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Post by petirrojo on Oct 23, 2003 15:07:08 GMT -5
Did WK steal SM's seal to put on the paternal recognition form while SM wasn't looking (or does he still have it)?
He must have, or he couldn't have submitted the form, but it was a little confusing. I know the show ran long a few days ago...
Also, I do NOT like the looks of WK's actions as they seem to be heading, based upon last night's (Wed 10/22) preview!
It is no wonder to me that SM hasn't bothered confiding in the old coot!
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Post by humble on Oct 23, 2003 15:56:15 GMT -5
I totally agree with you. That guy has gone from ok to really bad. He only wants to claim a kid he never knew. He should go see Yuna that is his grand daughter. He should respect his son wishes. Why does he not ask Sang-min why he quit his new job suddelnly. ANd remember when Sang-min doctor friend Min-joo was the only he could talk to about sang-min cancer. He the doctor said he could not talk to his father. We see the father is selfish man. I hope he never gets to see that kid.
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Post by ShoNuff on Oct 23, 2003 21:37:10 GMT -5
What makes me angry is that "BAD GRANDPA" (well deserved title) is like Yuna who? SM obviously loves Yuna and has finally realized that Ji-Min is not going to be devastated by him being sick. If selfish "BAD GRANDPA" would stop bouncing from one government office to another looking for a loophole in the law he might notice his son is at deaths door.
ShoNuff
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Post by TheBo on Oct 24, 2003 16:59:19 GMT -5
Another thought on this subject--I was wondering to myself why SM doesn't just tell WK he's dying to get him off his back, and I realized it would have just the opposite effect! Then he'd camp on his doorstep to force him to sign the papers to reopen JY's family register! Mean, selfish, oafish--can't begin to describe this guy. And did you notice him telling his wife he'd tell SM he is *dying* to get him to sign the papers? Irony!
I don't think they showed him stealing the seal, but I can't think of any other way he could have done this.
Bo
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Post by JadeEyes on Oct 24, 2003 17:21:52 GMT -5
Are we completely sure there really is an actual, physical stamp? I was thinking maybe saying "put your stamp on it" is a Korean expression, similar to people here saying, "Put your John Hancock on it" (we'll see if this makes it through the censor), or IOW, an official signature.
If it's just a question of a signature, sure, WK could easily forge that, I have no doubt.
Jade
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Post by TheBo on Oct 24, 2003 17:35:44 GMT -5
I think there is an actual seal. It's red. You sign your name, then seal it with your seal. Didn't they show that on some documents?
But then again, maybe I'm picking that up from sumi-e painting.
Bo
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Post by Soju on Oct 24, 2003 19:52:01 GMT -5
I've seen this in a lot of dramas. Apparently, all adult Koreans have a seal, a rubber stamp about the size of a lipstick, that they use in addition to their signature, on official documents. I think they migh have been shown when MJ and SM signed the divorce papers. I guess it is something like having something notarized.
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Post by mikey on Oct 24, 2003 21:34:03 GMT -5
I’m a little familiar about how this works in Japan, and my guess is that it’s pretty much the same in Korea. Every adult has his/her own seal. In the old days (and even today, for wealthy, important, and status-conscious people) a person’s personal seal was hand-engraved into a cube-shaped stone. A print of that hand-engraved seal was kept on file at a government office, and since each seal was made by hand, everybody’s personal seal was unique. Properly done, one’s personal seal would be extremely difficult to counterfeit exactly.
Nowadays, though, ordinary people (in Japan at least) usually just buy mass-produced, rubber-stamp seals at any old store, provided they have a reasonably common surname. This makes attaching one’s seal more of a ritual than any kind of true identification feature.
In Korea, I don’t know if there’s a generic, mass-produced “Lee” seal (which would have worked for anyone in the Lee family) or if Sang-min had his own seal custom made, in which case WK might have needed to steal it.
My own gut feeling (based on absolutely no specific knowledge) is that Min-joo, as a wealthy heiress, might have her own, difficult-to-copy custom seal, but that Sang-min may well have just used a generic one. And it therefore would have been no big deal for WK to attach any old “Lee” stamp to the document, maybe even his own.
All this is just a guess, though -- Mikey
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