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Aug 12, 2005 15:13:05 GMT -5
Post by Soju on Aug 12, 2005 15:13:05 GMT -5
As he said, "If I loved her any less, I couldn't let her go."
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sandy
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Aug 12, 2005 23:01:10 GMT -5
Post by sandy on Aug 12, 2005 23:01:10 GMT -5
The episodes this past week have been real tear-jerkers. Get out the Kleenex! Now that In-young has her own apartment and her life back, Ki-joon wants to come around. Why didn't he just move into the apartment with his wife, telling his mother to mind her own business? I'm sure In-young would have become pregnant being out of that house. Ki-joon let In-young go because he still must cater to his controlling mother.
Just as In-young starts her own life, getting a job and probably forming a relationship with Jae-min, Ki-joon will keep returning to her, making her upset and feeling guilty that she didn't spend a life-time trying to have a child.
Hee-joo's back in the scene, so let's see if Ki-joon will marry her out of loneliness and desperation to produce a grandchild for his mother. I doubt if Hee-joo will cater to SM to become a housewife and mother.
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Raven
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Aug 13, 2005 0:44:55 GMT -5
Post by Raven on Aug 13, 2005 0:44:55 GMT -5
;DI bet he will marry Hee-joo eventually he is that type of person, just remember who his mom is. In-young seems sad but relived at the same time, It was so exhausting seeing her there with SM. I agree with u that he should have left out of there a long time ago. Maybe then she would have been less stress out and more relax and they would have had the baby by now. Ki-joon Get a back bone for god sake ;D
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Aug 13, 2005 11:35:49 GMT -5
Post by BAE on Aug 13, 2005 11:35:49 GMT -5
Can someone give me a recap of what happened in yesterday's episode?
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Aug 13, 2005 14:43:17 GMT -5
Post by zazu on Aug 13, 2005 14:43:17 GMT -5
Can someone give me a recap of what happened in yesterday's episode? Hope I remember it............ In-chul goes grocery shopping and buys food to take to In-young. He gets to the apartment and they unpacking the goodies when Sun-mi come to visit and wants to know what's up. IC is going to cook dinner for them spaghetti. While they're getting things ready the Screech calls IY and wants to meet. IY tells them to start cooking and she'll be back soon. Screech out of guilt (really is worried her friends will think badly of her for kicking her DIL out) tries to give IY money to live on, not knowing her son bought IY her apartment. IY refuses the money but Screech keeps pushing the issue. Next we see IY calling KJ, he's happy she makes a move to contact him not knowing why. They meet, she gives him the money to return, saying the aprtment is enough and she didn't tell Screech about the apartment figuring he hadn't and she didn't want to create waves. He gets all kinds of pushy and tells her to keep it, but she refuses. Then he asks if she ate, did she want to go eat. She explains that dinner is being cooked by IC and SM is at her aprtment waiting for her return. He asks to join them and IY doesn't say a thing, so he says, "Guess not" Next we see IY sitting in a park thinking about all that has happened and reliving memories as well. Several hours later she returns to the apartment and is quized about what Screech wanted. She says she'll talk about it later but for now would they leave she wanted to be alone. They push for the info, she starts to get a litle tiffed and tell them to leave NOW. IC comes home and tells Mrs.Hen to go see IY because something happened and she ain't spilling the beans. Next day IY is out shopping around and Mrs. Hen calls her on the cell, wants to come over to see her. She say she's not home but in the neighboorhood and will stop by. She gets there and tells what happened, aunt is mad she didn't take the money after all that family put her thru. She says she doesn't need/want it. She'll go back to work and take care of herself. They have dinner and then leaves to go home. Father is walking her to the bus stop and waits with her and says he knows she'll get thru all this trouble. She getting on the bus as IC is getting off, they say goodbyes and take cares....end of scene. meanwhile......Screech mom brings her son'e laundry into his room, sees the wedding picture, calls housekeeper to come take it down and put it in the basement. Her sister comes in and says that KJ should be the one to do that and screech and her go at it,,,,,blah, blah, blah. KJ comes home sees the picture gone and wakes screech up to find out why. Screech is blah, blah, blah get over her, blah blah, blah I burnt it. Meanwhile IY is having coffee with her old boss, I guess trying to get her job back. She has no openings but will get word out that IY is looking. Not to worry someone will snatch her up with her talents. Across town Sun-mi is spilling the beans about IY's breakup to the cafe owner and his friend (forgot the name) whose wife died. Next scene we see IY leaving the cafe where she met her boss and runs into KJ's old girfriend (if looks could kill) fade out..........stay tuned for the on going saga.
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Hannah
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Aug 13, 2005 18:26:09 GMT -5
Post by Hannah on Aug 13, 2005 18:26:09 GMT -5
In young is really getting on my nerves. she really needs to learn how to stand up for herself. These female passive roles are really something. She seems so unsympathetic towards kijoon, and when she asked for the divorce, even though she seemed sad, i think that was unfair of her to do to kijoon, it's all her fault. she should have listened to her husband in the first place when he said they should move out.
Poor kijoon, he's such a sensitive good guy, and inyoung does not appreciate him enough.
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sandy
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Aug 13, 2005 22:53:12 GMT -5
Post by sandy on Aug 13, 2005 22:53:12 GMT -5
In-young has been a loving wife and a very patient DIL to SM. In-young decided to divorce Ki-joon because she knew that their relationship would never grow because of his mother. SM is the one who destroyed their marriage, but Ki-joon is speechless when it comes to dealing with his mother. Even if they had moved out, In-young probably knew that Ki-joon would still be attached to his mothers' apron strings.
In-young's passivity was really an attempt to make peace at that crazy house. For her own sanity, she left.
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Aug 15, 2005 16:32:46 GMT -5
Post by Lucy on Aug 15, 2005 16:32:46 GMT -5
I was thinking about that reasoning of Ki-joon's, "If I loved her any less I couldn't let her go." Sounds nice and seems to make sense when you remember how desperate she was to get out of that house, but honestly, I don't think I'd want someone to love me so much he'd let me leave--isn't it better to have someone who loves you so much he'll make it so that you can STAY? If he loved her that much, there was a lot more he could have done all through the marriage. It's like he's saying he knows he's weak and can't stand up to his mother, so his only option left is to let In-young go. Congratulations, champ! Husband of the year you are not.
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Aug 15, 2005 18:53:33 GMT -5
Post by Lovely on Aug 15, 2005 18:53:33 GMT -5
I felt bad for Ki-joon as he watched In-young walk away from him after telling him, "We have to go thru with our decision." Ki-joon just stood there as tears rolled down his face. This is like the first time I feel bad for this guy.
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sandy
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Aug 15, 2005 22:09:10 GMT -5
Post by sandy on Aug 15, 2005 22:09:10 GMT -5
It was sad to see Ki-joon parting in tears, but even more to see In-young getting drunk with Sun-mi, throwing up, then crying. I think most of us just wonder why he didn't move out with IY a long time ago. Tonight, SM was fussing over making his bed, then opens his desk for some scissors. When she finds that IY didn't take the money she offered her, she's furious. Imagine this woman meddling in the lives of 2 adults, having no respect for their privacy and relationship. She just expects her son to sweep IY away as though she was nothing more than a casual relationship.
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Aug 16, 2005 6:56:38 GMT -5
Post by toranaga on Aug 16, 2005 6:56:38 GMT -5
everyone is so quick to condemn KI-JOON but at every turn he told IN-YOUNG to do what she wanted and not listen too his mother,he asked her three times to move out,she said no,he continuously told her to stop the fertility treatments but she did not.even though SM was a definite factor in all the went on,IN-YOUNG never believed her husband was okay waiting for a child. HOW could she,when she would go to the gym he was playing so happily with the kids and with his baby cousin BO-BAE at home.she was in an untenable situation,eventually ki-joon would have become anxious for a child as well.
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Aug 16, 2005 9:32:09 GMT -5
Post by BAE on Aug 16, 2005 9:32:09 GMT -5
everyone is so quick to condemn KI-JOON but at every turn he told IN-YOUNG to do what she wanted and not listen too his mother,he asked her three times to move out,she said no,he continuously told her to stop the fertility treatments but she did not.even though SM was a definite factor in all the went on,IN-YOUNG never believed her husband was okay waiting for a child. HOW could she,when she would go to the gym he was playing so happily with the kids and with his baby cousin BO-BAE at home.she was in an untenable situation,eventually ki-joon would have become anxious for a child as well. 1. thanks to zazu for the fill-in 2. I couldn't have said this better myself, toranaga. I thought i was the only one on this board who supported KJ. O well, my only wish is for him to get together with HJ. She seems to have reformed a bit, from what i can make out on the threads. So, maybe he'll find happiness with her?
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Aug 16, 2005 10:50:44 GMT -5
Post by Lucy on Aug 16, 2005 10:50:44 GMT -5
How is Ki-joon's saying that In-young should not listen to his mother "supporting" her? That's like throwing her to the wolves! That mother is a force of nature, and if she didn't do what the woman said, she would have been scolding and berating In-young 24 hours a day. The only solution was to move out, and In-young was wrong not to take him up on it, but for the rest of it, Ki-joon should have made more effort to change the dynamic, to talk to his mother about how unreasonable she was being.
On the other hand, realistically, she doesn't listen no matter who says what (it strikes me that Hee-joo was the only one who could get away with voicing a dissenting opinion). She always changes the topic so that it's about how she feels and not what is right or the other person's point of view. Thus, not wanting to have your body invaded for going on the third year becomes "just try it one more time . . . how can you be so selfish?" OK, she's impossible to talk to. But no one ever really tries to contradict her. If Ki-joon had tried that and stuck to it, he could have made In-young's life easier. But just telling In-young she's free to refuse his mother, when there is no earthly way to refuse the woman, is like washing his hands of the matter. Not helpful.
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Aug 16, 2005 13:17:02 GMT -5
Post by Catalpaunlogged on Aug 16, 2005 13:17:02 GMT -5
Yes, Lucy, I totally agree with you! He was ducking the issue and what he might have done to make things better by asking her to do the impossible.
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Aug 20, 2005 12:32:51 GMT -5
Post by Hannah on Aug 20, 2005 12:32:51 GMT -5
The point is is that Inyoung too readily dismissed her marriage with Kijoon without even thinking about what it would do to kijoon. Everyone is saying how they feel bad for inyoung and how it's great she left him, but marriage is not something that you just walk out of. it's a long lifetime lasting commitment.
I agree with the person who was saying, that Kijoon did tell her many times to move out, but Inyoung kept saying no, lets stay, so in reality, inyoung was the one that was bringing the mess on herself. How is kijoon being passivie when he was the one that wanted to move out from the begining?
In young should have listened to her husband, and the fact that she just left him because of the mother, shows me that her priorities are about what his mom thinks way above what her husband thinks. Therefore i've come to the conclusion that she dont deserve the guy.
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