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Post by sageuk on Nov 7, 2010 12:39:32 GMT -5
some people in Jumong are going make an appearance in the first episode, a flashback to Baekje's origins.
Lee Duk Hwa as Jumong Jung Ae-ri as Soseono Park Jung-woo as King Yuri Kim Juyoung as Onjo
Soseono is a bitch in this drama in contrast to the portrayal in Jumong. One could say that Lee Duk Hwa's portrayal of Jumong is an asshole as well. Kind of disturbing to see after watching Jumong.
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Post by MTR on Nov 11, 2010 18:16:38 GMT -5
Here is the plot Geunchogo grows up in obscurity not knowing who he is or will become ,he gets the token loyal band of sworn brothers inc the guy who played Song Tae Ha in Chuno and they take off on Robin Hood Style romps until he becomes King around ep 50,
No i have no idea what the plot is but Entertainment Weekly was on set and the above is my guess what the plot may be .I am guessing but from the interviews with the cast i have a feeling i may be correct ,so back to EOTS ,KOTW,DJY plotlines.
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Post by sageuk on Nov 11, 2010 18:59:51 GMT -5
Why do dramas about monarchs in the Three Kingdoms period keep doing that? It's a cliche that's been done to death.
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Post by griffin on Nov 11, 2010 20:40:33 GMT -5
The first surge of the surf is ebbing, now we get meek waves.
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Post by truth on Nov 13, 2010 12:52:19 GMT -5
Here is the plot Geunchogo grows up in obscurity not knowing who he is or will become ,he gets the token loyal band of sworn brothers inc the guy who played Song Tae Ha in Chuno and they take off on Robin Hood Style romps until he becomes King around ep 50, No i have no idea what the plot is but Entertainment Weekly was on set and the above is my guess what the plot may be .I am guessing but from the interviews with the cast i have a feeling i may be correct ,so back to EOTS ,KOTW,DJY plotlines. uh you got it all wrong Geunchogo knows he's a prince and everyone refers to him as your highness from the beginning i've watched this drama up to ep 3 so far
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Post by sageuk on Nov 13, 2010 13:09:36 GMT -5
Here is the plot Geunchogo grows up in obscurity not knowing who he is or will become ,he gets the token loyal band of sworn brothers inc the guy who played Song Tae Ha in Chuno and they take off on Robin Hood Style romps until he becomes King around ep 50, No i have no idea what the plot is but Entertainment Weekly was on set and the above is my guess what the plot may be .I am guessing but from the interviews with the cast i have a feeling i may be correct ,so back to EOTS ,KOTW,DJY plotlines. uh you got it all wrong Geunchogo knows he's a prince and everyone refers to him as your highness from the beginning i've watched this drama up to ep 3 so far Ah, good! None of that "I'm a Prince? WTF!!" cliche. So how is it so far?
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Post by MTR on Nov 13, 2010 17:57:21 GMT -5
Hmm did say i have no idea what the plot is just making an un educated guess from 5 mins on EW
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Post by truth on Nov 13, 2010 18:28:37 GMT -5
uh you got it all wrong Geunchogo knows he's a prince and everyone refers to him as your highness from the beginning i've watched this drama up to ep 3 so far Ah, good! None of that "I'm a Prince? WTF!!" cliche. So how is it so far? its pretty good. most of the clothes and armors, not all, are based on real historical artifacts unlike IE's armor and WOW armors from QSD. it's interesting to see Goguryeo perceived as an evil country unlike in DJY and IE lol although it's not 'I'm a Prince WTF?' story, it is a story of an unwanted prince again. Here's the acutal plot. In the drama, King Geunchogo is a son of the King Biryu's second queen, the lover of King Biryu. He gets exiled to a countryside because of the jealousy of the first queen, who King Biryu married by arrangement. Geunchogo is forced to live his life as a salt merchant, though everyone know that he's a prince and refer to him as your highness. When King Gye overthrows Biryu and takes over the throne, Geunchogo bows to avenge his father and get his rightful place back as the king.(which is historically inaccuarate. Geunchogo is actually the second son of the first queen in real history. there was no overthrowing of any king thus no revenge) After the above plot is all over, the drama will focus on series of wars between Geunchogo's Baekjae and King Gogukwon's Goguryeo. Just like all other historical drama heroes, King Geunchogo is depicted as an invincible warrior who can kill 50 people in like 2 minutes without getting hurt lol Lee Duk Hwa makes a special apperance at ep1 as Jumong, the forefather of both Goguryeo and Baekjae.
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Post by sageuk on Nov 13, 2010 18:39:36 GMT -5
It's nice to see a more accurate depiction of the armor. I always felt that the fantasy armor in previous historicals were too flashy.
I know its inaccurate, but you gotta have conflict in a drama
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Post by MTR on Nov 13, 2010 20:33:06 GMT -5
It sounds really good better than recent KBS fare ,I was really worried they would blow this ,but looking good . How is the soundtrack ?
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Post by truth on Nov 13, 2010 21:21:27 GMT -5
It sounds really good better than recent KBS fare ,I was really worried they would blow this ,but looking good . How is the soundtrack ? soundtrack is okay they didnt use any modern love ballad music or rap songs
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Post by truth on Nov 13, 2010 21:34:51 GMT -5
It's nice to see a more accurate depiction of the armor. I always felt that the fantasy armor in previous historicals were too flashy. I know its inaccurate, but you gotta have conflict in a drama okay, it looks like the plot is not entirely inaccuarate. Some historians actually think that King Gye overthrew King Biryu and that King Geunchogo avenged his father. Looks like I was wrong. They don't think that peaceful succession was made between the two.
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Post by sageuk on Nov 14, 2010 1:16:35 GMT -5
I saw the first episode, and I'm loving it. Fight scenes are great, armor isn't flashy (seriously, previous historicals seem to love flashy armor-does Yi Soon Shin's armor count as flashy though? It looks cool). I especially thought that the tension between father and son was well executed. Royal families have to be the most dysfunctional families ever. Will they reconcile? Probably, giving Yeogu reason to avenge his father. But why does King Biryu hate him so much? Did I miss anything in the first episode?
Do historians think this because there were was a rivalry between two royal lines of Baekje?
Note: Some of the armor seem to be rehashes from DJY, particularly Goguryeo
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Post by MTR on Nov 14, 2010 17:15:40 GMT -5
The subtitled version will start on the ever so annoying (Lets see program's pre empted with no warning ,nothing ever starts as scheduled ,digital breakdown en mass )KBS World in mid Jan ....so at least 6 weeks . Right now there is nothing on KBS World worth watching save for the Wang Guhn broadcast which will end next month .
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Post by truth on Nov 15, 2010 1:43:26 GMT -5
I saw the first episode, and I'm loving it. Fight scenes are great, armor isn't flashy (seriously, previous historicals seem to love flashy armor-does Yi Soon Shin's armor count as flashy though? It looks cool). I especially thought that the tension between father and son was well executed. Royal families have to be the most dysfunctional families ever. Will they reconcile? Probably, giving Yeogu reason to avenge his father. But why does King Biryu hate him so much? Did I miss anything in the first episode? Do historians think this because there were was a rivalry between two royal lines of Baekje? Note: Some of the armor seem to be rehashes from DJY, particularly Goguryeo I think its okay to use the same armor from DJY for Goguyreo, though I doubt that Goguryeans would wear the same armors for 300 years. lol But they did a really good job for the armor of Goguryeo general Go Chisu. His armor looks just like the one from tomb murals(the only difference is the color. the armor in tomb mural was brown) Yi Soon Shin's armor is actually based off a real Chosun armor. KBS don't usually use fantasy armors for their traditional weekend historicals, except for the case of IE. King Biryu doesn't hate him. He's just pretending to hate him cuz he doesn't want any tension between brothers. According to what he said on ep1, there was some kind of a prophecy that said Yeogu is destined to be a king. Yeogu is the fourth prince in the drama and he's also the son of the second queen. King Biryu figured that his older brothers would never allow Yeogu to become a king(also the sons of first queen) . Although the historical records don't say there were any conflicts between King Biryu and King Gye or revenge by King Geunchogo, historians point out the fact that King Biryu and King Gye come from different royal lines as an evidence for the supposed overthrowing. King Biryu reigned for 40 years, so historians think that there is no way that King Biryu could have gave the throne to someone from a different royal line rather than one of his sons. King Gye reigns for only 2 years, which serves as an evidence for King Geunchogo's revenge. Did anyone notice that IE's armor was used as Soseono(Jumong's wife)'s armor?
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