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Post by DDucky on Aug 19, 2006 10:48:24 GMT -5
Where did I say I support his visit??? NO WHERE... Where did I tell you to "shut up" ? NO WHERE... Where did I support Japanese supremacy??? NO WHERE.... The fact that you didn't adress any of these points proves once again that you are the only racist hate monger here and that I am right in every respect... Its not just the liberals at fault here. It is also the fault of a failing republican administration. The Republican administration is not failing, it is just having a hard time repairing the damage caused by the 8 years of socialist style government that this country had to suffer through under Bill "The Commie" Clinton....
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Post by Tim on Aug 19, 2006 13:42:17 GMT -5
Where did I say I support his visit??? NO WHERE... Where did I tell you to "shut up" ? NO WHERE... Where did I support Japanese supremacy??? NO WHERE.... The fact that you didn't adress any of these points proves once again that you are the only racist hate monger here and that I am right in every respect... Its not just the liberals at fault here. It is also the fault of a failing republican administration. The Republican administration is not failing, it is just having a hard time repairing the damage caused by the 8 years of socialist style government that this country had to suffer through under Bill "The Commie" Clinton.... Oh yes, you do support his visits, otherwise, you would not defend Bush. Typical Republican crap. They always blame others (especially liberals), never thinking that they had made mistakes of their own. They never admit Bush has done anything wrong, and they think that Bush is the greatest thing ever. You are anti-China and pro-Japan supremacy. You never once defended China. You never once criticize Japan for visiting Yasukuni. You only show up to insult China and support Bush for supporting Koizumi.
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Post by JjJ on Aug 19, 2006 23:05:41 GMT -5
Japanese Hitler(s). Is Shinzo Abe the guy you're talking about? If so, I think Shinzo Abe is worse, because on Chinese news, Abe defended the war criminals more radically than Koizumi. Koizumi is just the current PM of Japan who thinks he's not worshipping criminals. Abe, however (at least according to Chinese news), is telling Chinese and Koreans to shut up and that the "Great" Japan liberated them from the Imperialists. (funny, considering most Japanese consider Imperialists to be great people) It might be him. As i said before,Koizumi is looking for someone like himself or worse to lead japan. The Republican administration is not failing, it is just having a hard time repairing the damage caused by the 8 years of socialist style government that this country had to suffer through under Bill "The Commie" Clinton.... You are in denial about what is truly happening with the failing Republican administration. Its not just the liberals at fault here. It is also the fault of a failing republican administration. The Republican administration is not failing, it is just having a hard time repairing the damage caused by the 8 years of socialist style government that this country had to suffer through under Bill "The Commie" Clinton....[/quote]
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Post by Tim on Aug 20, 2006 0:23:51 GMT -5
Well, even if it's Abe, I think we only have to endure one year of torture and then there will be a next election. I mean, Koizumi is retiring one year early, right? That's just like the pres. stepping down early and letting the vice pres. taking over. We can always pray for next year's election in Japan to be better. I heard that Japanese economists are starting to deal with China because Japan is dependant on Chinese trade. Sure, politically the two countries are enemies, but economically friends. There is even a party in Japan that promotes Chinese trades. Of course, these are all rumors, and I have yet found a link to support it.
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Post by Ducky on Aug 22, 2006 11:09:34 GMT -5
Oh yes, you do support his visits, otherwise, you would not defend Bush. Typical Republican crap. They always blame others (especially liberals), never thinking that they had made mistakes of their own. They never admit Bush has done anything wrong, and they think that Bush is the greatest thing ever. I don't care where that guy visits...He's never done anything bad to anybody.... Republicans don't make mistakes, they do a lot of stuff that is unpopular, but necessary for the well being of the country, and the democrats think that being the president is a popularity contest not a real job... I defend Bush because he is the best president since Reagan... I am not anti china or pro Japan....That would imply that I had feelings or cared for either of these countries....
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Post by Tim on Aug 22, 2006 13:14:46 GMT -5
Best president since Reagan? Ahahaahaha. LOL!! Sorry, that's just too funny, I couldn't contain myself. So why do you flame me for being anti-Bush? I am flaming Koizumi because I am against his policies. I can flame whoever I want.
You are pro-Japan because you support Koizumi's visits. You have no sympathy for all the Chinese/Koreans that were killed by the Japanese. Put it this way, would you care if Germans started to worship war criminals and Bush goes over to Germany and promote anti-Semetism?
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Post by skinz on Aug 22, 2006 13:17:10 GMT -5
Republicans don't make mistakes, they do a lot of stuff that is unpopular, but necessary for the well being of the country, and the democrats think that being the president is a popularity contest not a real job... I defend Bush because he is the best president since Reagan... Whether you want to believe it or not, his judgements (and the overall country also) were completely misguided because of rush assessments made by officials around him. The current problem have nothing to do with political gains (which too many democrat and republican supporters continue to miss because they're too busy playing tribal warfare), this is a problem that is global and will not be fixed whether one party have an advantage over the next.
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Post by DDucky on Aug 22, 2006 13:41:17 GMT -5
You are pro-Japan because you support Koizumi's visits. You have no sympathy for all the Chinese/Koreans that were killed by the Japanese. Put it this way, would you care if Germans started to worship war criminals and Bush goes over to Germany and promote anti-Semetism? You talk like the Chinese and Koreans are the only ones that have had problems with Japan.... If you studied history, Japan made an unprovoked attack on the US, and killed many innocent Americans.... So America kicked their a$$es back to the stoneage and just to make sure they knew we were serious we vaporized two of their cities and a few hundred thousand civilians..... We've gotten over what they did to us, and they've gotten over what we did to them.... Life goes on.....Living in the past won't help anything....
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Post by JjJ on Aug 22, 2006 20:20:56 GMT -5
I don't care where that guy visits...He's never done anything bad to anybody.... Yes he has.(Koizumi) Continue to support the take over of islands that do not belong to japan. Pissing off trading partners. Especially the US with the beef ban. Yasakuni shrine is designed to worship imperialism. It is not a shrine to remember the dead of ww2. But is designed to honor those imperialists. Republicans don't make mistakes, they do a lot of stuff that is unpopular, but necessary for the well being of the country, and the democrats think that being the president is a popularity contest not a real job... I defend Bush because he is the best president since Reagan... Yep your in denial. What if you were dragged in a war that was not necessary. Was made up to cause fear in the heart of the people. Just to make the President look tough. People were lied to. So far it cost the lives of over 2500 US troops. This big so called mistake. I don't care where that guy visits...He's never done anything bad to anybody.... You talk like the Chinese and Koreans are the only ones that have had problems with Japan.... If you studied history, Japan made an unprovoked attack on the US, and killed many innocent Americans.... So America kicked their a$$es back to the stoneage and just to make sure they knew we were serious we vaporized two of their cities and a few hundred thousand civilians..... We've gotten over what they did to us, and they've gotten over what we did to them.... Life goes on.....Living in the past won't help anything.... [/quote] Big difference Ducky,US Got its vengeance to retaliate on japan. Thats why the US can let things go. China and Korea have never got a chance to attack japan. What's worse is that japan is acting disrespectful. It continues to flaunt its imperialistism to this day.
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Post by Tim on Aug 22, 2006 23:39:15 GMT -5
I was looking up some scientific studies about using hydrogen power or solar power to one day fuel our machines and vehicles. Right now, all the world powers are killing each other to obtain it. Bush could have used all the money he wasted on Iraq stealing other people's oil to fund researches on solar power or hydrogen fuel cells. That way, we can have a better future in which we don't need to be dependent on oil. But does he do that? Nope, he tells his army to massacre Iraqis and take their oil instead. I call that a HUGE mistake.
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Post by Ducky on Aug 23, 2006 10:05:20 GMT -5
I was looking up some scientific studies about using hydrogen power or solar power to one day fuel our machines and vehicles. Right now, all the world powers are killing each other to obtain it. Bush could have used all the money he wasted on Iraq stealing other people's oil to fund researches on solar power or hydrogen fuel cells. That way, we can have a better future in which we don't need to be dependent on oil. But does he do that? Nope, he tells his army to massacre Iraqis and take their oil instead. I call that a HUGE mistake. If we were taking oil from iraq, the cost of gas in the US wouldn't be over $3.00 a gallon... The war in Iraq is to make it a Democracy which will make the world a safer place for everyone, and if you can't see that, then it proves that you have been brain washed by the socialist left wing radicals who control the news media...... It is not the Government's responsibility to fund foolish research on solar and wind power...that would be a huge waste of my hard earned tax dollars...If the tree huggers and other nutso groups want to explore solar and wind power, let them fund it themselves...If they had to go out and ask people to donate money for this research, they would find out that 99.9% of American's don't want it because it is useless and a huge waste of money.... Yes he has.(Koizumi) Continue to support the take over of islands that do not belong to japan. Pissing off trading partners. Especially the US with the beef ban. Yasakuni shrine is designed to worship imperialism. It is not a shrine to remember the dead of ww2. But is designed to honor those imperialists. The beef ban was a joke and didn't hurt this country at all..... If the shrine is really as big a problem as you say it is, they would've taken it down a long time ago.... The fact that it is still standing shows that no one besides you yhas a problem with it....
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Post by Tim on Aug 23, 2006 13:05:07 GMT -5
I guess Bush has a right to invade Iraq then. I guess it's ok for him to kill so many Iraqis. You know, (although I do believe Saddam is evil) before Saddam fell, Iraq was ruled by a dictator. After Saddam fell, Iraq is still in turmoil, and in addition, terrorists groups started spring up like crazy throughout the country because no evil dictator can force them down. What good did that do? And what about Bush's idea that there were "nuclear" weapons in Iraq?
Apparently, Ducky nothing about East Asian news. China and Korea BOTH protested vehemently against the Yasukuni shrine. Heck, in Korea, they even burn Japanese flags and cut the head off of a Koizumi poster. And I thought you don't care about Japan? If that's the case, why did you just defend the Japanese right now?
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Post by DDucky on Aug 23, 2006 13:18:45 GMT -5
Apparently, Ducky nothing about East Asian news. China and Korea BOTH protested vehemently against the Yasukuni shrine. Heck, in Korea, they even burn Japanese flags and cut the head off of a Koizumi poster. And I thought you don't care about Japan? If that's the case, why did you just defend the Japanese right now? OK, educate me.... What year was this shrine built??? Who built it??? Wht don't they just take it down if it is such a bad thing?
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Post by skinz on Aug 23, 2006 15:22:16 GMT -5
Apparently, Ducky nothing about East Asian news. China and Korea BOTH protested vehemently against the Yasukuni shrine. Heck, in Korea, they even burn Japanese flags and cut the head off of a Koizumi poster. And I thought you don't care about Japan? If that's the case, why did you just defend the Japanese right now? OK, educate me.... What year was this shrine built??? Who built it??? Wht don't they just take it down if it is such a bad thing? I know this was for Tim but I can't pass up something that I know about. The Shrine was built in late 19 century during the Meiji period, It was for the purpose to remember the Boshin War. However, later on it became the national shrine to remember all military officers that died in war time and the national Shinto shrine during Emperor Hirohito rise. After WW2, it became officially a religious institution under the Shinto religion. The shrine consist of people that died from the Boshin War until 1950 (??) meaning any military officer that have died after WW2 is not on the list because there is no Japanese army, The shrine actually holds names of Koreans and Taiwanese officers who were under Japanese services in WW2. The problem consist of war criminials that caused the deaths of hundred of thousands of people are written on the list to be prayed to. Technically, the shrine is not the problem because it have nothing to do with WW2 and was built way before the conflict, its the moral decision that was acted out when the names were put in. While Japan could make a case that the shrine itself is a religious place that contains no boundaries on who was right or wrong and that all are even, it continously dismisses victims demand to remove the names and show some recognition on their crimes.
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Post by JjJ on Aug 23, 2006 19:13:00 GMT -5
The war in Iraq is to make it a Democracy which will make the world a safer place for everyone, and if you can't see that, then it proves that you have been brain washed by the socialist left wing radicals who control the news media...... My god you actually still believe Bush's lies? If it were about "Democracy" and about "make the world a safer place for everyone". Then where are all the WMD that Bush promised to find? Also the republicans control the media. If you speak the truth, you get in trouble. The US troops are also not allowed to say what's on their mind about the war. The beef ban was a joke and didn't hurt this country at all.....If the shrine is really as big a problem as you say it is, they would've taken it down a long time ago.... The fact that it is still standing shows that no one besides you yhas a problem with it.... You kidding me? US exports on beef were: Of the total U.S. beef production in 2003 -- an estimated 26.30 billion pounds valued at $27 billion (2002 figure, the latest available) -- 2.58 billion pounds worth an estimated $3.266 billion was exported, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/beef4804.cfmThey would not take the shrine down. Because japan cares too much about its pride. OK, educate me.... What year was this shrine built??? Who built it??? Wht don't they just take it down if it is such a bad thing? {What year was this shrine built???} {Who built it???} Originally constructed in june of 1869 ordered by meiji emperor. orginal name was called T?ky? Sh?konsha. later the shrine was renamed Yasukuni Jinja in 1879 and elevated to become the primary national shrine for commemoration of Japan's war dead. {Wht don't they just take it down if it is such a bad thing? } Because it represent the country's Imperialism and glorifies and honors the dead who fought for the emperor. Pride is also a major contributing factor. here is official site. Beware, it may be biased www.yasukuni.or.jp/english/Technically, the shrine is not the problem because it have nothing to do with WW2 and was built way before the conflict, its the moral decision that was acted out when the names were put in. While Japan could make a case that the shrine itself is a religious place that contains no boundaries on who was right or wrong and that all are even, it continously dismisses victims demand to remove the names and show some recognition on their crimes. Actually it is a problem. Originally it had good intentions. But the Meiji Emperor screwed things up by changing the name and turning it into a war shrine. (remember it was originally called happy shrine) Then later on adding war criminals to it. The problem is made worse, when You have a defiant PM visiting the shrine on official duty. Disregarding pleading people from other countries to stop. Also the Japanese constitution has a clause that stipulates a separation of government and religious activities. Koizumi continues to violate this clause. Thereby offend war victims and their families.
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