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Post by MTR on May 21, 2011 22:44:43 GMT -5
Sageuk Once again no info in English on this man so i just quoted what was on wikipedia a few months back which could be changed by now .
Not a good source though remember some one put a bio of Cheonchu on there using the drama as a historical source So it said he went after the Hae Clan but never elaborated ,i really do not know if he killed the or bought them off but its also common sense anyway with all the looming wars knock all the domestic troubles on the head asap.
Truth may know ?
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Post by truth on May 22, 2011 0:42:43 GMT -5
Just watched the raw EP 57. Can anyone tell me what transpired between Yeohwa and Sekobi? Did she not acknowledge him as her son? She did, but she chose to support her nephew instead of her son. She thought it was too late to changer her mind now. She's been planning to make her nephew as the next king for the past 18 years in the drama
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Post by mango on May 22, 2011 1:26:34 GMT -5
Just watched the raw EP 57. Can anyone tell me what transpired between Yeohwa and Sekobi? Did she not acknowledge him as her son? She did, but she chose to support her nephew instead of her son. She thought it was too late to changer her mind now. She's been planning to make her nephew as the next king for the past 18 years in the drama So what made her go to Yeogu in the end of the episode? What was it the letter..or was it Dandani?
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Post by truth on May 22, 2011 3:30:24 GMT -5
She did, but she chose to support her nephew instead of her son. She thought it was too late to changer her mind now. She's been planning to make her nephew as the next king for the past 18 years in the drama So what made her go to Yeogu in the end of the episode? What was it the letter..or was it Dandani? It was the letter. Judging by the preview, I think she's going to commit suicide in the next episode.
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Post by shiku on May 23, 2011 11:39:11 GMT -5
@ DYC, @ Saguek I also agree it would have been better if they focused on the conquest and ended the royal line/clan business after the attempted coupe. I have a theory that they decided to focus on the royal issue to differentiate it from King Gwanggaeto which would probably focus on Goguryeo King's conquests.
Can you imagine if Yeogu was to meet with his grand son King Asin in afterlife who lost all the land he had fought so hard for to Gorguryeo, he would very pissed off to say the least
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Post by truth on May 23, 2011 13:31:35 GMT -5
@ DYC, @ Saguek I also agree it would have been better if they focused on the conquest and ended the royal line/clan business after the attempted coupe. I have a theory that they decided to focus on the royal issue to differentiate it from King Gwanggaeto which would probably focus on Goguryeo King's conquests. Can you imagine if Yeogu was to meet with his grand son King Asin in afterlife who lost all the land he had fought so hard for to Gorguryeo, he would very pissed off to say the least And that's not all. King Asin's great-great-grandson King Gaero lost Hansung(today's Seoul) to King Jangsu(son of Gwanggaeto) of Goguryeo. Hansung was Baekjae's capital city for 500 years until King Gaero lost it to Goguryeo. It's ironic that Goguryeo used the same tactic that Geunchogo used against Goguryeo to trick King Gaero. King Geunchogo sent Sa Gi to Guguryeo and King Jangsu sent Dorim to Baekjae. It is obvious that Gaero didn't read his history book lol.
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Post by shiku on May 23, 2011 18:46:38 GMT -5
That is even more messed up, how could he loose his own capital? His people must consider him a laughing stock. Does anyone get it back or does it stay in Gorguryeo's hands till the Tang/Shilla unification
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Post by truth on May 23, 2011 20:33:08 GMT -5
That is even more messed up, how could he loose his own capital? His people must consider him a laughing stock. Does anyone get it back or does it stay in Gorguryeo's hands till the Tang/Shilla unification Nope, no one gets it back. It actually gets taken over by Shilla way before the unification. King Jinheung(Queen Sundeok's grandfather) took over Hansung(old capital of Baekjae) from Goguryeo. This is why King Jinheung is considered as the Gwanggaeto of Shilla since he took over almost half of Goguryeo.
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Post by shiku on May 24, 2011 19:36:30 GMT -5
Interesting korean history gets interesting day by day. Will they also make a movie about him? He was only shown in QSD for an episode
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Post by truth on May 25, 2011 0:35:03 GMT -5
Interesting korean history gets interesting day by day. Will they also make a movie about him? He was only shown in QSD for an episode As of right now, there is no plan to make a drama or film about King Jinheung. The very next Shilla drama, Kim Choon Chu(QSD's nephew), will start right after Gwaggaeto ends next year.
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Post by annette on May 25, 2011 3:46:24 GMT -5
@ Gracien: Smarmy Hogwash and her elks! LOL! Luv it!
@ shiku: Where do you download your subtitles from? It's picked up so far and so am too impatient to wait for the hardsubbed eps to be uploaded. I don't understand how hongran adopting Sekobi would stop the rumors cos he's still that baby that was sung about. I like the look of Sekobi, he looks firm/solid as opposed to hongran's son - i suppose that was deliberate on the part of the writers. BTW i think we might see more of Murong Chui! You're probably ahead so you've most likely seen him. I just watched ep 48
@ truth: How did Ajikgi, Pa Yoon, Mok Rageunja, and Mak Gohae find out the identity of Sekkobi? (Subs taking too long to wait) Am surprised there was no attempt on his life - if the Jin clan had known first there probably might have been. I love Eun Jung and am soo glad she will marry Sekobi, am sure papa Jin Godo's gonna be none too pleased bout that. The Jin clan especially Jin Seung just never learn, and the Hae clan too. How many chances has Jin Seung been given - i used to like that clan but they need to be gone and ditto the Hae clan, its time that Hae Gun went to meet his ancestors. How can they not see that the brothers brought the destruction upon the clan and now they're repeating that mistake with Yeowha at the helm - she used to see that but now is completely blinded by her bitterness that has become a poisonous root. I was screaming for joy when that roach, (is it Yeosan?) the one eyed brother was finally rid of cos he had just about gotten on my last nerve i couldn't stand to see him anymore. In my opinion he should have just died in the palace but i guess the writers decided that was the perfect opportunity to bring in Sekobi.
How many generations is Gwanngaeto from the current king of Goguryeo?
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Post by MTR on May 25, 2011 13:16:55 GMT -5
I think Gwangaeto is only 2 or 3 he was born when Geunchogo died .
Next year 2012 there will me a mega Queen Seondeok Film ,plans are to release it in Asia ,Europe,and North America at the same time (silly silly first you have to find an American Company to buy it and knowing them they will cut it ,dub it and it will go straight to DVD some 2 years later)any way the same cast from the drama will return for the film.
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Post by shiku on May 25, 2011 19:23:50 GMT -5
I really do not see the need for a QSD film so am not super excited. Will they recast Bidam since KNG is still in the army? I hope they don't because he and Mishil were my fave people in the show.
@ Annette I get them from withs2.com but they only have till episode 48. I am not that ahead as I stopped watching the RAW videos and decided to wait for subs. Regarding the adoption, I still think it was done to prevent anyone from questioning his legitimacy if and when people find out he is really Yeohwa and KG's son. Remember that the doctor testified that the baby was full-term when it wasn't.
The three stooges (Pa, Mok and Mak) found the the ribbon that Yeogu gave Yeohwa (the one that always got her into trouble) in his clothes when he was taking a shower together with his brother. They followed him home and saw Yeohwa's former maid and put 2 and 2 together. Ajikgi was told by Hongran when she was debating whether to adopt Sekobi or not.
Ditto Yeosan, I couldn't stand him he should have died with his mother instead of Yeohwi
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Post by truth on May 25, 2011 21:53:25 GMT -5
@ Gracien: Smarmy Hogwash and her elks! LOL! Luv it! @ shiku: Where do you download your subtitles from? It's picked up so far and so am too impatient to wait for the hardsubbed eps to be uploaded. I don't understand how hongran adopting Sekobi would stop the rumors cos he's still that baby that was sung about. I like the look of Sekobi, he looks firm/solid as opposed to hongran's son - i suppose that was deliberate on the part of the writers. BTW i think we might see more of Murong Chui! You're probably ahead so you've most likely seen him. I just watched ep 48 @ truth: How did Ajikgi, Pa Yoon, Mok Rageunja, and Mak Gohae find out the identity of Sekkobi? (Subs taking too long to wait) Am surprised there was no attempt on his life - if the Jin clan had known first there probably might have been. I love Eun Jung and am soo glad she will marry Sekobi, am sure papa Jin Godo's gonna be none too pleased bout that. The Jin clan especially Jin Seung just never learn, and the Hae clan too. How many chances has Jin Seung been given - i used to like that clan but they need to be gone and ditto the Hae clan, its time that Hae Gun went to meet his ancestors. How can they not see that the brothers brought the destruction upon the clan and now they're repeating that mistake with Yeowha at the helm - she used to see that but now is completely blinded by her bitterness that has become a poisonous root. I was screaming for joy when that roach, (is it Yeosan?) the one eyed brother was finally rid of cos he had just about gotten on my last nerve i couldn't stand to see him anymore. In my opinion he should have just died in the palace but i guess the writers decided that was the perfect opportunity to bring in Sekobi. How many generations is Gwanngaeto from the current king of Goguryeo? 1. Pa Yoon, Mok Rageunja, and Mak Gohae find out the identity of Sekkobi when they see that Sekkobi has the purple ribbon given to Yeo Hwa by Yeo Gu. Ajikgi doesn't find out until Hongran tells him. 2. Just keep in mind that the whole Jin clan and Hae clan rebelling thing is all fictional. None of that stuff ever happened. Neither Yeosan nor Yeo Chan are real characters. King Geunchogo most likely had a peaceful transition of throne. I'd say almost 80% of this drama is fictional. Even Jin Seung and Hae Gun are fictional characters. Jin Jung and Jin Godo were real people though, but they never rebelled against Yeo Gu. If Jin Godo hears about this drama, his zombie might come out of his tomb and terrorize the drama writing team By the way, DYC. Where did you hear about this QSD movie? I searched all over Korean searching engines, but I couldn't find a single article about QSD movie
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Post by sageuk on May 25, 2011 21:58:59 GMT -5
@ Gracien: Smarmy Hogwash and her elks! LOL! Luv it! @ shiku: Where do you download your subtitles from? It's picked up so far and so am too impatient to wait for the hardsubbed eps to be uploaded. I don't understand how hongran adopting Sekobi would stop the rumors cos he's still that baby that was sung about. I like the look of Sekobi, he looks firm/solid as opposed to hongran's son - i suppose that was deliberate on the part of the writers. BTW i think we might see more of Murong Chui! You're probably ahead so you've most likely seen him. I just watched ep 48 @ truth: How did Ajikgi, Pa Yoon, Mok Rageunja, and Mak Gohae find out the identity of Sekkobi? (Subs taking too long to wait) Am surprised there was no attempt on his life - if the Jin clan had known first there probably might have been. I love Eun Jung and am soo glad she will marry Sekobi, am sure papa Jin Godo's gonna be none too pleased bout that. The Jin clan especially Jin Seung just never learn, and the Hae clan too. How many chances has Jin Seung been given - i used to like that clan but they need to be gone and ditto the Hae clan, its time that Hae Gun went to meet his ancestors. How can they not see that the brothers brought the destruction upon the clan and now they're repeating that mistake with Yeowha at the helm - she used to see that but now is completely blinded by her bitterness that has become a poisonous root. I was screaming for joy when that roach, (is it Yeosan?) the one eyed brother was finally rid of cos he had just about gotten on my last nerve i couldn't stand to see him anymore. In my opinion he should have just died in the palace but i guess the writers decided that was the perfect opportunity to bring in Sekobi. How many generations is Gwanngaeto from the current king of Goguryeo? 1. How did Ajikgi, Pa Yoon, Mok Rageunja, and Mak Gohae find out the identity of Sekkobi, because Sekkobi has the ribbon that Yeo Gu gave to Yeo Hwa. 2. Just keep in mind that the whole Jin clan and Hae clan rebelling thing is all fictional. None of that stuff ever happened. Neither Yeosan nor Yeo Chan are real characters. King Geunchogo most likely had a peaceful transition of throne. I'd say almost 80% of this drama is fictional. Even Jin Seung and Hae Gun are fictional characters. Jin Jung and Jin Godo were real people though, but they never rebelled against Yeo Gu. If Jin Godo hears about this drama, his zombie might come out of his tomb and terrorize the drama writing team By the way, DYC. Where did you hear about this QSD movie? I searched all over Korean searching engines, but I couldn't find a single article about QSD movie This just proves my fear. The drama focuses too much on internal strife than Geunchogo's actual conquest, doesn't it? I usually tolerate artistic licenses but this is ridiculous When did quality start to go down? When Yeogu became king? Yeah, that has to be it.
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