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Post by fan on Oct 19, 2006 19:13:59 GMT -5
But you have to dig through pages and pages of long and endless discussions of "regulars" [89 pages and going]. You're better off clicking on the youtube links above for clips of episodes 1-100. That is, if you understand Korean. Otherwise, the summaries above pretty much capture the drama's direction. Reading summaries is fine to get a sense of where the drama is headed...but more enjoyable to just watch whatever episode you're at [episode 61 tonight in NY/NJ area].
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Post by fan2 on Oct 19, 2006 19:23:20 GMT -5
Soompi's server gets clogged more often than not, so good luck. Remember, Soompi doesn't just cover K-dramas, it covers a multitude [entertainment news, music, news, TV/film, etc.].
There are several here who post on Soompi as well as on KBFD and the Korean drama network as well.
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Post by fan on Oct 20, 2006 22:08:09 GMT -5
Took 94 episodes of cleaning/polishing for GH to learn how to learn a bike and start delivering milk [gas station side job after]: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyMwhyvSEOESide note: it's GH singing drama theme song UG finally lets out his feelings for YJ: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcw-usDKkdAUp to episode 109 quick recaps: HS and Grandpa marry YJ and UG families oppose marriage plans; YJ fakes pregnancy; marriage talks takes place [early wedding for YJ and UG foreseen] YH cannot find a job; GH accepts equivalent of $30k from YH's mother [she pretends to erase all her feelings for YH] so father will unblock prospects; GH doesn't spend money YH finds out; gets together with GH [short-lived separation]; YH tells SH to move on [lost hope for SH]; YH borrows money from friend to return money to his family, see preview: img.kbs.co.kr/cms/drama/soonjung/im...review_main.swf YH and GH marriage may be towards last 10 episodes?
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Post by Soju on Oct 22, 2006 21:26:09 GMT -5
I keep up with the 'Pure 19' thread on Soompi, and enjoy the "endless discussions" there as much as I do the ones here. Their server problems are an issue (they are down as I write this), but the problems are less than they used to be.
Some things about posts in this thread, by your humble Moderator:
What's with all the double-posting? Try to say what you have to say. If you decide to add something a few minutes later, please register, and you can edit your message at any time.
And please, no posts stating that you agree with what you just posted twenty minutes before. That's just tacky. Just establish an Identity and stick with it, even if it's as a guest. There's no reason to cofuse people about who they're talking with.
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Post by Julie on Oct 24, 2006 21:11:56 GMT -5
???does gukwa leave 2 go 2 china?? can someone pleaz tell me?!? im desperate!!!
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Post by Sam on Oct 25, 2006 10:19:43 GMT -5
Someone asked about the abuse that Gukhwa goes through. I think its more mental and verbal. Yoonho's mom throws peppers at Gukhwa around Episode 68 or so. Then she slaps her in the office, then Yoonho comes in and asks whats going on, THEN Yoonho's sister fights with Gukhwa. Its name calling. Yoonho's sister and mom really bother Gukhwa, the believe that she is the reason why Yoonho isnt marrying Shinyeong. But its just that Yoonho cant love Shinyeong, just likes her as a friend. He's starting to have feelings for Gukhwa.
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Post by luvsterriers on Oct 25, 2006 12:37:10 GMT -5
I have to agree with Sam. The hatred, meanness and cruelty that Gukhwa gets starting about episode 68 is terrible. I feel bad for her. I saw preview for tonight's episode. I'm in Virginia, and we are on Episode 68 tonight. I was in Gukhwa's position at one time. Someone just gives you a hard time and blames you for certain things, and just torment you to no end, while you didnt do nothing. Yep, someone at work did that to me. But I stood up for myself and told this person back off. I hope Gukhwa does defend herself. Who knows maybe Yoonho will defend for her. Yoonho is starting to have deep feelings for Gukhwa, but Gukhwa thinks he just pities her. But this man actually cares for her! Its sweet. He doesnt want to marry Shinyeong, because he doesnt love her. I agree with him. Why marry someone you dont love? His parents are furious that he doesnt want to marry her. Being half korean, I know that some Korean parents force their kids to marry. But to me you marry the person you love, your parents cant FORCE you to love someone. Thats what Yoonho tells his parents. His mom and sister are evil towards Gukhwa. She may not be rich, but I think she's got a good caring heart.
Anna
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Post by BAE on Oct 25, 2006 16:30:08 GMT -5
Someone asked about the abuse that Gukhwa goes through. I think its more mental and verbal. Yoonho's mom throws peppers at Gukhwa around Episode 68 or so. Then she slaps her in the office, then Yoonho comes in and asks whats going on, THEN Yoonho's sister fights with Gukhwa. Its name calling. Yoonho's sister and mom really bother Gukhwa, the believe that she is the reason why Yoonho isnt marrying Shinyeong. But its just that Yoonho cant love Shinyeong, just likes her as a friend. He's starting to have feelings for Gukhwa. Wouldn't Yun-jeong's so-called feelings of hatred be more related to her liking Ug-yeong more than protecting her brother? That's what I think. She likes Ug-yeong who in turn had/has strong feeligns for Guk-hwa, who kind of liked him back. I bet Yun-jeong's more angry with Guk-hwa for ruining her chances at being with Ug-yeong.
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Post by Julie on Oct 25, 2006 20:05:23 GMT -5
I hate Yun hu's family now They r soooo mean!!
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Post by luvsterriers on Oct 26, 2006 7:23:34 GMT -5
Yes thats true Bae. Yun-jeong likes Ug-yeong alot, but he does like Guk-hwa. I just cant stand Yun hu's family. Even his dad is turning out to be a jerk. He's always yelling, and that actor also was constantly yelling in Farewell To Tears. Yun hu's parents are so mad at Yun hu because he doesnt love Shin yeong because they been friends for so long. But yet his parents are forcing him to marry her forcing him to change his feelings? See to me thats just rude and wrong. How can you force someone to love someone? He wont be happy in this marriage. Marriage should be love. Once you get to end of Episode 68 you will HATE Yun hu's mom and sister even more! But Guk hwa is supposed to tell Yun hu's sister off by saying "Dont look down me because you are rich." I think Yun hu is going to defend Guk hwa at all costs because he cares for her. At first I thought Yun hu was a jerk, but ever since Guk hwa is there, he has kinda changed. Now Yun hu's oldest sister is a kind woman, who doesnt look down others. She married a man she loves, although he's not rich. The mom and youngest sister think that being rich is high and mighty. I hope the mom and younger sister either change their attitude or Yun hu tells them to take a hike. Even Shin Yeong towards Episode 68 is turning out to be rude towards Guk hwa. But she doesnt know what to believe. She literally tells Gukhwa (You are not that great of a person for a relationship to have problems..something along those lines) I was like gee girl stop looking down on her. But then again she's just mad at Yunhu for calling off the wedding. She probably knows that Yunhu has feelings for Gukhwa.
Anna
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Post by loving1979 on Nov 1, 2006 8:29:14 GMT -5
Gukhwa, is she the lost twin and how can that be.
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Post by soapygrams on Nov 1, 2006 13:00:19 GMT -5
Gukhwa, is she the lost twin and how can that be. :oWhat lost twin -- am I reading the wrong thread? What did I miss? Who has a twin that's missing? Boy am I confused!
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Post by BAE on Nov 2, 2006 18:24:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm with Soapy.... It sounds like GH's the long lost twin of the Park family....... But what's going on?
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Post by ginnycat5 on Nov 3, 2006 21:05:42 GMT -5
BAE, who mentioned a long-lost twin? Help.....
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Post by Dsatki on Nov 4, 2006 3:14:46 GMT -5
I may have gotten a little more than carried away with this drama... The slow pace is punctured by bursts and fits from the elders [mothers, especially] and the grandpa's dalliance, with only the uncle providing an even, humorous delivery. Unlike 'Lost in Translation' where the slow pace generates quiet romantic tension, subtle/poignant development [into romance] and closure for the two main characters, this drama has more noisy muddles than anyone can foresee that the writer incorporates for her sake as a "drama" writer, and predictably for TV ratings. There are so many characters and storylines running parallel that even with only one-third remaining of the 150 or so episodes, it still seems like a contest within a contest of team pairings, rather than a progression of acting, emotions [or lack thereof], and development of characters. For one thing, Gukhwa [presumably the lead and drama namesake], still is/on to another round of low-wage, manual labor. The constant grating for empathy for Gukhwa is rather exhausting, as well as watching the endless polishing of walls, floors, cans, cars...Is there anything left in Seoul for Gukhwa to polish? Bringing turmoil to spice up the already turmoil-laden, well-spiced Gukhwa and Yunhu pairing is double jeopardy: it is subverts the tender and poignant scenes, sabotages the already-established characters/developed storyline and relationship inroads, as well as the viewing/viewer pleasure the writer has finally carved on 100 episodes leading to "the kiss." It is hard to pin this drama's genre, as it is intrinsically Korean, and or Asian [as many of the mores and cultural juxtapositions are familiar to anyone with Asian ancestry]. It doesn't have a novel or edgy texture, or smart dialogues like 'Northern Exposure' [late 80s/early 90s sitcom entirely shot in Alaska, written by two Yale writing partners] except for snippets of righteousness and unconditional love. This drama however, has some shades of 'Dawson's Creek' with the triangles, but lacks its depth [both in soliloquy and emphatic dialogues] as well as its multi-dimensional consortium of writers. True to K-drama form, this drama relies on ordinary sentiments. Thus, moments and characters with great potential to transcend ordinariness, such as Gukhwa's travails to succeed, Yunhu's unconditional love, Grandpa's June-December romance, and Gwangman turning into a homemaker, are instead grounded in jarring transitions to be lumped into one ordinary and perhaps, predictable finale on or shortly before episode 150. As much fun to watch characters that are unreasonable, [and I hate to say] bumbling, fickle semi-idiots for most of 106 episodes, it is sad to see the potential and or at least the pretense of this drama to be something more than just the usual 30-minute, Monday-Friday K-drama. It's funny -- the flaws you see in this drama seem to be exactly the reasons it rivets me. Although I agree that I've had my fill of Gukhwa scrubbing -- I find the characters very well developed and the acting more than credible. Clever dialogue is not my forte - I'd much rather forfeit the slick American screenwriting in Northern Exposure for the simplicity and more realistic mayhem of real family life as depicted in this drama. The cultural nuances sometimes leave me gaping, but I don't think I will ever forget the wonderful portrayal of W's heartache over Gukhwa. As an American, I am dumbfounded by whatever it is that makes Gukhwa unacceptable to the Hong's as a daughter-in-law. I hated to see that relationship change but Yunhu has won me over. I'm enjoying this thoroughly!
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