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Post by truth on May 25, 2011 22:05:24 GMT -5
1. How did Ajikgi, Pa Yoon, Mok Rageunja, and Mak Gohae find out the identity of Sekkobi, because Sekkobi has the ribbon that Yeo Gu gave to Yeo Hwa. 2. Just keep in mind that the whole Jin clan and Hae clan rebelling thing is all fictional. None of that stuff ever happened. Neither Yeosan nor Yeo Chan are real characters. King Geunchogo most likely had a peaceful transition of throne. I'd say almost 80% of this drama is fictional. Even Jin Seung and Hae Gun are fictional characters. Jin Jung and Jin Godo were real people though, but they never rebelled against Yeo Gu. If Jin Godo hears about this drama, his zombie might come out of his tomb and terrorize the drama writing team By the way, DYC. Where did you hear about this QSD movie? I searched all over Korean searching engines, but I couldn't find a single article about QSD movie This just proves my fear. The drama focuses too much on internal strife than Geunchogo's actual conquest, doesn't it? Trust me, there were no internal strife at all in real history. King Geunchogo wouldn't be considered as one of the greats in Korean history if he had to go through internal strifes. Yeo Chan, Yeo Hwi, Yeo San, Yeo Mong, Yeo Chan, 2 evil brother's mother, Hae Gun and his dad, Jin Seung, Wi Birang, Hongran, Yeohwa, Sekkobi, King Gye's sons and grandson that Yeo Hwa is supporting are ALL FICTIONAL! And yes, I also think that the drama started going downhill when Yeo Gu became king. In real history, Jin Jung was a loyal minister of King Geunchogo. It is said that he was very arrogant and lot of people didn't like him, but he was very loyal to the King. He would've never rebelled against Geunchogo. Jin Godo succeded his brother as the head of the Jin Clan during the reign of King Geungusu. He was the father-in-law of King Geungusu. How could have that happened if he rebelled against Geunchogo? King Geunchogo most likely had a peaceful transition to throne and spent most of his time conquering lands with his loyal subjects Mak Gohae, Mok Rageunja, Sa Gi. Mak Gohae(Du Go) was not originally from Liaoxi and Mok Rageunja(Bok Gugeom) was not a slave of Jin clan. Both were from respected aristocrat families. Ajikgi was probably just a scholar and never really participated in any battles. He also didn't come from Liaoxi.
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Post by sageuk on May 25, 2011 22:30:37 GMT -5
Question: are you a historian or just a historical buff in general? You seem to have an awful lot of knowledge of Korean history (the fact you are a Korean living in Korea helps)
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Post by truth on May 25, 2011 22:47:40 GMT -5
Question: are you a historian or just a historical buff in general? You seem to have an awful lot of knowledge of Korean history (the fact you are a Korean living in Korea helps) I'm just a historical buff. I didn't know a lot about King Geunchogo before drama started. I just did some research when I was halfway into the drama. I live in California, not Korea.
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Post by sageuk on May 25, 2011 23:00:02 GMT -5
Know any historical sources I can find? I can only depend on Korean sites mostly (and I struggle with my Korean)
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Post by truth on May 25, 2011 23:35:47 GMT -5
Know any historical sources I can find? I can only depend on Korean sites mostly (and I struggle with my Korean) I mostly depend on Korean sites, too. I also have some books about Korean histories(in Korean).
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Post by shiku on May 29, 2011 7:40:28 GMT -5
Ep 49, I am kind of confused on what San was feeling before he died, was it regret not killing KG or was he touched that the King still considered him a brother despite all the stuff happened. I hope its the latter which would move him from the one-note character department
One would think Wiryegun would have learnt from all their previous failures and realize they aren't taking the throne back. I really do not like Yeohwa, she used to be quite intelligent but I guess she is blinded by hatred and rage.
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Post by MTR on May 29, 2011 15:03:36 GMT -5
Yes he stated in i think Ep 45 or 46 that he was going to end the Wiryegun problem once and for all .
Oh well guess he got sidetracked .
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Post by MTR on Jun 6, 2011 16:51:15 GMT -5
In ep 47 the Wiryegun Prince is seen practicing his swordplay and he is using a Japanese Katana .
Although its common knowledge that Japan did a huge trade selling swords to both China and Korea the Katana being the famed Samurai Sword was not even created until the late 10 th century that is 600 years after this .
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Post by MTR on Jun 15, 2011 17:13:40 GMT -5
EP 50 Talks about Princess Jingu coming from Nara aka the Eastern Capital in Yamato .
Its all rubbish first Princess Jingu if she even existed was around the time of Gwanggaeto or maybe 200 years earlier . She was actually a princess of the a Buyeo revival movement who fled to Gaya as a child ,married the King of Gaya than with all the Gaya braintrust fled to Yamato and set up camp . Still she is considered mythical at best .
Nara did not exist at the time of Yeogu it was founded in the 7th century . The Eastern Capitol was the whole East Coast of Japan not Nara and Nara was not a heaven for Pirates as it was in land not a coastal area .
I really hate it when they get stuff wrong ,this is broadcast tv how hard is it to pick up a History Book .
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Post by griffin on Jun 16, 2011 0:05:39 GMT -5
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Post by truth on Jun 16, 2011 2:47:42 GMT -5
EP 50 Talks about Princess Jingu coming from Nara aka the Eastern Capital in Yamato . Its all rubbish first Princess Jingu if she even existed was around the time of Gwanggaeto or maybe 200 years earlier . She was actually a princess of the a Buyeo revival movement who fled to Gaya as a child ,married the King of Gaya than with all the Gaya braintrust fled to Yamato and set up camp . Still she is considered mythical at best . Nara did not exist at the time of Yeogu it was founded in the 7th century . The Eastern Capitol was the whole East Coast of Japan not Nara and Nara was not a heaven for Pirates as it was in land not a coastal area . I really hate it when they get stuff wrong ,this is broadcast tv how hard is it to pick up a History Book . Come on, do you actually think they care about that stuff? Yeo Hwa's son becoming the next king says everything. Enough said.
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Post by MTR on Jun 16, 2011 14:57:18 GMT -5
yes you are so right .
I never really became bothered with Historical Accuracy until i saw the damage that Cruise Film did ,where people really took it to heart that Algren was a real person and he was the Last Samurai .
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Post by annette on Jun 19, 2011 17:50:56 GMT -5
Hey guys,
Can someone please explain the non aggression treaty that Sayu made with Murong Chui. Was the agreement that no one attacks the other until Sayu had dealt with Yeogu? I thought that in addition to that, Murong Chui was joining forces with Sayu to fight Yeogu just like Sayu and Yeogu did. I'm confused cos i watched ep 55 and Murong Chui is nowhere in sight. So the agreement didn't involve Murong Chui joining Sayu in his fight against Yeogu then?
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Post by truth on Jun 20, 2011 0:43:38 GMT -5
Hey guys, Can someone please explain the non aggression treaty that Sayu made with Murong Chui. Was the agreement that no one attacks the other until Sayu had dealt with Yeogu? I thought that in addition to that, Murong Chui was joining forces with Sayu to fight Yeogu just like Sayu and Yeogu did. I'm confused cos i watched ep 55 and Murong Chui is nowhere in sight. So the agreement didn't involve Murong Chui joining Sayu in his fight against Yeogu then? It's not that agreement had anything to do with Murong Chui, the writers just didn't use him without any explanation
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Post by MTR on Jun 20, 2011 16:27:12 GMT -5
Still though i like this drama ,after watching the raw feed of Ep 1 of Gwaggaeto id have been happier if they had just kept this one going .
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