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Post by lifan on May 16, 2006 11:48:38 GMT -5
UKfan and graceann, I think I should worry about me when I can write a whole essay on a 24 word exchange between 2 fictional characters.
The next to last episode is my favorite episode. It had many of my favorite scenes. The one where the King talked with MJH about their relationship with JG, both scenes where JG admitted to the King about her feelings for MJH and the archery scene where MJH said the same (yes, after he shot the last round) and then the king aimed the arrow at him, and he just bowed. SIGH.
There's also the speech that MJH made to the King to sacrifice himself so that JG can be the physician. It was quite a long speech, as you remember, as he told the king how it is his way of showing his love for JG. There's a funny photo in MJH's thread that som posted today that has to do with that scene. Go see;D
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Post by hanbok on May 20, 2006 22:46:15 GMT -5
Im watching DJG again. I went to the part when JG was abducted by the Queen's men so she could find out the cause of the Kings Illness. So many ups and downs on the way to King's recovery. A very excellent research by JG led to the discovery that a spring water's poison was the cause of Kings illness. I was in awe when the Queen asked JG whats the cause, why did you give that prescription and how to prevent future recurrence of the illness. The Queen is a better investigator than any of her internal affairs staff
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Post by djanggum on May 21, 2006 18:38:57 GMT -5
i kind of felt that the romance in the end was there to put a little extra thing to the drama. i mean, the whole conflict was mainly on JG's mother and Lady Han and the revenge plot, right? The romance was OK, but i felt it was kind of rushed...?
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Post by ukfan on May 22, 2006 9:47:18 GMT -5
i kind of felt that the romance in the end was there to put a little extra thing to the drama. i mean, the whole conflict was mainly on JG's mother and Lady Han and the revenge plot, right? The romance was OK, but i felt it was kind of rushed...? You have a very interesting point here djanggum, because when ever I re-watch DJG I nearly always finish soon after Lady Han Died (80% of the time) and for the the remaining 20%, I finished watching DJG after the scandals were exposed and JG was awarded by the King with the 3 wishes. ..Good point! ukfan
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Post by vivienquan on May 25, 2006 15:14:54 GMT -5
I would pick the most memorable one when Lady han died, actully, I can not bear to watch the following series after Lady han died, some of my friends have the same feeling as me. Another one I would count is when JG lost her tasting, Lady han accompanied her to go out and look for the doctor, when they were on a boat returning to the palace, Lady han finally said: I need you~~~
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Post by djanggum on May 25, 2006 15:42:24 GMT -5
the first scene that comes to my mind when I think daejanggum is when JG and Min run away. JG holds out her hand after Min confesses that he will sacrifice everything for her. I guess it's not a very important scene, but it's the first scene that comes to mind...
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Post by lifan on May 25, 2006 21:00:27 GMT -5
You mean, this scene? JG :For me, you must give up everything, does it matter? For me, you may become a peasant, does it matter? For me, the hand you use to write may have to use for digging, does it matter? From now on, we may have to eat roots to survive, all this, does it matter? MJH – it doesn’t matter, it really doesn’t matter. JG – but I'm the cause of all this. MJH – it’s because of you, that is why all of it doesn’t matter. It's very nice. Supportive guy, that MJH. I like the scene where JG went looking all over for MJH and when she finally found him, she asked him to run away with her and not to ask why. He replied that she doesn't need to tell him, he doesn't need to know why, he doesn't need to think about it. He will go.
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Post by djanggum on May 25, 2006 21:22:00 GMT -5
yes- that's the scene! i love Min.
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Post by graceann on Jun 11, 2006 6:38:46 GMT -5
my second entry for most memorable scenes in djg goes back when jang geum is still a kid, the time when there's muddy rain(?) i think that was the first instance where jang geum gave a solution to a problem in the palace, unexpectedly. that incident also gave way for jang geum to understand the reason why lady keeps on asking her a pot of water. and in return, when jang geum fully understood lady han's pot of water task, lady han started teaching jang geum, to quote lady han, "crude" method of cooking e.g. gathering 100 plant that can be used for cooking which prepared jang geum to be of course a top lady in the future. and if i remember correctly, this was also the first time, lady han and jang geum revealed something about their past. in short, the mud rain scene served as the key for jang geum to earn lady han's trust.
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Post by ukfan on Jun 14, 2006 17:00:35 GMT -5
Graceann, There is another scene that came to me just now...remember the sunset scene of Lady Han after she sent DJ to the temple to look after the Queen's nanny? Her facial expressions with the sunset as a backdrop said it all. No dialogue was necessary except for some flash backs... ukfan
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Post by graceann on Jun 15, 2006 7:41:27 GMT -5
ei ukfan, i'd be reminiscing about the scene you are talking about when you post it here. daori, please post it here. and also don't forget the scripts for the competition. so those who want to join can think of dialogues asap. hehehe. (i'm acting as a stressed judge right now!) ;D
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Post by valeoftears on Jun 16, 2006 3:12:08 GMT -5
djanggum, I thought that scene was symbolic too. Reaching out one's hand to someone who has made great sacrifices for you may seem natural to us nowadays, but how many ladies would initiate romantic handholds back then? =) I thought it emphasised the freedom that defined the true love between JG and MJH as well as their common ideals.
Another scene that just came to mind was the scene in which JG spoke up for the Chois when they were accused of poisoning the king - she wanted revenge on them, but she wanted justice for everyone. Subsequently, what stood out in my mind was the way she looked at Lady Choi who was desperately trying to defend herself during the trial. I think it was a mix of sympathy and great disappointment, because she had trusted that Lady Choi would really turn over a new leaf after kneeling at her mother's grave for the first time.
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Post by valeoftears on Jun 16, 2006 8:12:55 GMT -5
Oh yes - another scene that comes to mind is the intense moment after the trial, when Lady Choi hits out at JG but JG stops her by grabbing her arm. It really showed her powerlessness then - along with the fact that her position had been betrayed by someone who she thought was 'loyal' to her. She was still holding on very tightly to her illusion of power - as can bee seen from the way she vows to make life difficult for the Lady who had betrayed her once she regains her status. But as JG told her, all she had in those tightly clench fists of hers were the blood and tears of those who had died under her plotting, not the power that she desired.
It really moved me when JG told Lady Choi her belief that her love for Keum Young would make her no different from Lady Han and herself. JG did not really want as much of revenge as she wanted the truth to come to light and for those who had plotted against her loved ones to turn over a new leaf.
But the scenes that followed really had me crying for the Chois too. I think Lady Choi must have been thinking: I know that too - we are like you in every way, it's just that the world has not allowed me to be like you. So I did what the world forced me to - and did it to the fullest. Now everything has gone wrong all because of me - and you tell me that you know that we are like you in every way.
And there was the tortured expression on her face when she heard that KY was at the investigation department. She mumbled to herself that KY had done no wrong, but here we must remember that KY had actually been the mastermind behind the sulphur duck incident. When KY sat alone in the jail cell crying for Lady Choi after her suicide. It was just like what happened between Lady Han and JG.
When KY talked to JG for the last time, it was certain that KY was in a resigned sort of deep remorse at herself, for having let her life run the way it had. She could have done everything JG had done with all the talent that she had. When she was a little girl, the other young palace maids were jealous of her because she had everything. I could feel JG thinking of her childhood days as friends with KY as she watched KY walk out of the palace with nothing left - and great disappointment with herself added on top of that. JG had very mixed feelings. Both of them had entered the palace rather dislocated from the people around them. Both were sincerely working hard to become the Top Lady because of the wishes of their families.
Duk gu and his wife celebrated with the entire village after Lady Choi’s death – their joy could definitely be explained. But the fact that the scenes changed so abruptly from those concerning her death to noisy celebration highlighted the loneliness of the Chois – throughout their lives, no one could understand the darkness in their souls.
Eek.. sorry. I think I have gone a little overboard.
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Post by valeoftears on Jun 16, 2006 8:18:34 GMT -5
Oh no. I want to add that I have also struggled with a urge not to continue watching after Lady Han's death like many of you (which parallels the tiredness JG felt then). But it is always worth it to continue watching till the end - believe it or not, I also to it by telling myself I had to 'endure' everything with JG - couldn't leave her alone. The subsequent parts to the drama surface very important themes from the conflicts within the Medical division. And some very memorable scenes were the epitome of my admiration from JG - such as her wanting to give her life rather than be made to kill the King's son. And the scene in which she took care of the sick beggars' children when no one else wanted to, cradling them deep into the night.
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maedayeve
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Post by maedayeve on Jun 16, 2006 9:10:13 GMT -5
vale of tears, that was very thorough! wow! ;D
i do think that your analyses of those scenes in DJG would be impressive enough to turn it into a formal dissertation of DJG! How about that? A very scholarly paper on DJG and its lessons and impact on the lives of viewers.
let's just be careful that you don't get petitioned by the ministers to be exiled. ;D
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