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Post by kwoonie on Jan 25, 2006 21:24:40 GMT -5
Hi florel.. Actually The Land (Toji) is being aired in Malaysia currently and is now already at Episode 40. Unfortunately, I only got to watch the first 2 episodes as the broadcast time clashes with my working hours. By the time I get home, it's over. My VCR has gone to "VCR heaven" a few years back - so I'm not able to record it. ;D
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Post by florel on Jan 27, 2006 20:04:19 GMT -5
Yeah, both Choi Jae-sung and Chae Shi-ra, it seems, played 'good' guys back then.  Yeah, Moreshige, they were good hero and heroine in that old drama. Recently they played evil or negative supporting figures. It signifies that they get old. It's sad. But at the same time they have grown into "good actors". Koonie, I'm sorry for your VCR gone to the heaven. Oh, so "Toji" is airing in Malaysia. I wish that you would be able to view more Korean historical dramas. There are many good productions ! And I also wish Korea and Koreans would have more interest in history and culture of Malaysia and of other Asian countries. China and Japan are not unique Asians but, alas, many Koreans are only interested in them. TV dramas are excellent vehicle for cultural exchanges. |
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Post by florel on Jan 27, 2006 20:20:20 GMT -5
29) Dazzling Dawn (Chanranhan Yeomyung, KBS, 1995-1996)
- producer : Yi Nok-Young
- writer : Shin Bong-Seung
- original novel : Shin Bong-Seung, "Chanranhan Yeomyung" (published in 1994)
- Late 19th century ?
- I have no idea of storyline and characters of this drama. Possibly about the reformists in late 19th century Chosun ? Just found that it starred Kim Gap-Su (CCH in "AOW), Ha Hui-Ra, Byon Hui-Bong, Yi Jeong-Gil, Yi Min-Wu (Chung Kyun in "AOW"). Does anyone know about this drama ? Which roles did they play ?
30) Cho Kwang-Jo (KBS, 1996)
- producer : Uhm Ki-Baek
- writer : Chung Ha-Yeon
- About Cho Gwang-Cho (1482-1519), confucian reformist under the reign of King Jung-jong (1506-1544).
- I heard that Yu Dong-Geun (King Taejong in "Tears of the dragon") was starred. Which role did he play ? Cho Kwang-Jo or King Jung-jong ?
- I was informed about this drama last year in JP's Korean historical drama home page. Also about "Chang Nok-Su" and "Suh Gung (West Palace)". And I heard about "Mu In Shi Dae (AOW)" in this Chicago forum and started watching it on KBS site. It's funny. After 10 years of rupture I rediscovered Korean dramas in American web sites. ;D
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Post by ohdarlin on Jan 28, 2006 0:22:21 GMT -5
i think i'm very crazy over the drama of lady hyegyong, all me to post my review here. It¡¯s a bit very long¡ The drama begins somewhere before the time when Princess Hwap¡¯yong (Hwap¡¯yong Ongju ºÍƽ¹«Ö÷) died of childbirth and ends with Prince Sado (Sado Seja ˼µ¿ÊÀ×Ó) dying in the rice chest. The events are mostly authentic; some lines of speech are even exactly the same with that in Lady Hyegyong¡¯s memories (Memories of a Korean Queen: Lady Hyegyong), all except for the part about Princess Hwawan (Hwawan Ongju ºÍ»º¹«Ö÷). In the drama, Princess Hwawan is said to be secretly in love with Prince Sado (She once asked (hint) him ¡°there is a person whom I¡¯m deeply admired with. But I know clearly that I can never be with him in this life. What should I do?¡±), thus doing her best to help him, and enjoyed a cordial relationship with *Lady Hyegyong. However, the actual character of Princess Hwawan totally differs. According to Lady Hyegyong¡¯s biographical narratives, Princess Hwawan is portrayed as a capricious, power-hungry, domineering and ignorant woman. Though she did helped Prince Sado, coming to his rescue during many perilous situations, and even mad it possible to obtain royal permission for the Prince¡¯s trip to Onyang, she did these only under the pressure of Prince Sado¡¯s threats. After Sado¡¯s death, being the apple of her father, King Yongjo¡¯s (Ó¢×æ´óÍõ) eyes, she wielded great power. Together with her adopted son, Chong Hugyom (Ö£ºñÇ«), she planned evil plots to get rid of and harm people in order to be the sole object of her father¡¯s affection. She estranged King Chongjo (Õý×æ´óÍõ), then the Grand Heir, with his Queen, alienate him form Lady Hyegyong and harm the Hong Family (Lady Hyegyong¡¯s family), which is one of the factors leading to the fall of the Hong family. In her memories, Lady Hygeyong referred to Princess Hwawan as Madam Chong, which is indicating a person of unimportance and of a **lower status. This clearly shows Lady Hyegyong¡¯s resentment towards her. Lady Hyegyong says in her memories ¡° There are 2 versions of the incident (Sado incident) of that year (1762). Both are equally narrow, one sided and untrue one is that His Majesty¡¯s (King Yongjo) decisions was noble and just, one to be uphold as estimable to Heaven and Earth¡In short, Prince Sado is turned into an unfilial person and a criminal¡The other version is that, though Prince Sado had no illness, His Majesty listened to slanders and committed that terribly excessive act (imprisoning Sado into the rice chest).¡± This drama is more inclined to the second version, as Prince Sado¡¯s illness seemed to be deliberately avoided. For example, his obsession with Pingae (Park Kyongbin ÆÓ¾°æÉ), one of his secondary consorts, is omitted, as well as his phobia on clothes. His madness is totally not talked about. In addition, the drama portrays him as enjoying an intimate relationship with Lady Hyegyong, he loved and cared about her. But the truth is, he never really cared about her, as well as his other secondary consorts because of his illness. Lady Hyegyong¡¯s memories says ¡°he has not being talking to me in a friendly and intimate manner for several years.¡± *The title ¡°Hyegyong (»ÝÇì)¡±is given to her after the death of Prince Sado. Her official status is the Crown Princess Consort of Crown Prince Sado. During King Chongjo¡¯s reign, her status was upgrade to ¡°Hyegyong-gung (»ÝÇ칬)¡±. She was posthumously given the title ¡°Queen Kyongui (Kyonggui Wanghu ¾´Ü²Íõºó)¡± during King Kongjo¡¯s (¸ß×Ú) reign. **In 1778, under official pressure, King Chongjo stripped her of her royal title and the privileges associated with it and banish her to Kanghwa Island (½»ªµº). Postscript Personally, I feel that the beginning of the drama is somehow too exaggerated. By saying this, I¡¯m referring to the actor and actress. At the time of filming (year 2001), Hong Rina is 33 and Eim Ho 30. Despite this, they are supposed to act as 13-year-old Lady Hyegyong and Prince Sado. Frankly speaking, no matter of their makeup, this is impossible and they do not look the least bit like teenagers. Eim Ho¡¯s face is even ¡°decorated¡± with beards. Nevertheless, this drama is certainly worth watching. You must watch it if you are a fan of Hong Rin. Her exceptionally acting skills is highly demonstrated in the drama. And she¡¯s really very charming in traditional Korean costume, her beauty can be compared to that of any Miss Universe/International/Korea etc. (I¡¯m not exaggerating the facts!) groups.msn.com/6F2002/freewallpaper.msnwthis is a photo album where i have arranger all the photos of the characters in the drama nad added in description. |
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Post by JP Paulus on Jan 28, 2006 22:11:02 GMT -5
30) Cho Kwang-Jo (KBS, 1996)
- producer : Uhm Ki-Baek
- writer : Chung Ha-Yeon
- About Cho Gwang-Cho (1482-1519), confucian reformist under the reign of King Jung-jong (1506-1544).
- I heard that Yu Dong-Geun (King Taejong in "Tears of the dragon") was starred. Which role did he play ? Cho Kwang-Jo or King Jung-jong ?
- I was informed about this drama last year in JP's Korean historical drama home page. Also about "Chang Nok-Su" and "Suh Gung (West Palace)". And I heard about "Mu In Shi Dae (AOW)" in this Chicago forum and started watching it on KBS site. It's funny. After 10 years of rupture I rediscovered Korean dramas in American web sites. ;D
Yu Dong-Geun indeed played Cho Kwang-Jo, a much different style than we he portrayed Prince Yeon-San in "Chang Nok Soo". Meanwhile, we never saw the face of Yeon-San in this drama (in the beginning, which takes place right after "CHang Nok Soo"). Personally, i would have loved if Yu Dong-Geun had instead made a cameo as Yeon-San, and another actor (or else different make-up) for Cho Kwang Jo. Has Yu Dong-Geun appeared in any historical dramas since "Tears of the Dragon"? |
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Post by florel on Jan 29, 2006 8:59:03 GMT -5
Personally, I feel that the beginning of the drama is somehow too exaggerated. By saying this, I¡¯m referring to the actor and actress. At the time of filming (year 2001), Hong Rina is 33 and Eim Ho 30. Despite this, they are supposed to act as 13-year-old Lady Hyegyong and Prince Sado. Frankly speaking, no matter of their makeup, this is impossible and they do not look the least bit like teenagers. Eim Ho¡¯s face is even ¡°decorated¡± with beards. HAHAHA.. they were old children ! According to the infos I found on several korean web pages, "The path to the great dynasty (Dae Wang ui Gil)" was aired first time in South Korea in 1998. So Hong Rina was 30 (!!) and Im Ho was 27 at that time. Anyway, they were too old to be supposed teenagers. Hilarious ! BTW, is Hong Rina so old ? I thought she would have been in her twenties. I never have opportuny to see her acting. I wish I would be able to watch one of her dramas one day. Ohdarlin, your comments on diffrences between history and the drama are very interesting. Thanks ! Yu Dong-Geun indeed played Cho Kwang-Jo, a much different style than we he portrayed Prince Yeon-San in "Chang Nok Soo". Meanwhile, we never saw the face of Yeon-San in this drama (in the beginning, which takes place right after "CHang Nok Soo"). Personally, i would have loved if Yu Dong-Geun had instead made a cameo as Yeon-San, and another actor (or else different make-up) for Cho Kwang Jo. Has Yu Dong-Geun appeared in any historical dramas since "Tears of the Dragon"? So timelines of the drama is situated in early 16th century. JP, I agree with you that it would have been funny and more interesting if the dramatists had showed Mr. Yu as Yeonsan-cameo. After "Tears of the dragon", Yu Dong-Geun played Daewongun aka Prince Heung-seon (father of King Kojong) in "Empress Myung-sung (KBS, 2001)". This drama was made by AOW producers.  Recently SBS announced that they will employ Yu and his wife Jeon In-Hwa in their coming new historical drama, "Yeon Gae So Mun". BTW, it seems that KBC-Chicago never aired KBS2 historical dramas such as "Hae Shin (Emperor of the Sea)", "Empress Myung-sung", "Chang Hui-bin (2002-2003)", etc. If I'm not wrong, KBS2 is more commercial than KBS1. Did KBC-Chicago have to pay more if they want to air KBS2 dramas ? Just curious... |
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Post by Knov1 on Jan 29, 2006 9:35:32 GMT -5
BTW, it seems that KBC-Chicago never aired KBS2 historical dramas such as "Hae Shin (Emperor of the Sea)", "Empress Myung-sung", "Chang Hui-bin (2002-2003)", etc. KBC aired Jang Hee Bin but without subtitles. Speaking of "Tears of the Dragon", that's my all-time favorite historical drama. I have the last episode on tape. |
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Post by ohdarlin on Jan 31, 2006 0:30:08 GMT -5
  [glow=red,2,300] hungson daewon gun[/glow]     [glow=red,2,300] king kojong[/glow]  [glow=red,2,300] king kojong's family. from the left, prince <?> brother of king sunjong, king sunjong, king kojong, king sunjong's queen, princess <born of king sunjong and his queen> [/glow]  [glow=red,2,300] queen myunsong[/glow]   [glow=red,2,300] king sunjong[/glow] |
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Post by JP Paulus on Jan 31, 2006 21:43:04 GMT -5
BTW, it seems that KBC-Chicago never aired KBS2 historical dramas such as "Hae Shin (Emperor of the Sea)", "Empress Myung-sung", "Chang Hui-bin (2002-2003)", etc. KBC aired Jang Hee Bin but without subtitles. Speaking of "Tears of the Dragon", that's my all-time favorite historical drama. I have the last episode on tape. i know you say "Just say NO to repeats"...but how about "Tears of the Dragon"...it's been so long since i've seen it, and since we fans can NOW connect together & discuss it... |
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Post by Knov1 on Feb 1, 2006 8:25:54 GMT -5
i know you say "Just say NO to repeats"...but how about "Tears of the Dragon"...it's been so long since i've seen it, and since we fans can NOW connect together & discuss it... I'd definitely would have no problem with that but that's a bit different though. We're talking about a drama that was aired like 8 years ago which many viewers didn't get to see. "Tears of the Dragon" is one of the best historical dramas ever made and it features one of the finest actors in Korea. Yoo Dong Geun is the best I've seen when it comes to historcial dramas. Since we're talking about Yoo Dong Geun, I should probably mention that he also worked in MBC "The Age of Heroes". That was more of a modern drama but it still falls under the category of historical drama. I should change the message under my avatar to "Just say NO to repeats, bad editing and crappy reception".  |
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Post by kwoonie on Feb 2, 2006 3:45:58 GMT -5
Hi florel...thanks for your consolation on my vcr.  When the price of the dvd recorder goes down to something which I can afford, maybe - just maybe, I might be able to get it and record those shows which I am unable to watch. Yes, I too think that there are a lot of good historical drama productions which I hope our tv stations will air for all to watch, especially those that have been discussed on this board. There are so many good ones to choose from. Sad to say, Toji is only the 2nd historical drama aired on national tv so far. The 1st was Daejanggeum and it created quite a stir here. This drama was repeated only a few months after its first broadcast and there were still quite a high viewership. Most korean dramas that were broadcasted are the modern dramas. I agree with your statement - tv dramas are excellent for cultural exchanges, so much so a lot of people want to start learning the language and visiting the country. I guess I'm one of them... ;D I suppose its because China and Japan are so much more prominent that they seem to overshadow the other Asian countries but the rest are catching up. Oh dear...I forgot about Hur Jun. Actually Hur Jun was the 2nd historical drama. I got to watch it and it was good too. So that makes Toji the 3rd. Toji spans 3 generations though. |
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Post by cyuser on Feb 2, 2006 14:54:25 GMT -5
Personally, I feel that the beginning of the drama is somehow too exaggerated. By saying this, I¡¯m referring to the actor and actress. At the time of filming (year 2001), Hong Rina is 33 and Eim Ho 30. Despite this, they are supposed to act as 13-year-old Lady Hyegyong and Prince Sado. Frankly speaking, no matter of their makeup, this is impossible and they do not look the least bit like teenagers. Eim Ho¡¯s face is even ¡°decorated¡± with beards. HAHAHA.. they were old children ! According to the infos I found on several korean web pages, "The path to the great dynasty (Dae Wang ui Gil)" was aired first time in South Korea in 1998. So Hong Rina was 30 (!!) and Im Ho was 27 at that time. Anyway, they were too old to be supposed teenagers. Hilarious ! BTW, is Hong Rina so old ? I thought she would have been in her twenties. I never have opportuny to see her acting. I wish I would be able to watch one of her dramas one day. Wow Rina is blissed where did she find The Fountain of Youth? anyway .. Rina was born Feb 1968 and Im ho Jan 1970. How can it be 3 years diff between them |
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Post by Choko on Feb 3, 2006 8:07:58 GMT -5
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Post by cyuser on Feb 4, 2006 10:02:38 GMT -5
what's with that huge heart shaped thing on her head .. most be very uncomfy.
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Post by ohdarlin on Feb 5, 2006 0:34:19 GMT -5
Wow Rina is blissed where did she find The Fountain of Youth? anyway .. Rina was born Feb 1968 and Im ho Jan 1970. How can it be 3 years diff between them yah lor, i agree. hong rina really looks very young. when i first saw her apperance in jewel in the palace, i thought she was only about 20+ maybe in her late 20s but didn't expect her to be in her late 30s at the time she film the drama. according to some website, im ho is born in 1971... i'm not very sure if this is correct or that he is born in 1970 |
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When the price of the dvd recorder goes down to something which I can afford, maybe - just maybe, I might be able to get it and record those shows which I am unable to watch.
