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Sept 30, 2003 10:16:08 GMT -5
Post by galacticchick on Sept 30, 2003 10:16:08 GMT -5
I think yesterdays episode (#135--consider this as a spoiler if you want) was one of the best ones for a couple of reasons.
"Why the sudden change of heart?"--I never thought I would ever get to hear Sang-min say those words. But he did and I just thought that the way Min-joo just shrugged him off was fantastic. I felt like saying to SM, "Hmmm...I remember someone asking you that once". SM is totally getting payback for all the awful things he's done to JY.
I actually found myself rooting for Min-joo. I can't really explain it, but I think she represents the modern woman who gets what she wants, won't take BS from anybody and is in charge of her life completely. Sure, she's a pretty self-involved person, but that is just who MJ is, anything else would be out of character for her and wouldn't make her believable.
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Sept 30, 2003 15:26:35 GMT -5
Post by humble on Sept 30, 2003 15:26:35 GMT -5
I agree with you. but I think later as the show goes on min-joo will change her mind. And just for your sake we are on esp 135 in chicago. I am glad sang-min would give up. They need to stay togerher and work this out. No matter what .
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Sept 30, 2003 15:31:32 GMT -5
Post by petirrojo on Sept 30, 2003 15:31:32 GMT -5
I'm with you regarding MJ.
Okay, Min-joo's shown herself to be pretty selfish in many ways, and not always the best parent either, but she's got a lot of reasons to explain why she is the way she is, and as well she has a number of good characteristics too.
Why is she so obstinate about SM not putting JM on his family register? This isn't just about a continual reminder that another woman gave SM something that she can't (a natural child); after all, she's seen how totally SM took to having an adopted child and she's really been pretty supportive of JY's rights. I think the driving force behind her feelings is her painful childhood. From what she's told us in earlier episodes (or other characters have referred to obliquely) is that her father was obsessed with business and had no time for children. Her mother, before her death, was totally absorbed in smoothing his career. Her stepmother was forced into a role as first a mistress, then a very young stepmother to a resentful teenager. MJ knows first hand how complex family relationships poisoned her life (at least from her perspective). She assumed the role as president of Sierra Parks to try to "be" her father and win his respect from beyond the grave, in a sense. All she wants is a simple, straightforward, modern-but-conventional home life, no illegitimate children lurking in the corners. She's stressed too that the adoption of Yuna was an open adoption; she's not hiding any secrets on their family tree.
She's told SM how she feels. She's gotten his assurance that he won't claim JM. He's broken his promise. Can he be trusted to keep new ones? I wouldn't trust him either. And, although it may seem extreme to ask for a divorce, she did so to emphasize just how strong her feelings were. To say, "oh, just kidding, go ahead with JM and don't mind me..." would be to throw away the values she holds as important to her. I think I'd respect her less -- and any character who did something similar -- if she did so.
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Sept 30, 2003 15:52:50 GMT -5
Post by galacticchick on Sept 30, 2003 15:52:50 GMT -5
And just for your sake we are on esp 135 in chicago. I am glad sang-min would give up. They need to stay togerher and work this out. No matter what . Oops! I meant Episode #135. I'm in Chicago too. Went back to correct it so as not to get my head bitten off by people who don't like spoilers or are a little behind our schedule. When you say you're glad SM would give up, do you mean give up on registering Ji-min? Yeah, I wish he would give up too, but he's a pretty obstinate guy. He's clashing a lot with Minjoo these days because they are both 100% certain that he/she is the one who is right. I'm glad JY and YJ have stopped using this issue as an excuse for them not to go through with their wedding. JY, but especially Young-joon need to be happy. Which reminds me about something else I wanted to add: If anybody saw the earlier episodes (when he was barely getting to know JY) he told her about his Grandma would always feed him rice and kimchi, and on the occassions that she would fry up a fish for him he would smile and be so pleased for days: imagine the grin he's going to be having for the next weeks since he saw JY in the wedding gown, something like this: ;D.
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Sept 30, 2003 18:32:23 GMT -5
Post by JadeEyes on Sept 30, 2003 18:32:23 GMT -5
If you're posting about an ep. that has already aired in Chicago, you can never be posting a spoiler because the Chicago time frame is the one to follow for posting here. I have never taken anyone to task for posting something about an ep. that's been shown on Ch. 28 already (even if it's the same day). When I have gotten on people's cases, it's been for posting about stuff that hasn't aired in Chicago yet, and have not indicated spoiler warnings.
And FTR, I don't bite people's head's off. I only remind them of basic courtesies that are observed across the internet for fan discussions of TV programming. People who come to boards like this thinking they can do and say anything they want and no one has a right to place any restrictions on them are childish and rude.
Jade
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Sept 30, 2003 20:18:54 GMT -5
Post by jenny on Sept 30, 2003 20:18:54 GMT -5
Don't worry, Jade. I think galacticchick may have been poking fun at an out-of-towner . As for SangMin, I don't think he truly believed MJ would really divorce him, because she's played that card so many times before and never followed through. Her being so at peace with her decision and telling him she'd divorce him either way really brought it home to him how serious she was. Although I haven't seen tonights episode (9/30) so maybe what I've written is completely off.
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Sept 30, 2003 22:10:52 GMT -5
Post by galacticchick on Sept 30, 2003 22:10:52 GMT -5
And FTR, I don't bite people's head's off. Jade First: 1. There are 110 members in this forum. 2. I meant what I said as a preventive measure, not as a reaction to something that had already happened to me. 3. I didn't mean you, Jade. That comment really wasn't made to anyone in particular. Next: That's why my original post said "#135---consider this as a spoiler if you want". Because I don't want anybody telling me that what I wrote is a spoiler, to warn those who might think they are in the same timeline as us and to save my precious time from having to answer to things that have nothing to do with YH.
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Oct 1, 2003 21:22:26 GMT -5
Post by Avalon on Oct 1, 2003 21:22:26 GMT -5
Well at least by now folks are accustomed to remembering which episode (by number) they are watching.
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