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Post by truth on Mar 22, 2012 20:55:20 GMT -5
Just going back to the comment about K-drama heroes being too saintly and needing colorful support cast, at least in King Geuncheogo, I think the lead was pretty 3-dimensional. YeoGu had a lot of flaws, like all the characters, and that made him fun to watch. Then again, in Gyebaek, I think King Uija totally overshadowed Gyebaek as far as being an interesting nuanced character. Maybe Korean audiences want to see clean and pure male leads and frail I-need-to-be-protected female leads? On an unrelated note - I'm still getting the hang of all these characters - the young guy who has become CCH's new chess-playing buddy - he has a brother who we saw him talking to, and apparently his father is also in the cast. Which character is his father, and do they lean toward the Blue or the Red team (I tend to think of Choi Son #1 and #2 in terms of their polo colors). They have a father in this drama? I watched up to the most recent episode(10th ep), but I don't remember seeing their father.
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Post by mugwump on Mar 23, 2012 16:30:03 GMT -5
Well I'll have to watch that scene again. Maybe I'm getting my characters confused. It takes me a while to get everyone sorted out.
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Post by truth on Mar 24, 2012 18:48:25 GMT -5
Just watched ep11 and I have to say this drama is fantastic when it comes to historical accuracy.
Historicals these days don't hesitate in distorting history, so I am very satisfied with this drama so far.
This drama is a well blend of fictions and history. The part about the Mongolian diplomat at the end was exactly as it was written in the history record.
The political battle between Choi Woo and Choi Hyang is also very interesting. I have to say Lee Hwan Gyung, the writer, is finally back to his old self.
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Post by excelsior on Mar 24, 2012 18:55:01 GMT -5
Choi Woo and Hyang are far better realized (and more accurately) here than AOW.
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Post by sageuk on Mar 24, 2012 19:40:37 GMT -5
Honestly I don't understand the appeal of the Wol A character, outside of the obvious (she has a pretty face). She's just shallow....
I love that alot of research was put into this.
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Post by truth on Mar 25, 2012 9:51:27 GMT -5
When I said I like the historical accuracy in this drama, I meant the international events, politics, and some of the relationships between characters. The set-up of the characters and costumes are way off.
Choi Woo and his men including Kim Joon come out as good guys, but they were all in it for their own greed for power in actuality. The only good guy in the warrior regime was Kyung Dae Seung.
Kim Joon loves reading books in this drama, but all the warrior dictators were illiterate in real history.
As for the costumes(in addition to the ones I've mentioned few weeks earlier), the Mongolian costumes are way off. They are all dressed like uncivilized barbarians while the Koryo soldiers are wearing the helmets that Mongolians wore in real history.
Some of the hairstyles are too modern, especially Wora and Park Songbi.
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Post by sageuk on Mar 25, 2012 12:35:57 GMT -5
I'm really baffled that the warriors didn't know how to read and write, considering they're nobility, even if they were below the scholars (prior to the coup de tat that started the regime). The Cho'e family never knew how to read either? Were there any military officials who knew how to read and write? No wonder times were chaotic
In regards to the nice portrayal of the some of the warriors, to be fairCho'e Woo still shows signs of ambition. Besides, I think its a good idea to humanize some of these people even if its fictional humanization; I mean it wouldn't be any good to just portray him as a greedy stereotype, right?
The change with the Mongol armor is probably to differentiate them from the Koryo soldiers....ah who knows Still don't understand the appeal of the Wol A character
Here's the part I look forward to the most. Cho'e U and Cho'e Hyang's sword duel for succession, assuming they still keep it in the drama, but hopefully they will. I've always been a fan of brotherly showdowns
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Post by excelsior on Mar 25, 2012 14:12:54 GMT -5
Chung Jung Bu was literate. I think.
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Post by MTR on Mar 25, 2012 21:29:08 GMT -5
Chung Jung Bu i liked him in AOW ,what a slippery character never got his hands dirty ,it was amazing how he manipulated events ,people and situations his son bought him down though .
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Post by truth on Mar 26, 2012 21:00:24 GMT -5
Honestly I don't understand the appeal of the Wol A character, outside of the obvious (she has a pretty face). She's just shallow.... I love that alot of research was put into this. Here's how Wora is going to be killed off. Choon Shim gets filled with hatred after finding out about Choi Yang Back's feeling towards Wora, so she will help Choi Hang's brother Choi Manjong to rape Wora. Wora will committ a suicide out of shame after that. Once Wora's out, my favorite female character will be Yeon Shim. This drama just keeps getting better and better btw.
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Post by TheBo on Mar 27, 2012 9:30:08 GMT -5
SPOILER RULES
Hi, I've gotten a request to post some spoiler rules in this thread. Remember that everyone is not watching at the same pace. It only takes a moment to post spoilers properly. Suchly:
SPOILER ALERT "Episode ____" [number] or "About ___" [name of character]:
Start text around here. Leave plenty of blank space. DON'T use "ALL CAPS" because, well, I'll smack you--it's generally rude and makes text harder to ignore.
That should cover it. If anyone else has a suggestion for making spoilers easier to ignore, please say so.
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Post by truth on Mar 27, 2012 12:03:38 GMT -5
SPOILER RULESHi, I've gotten a request to post some spoiler rules in this thread. Remember that everyone is not watching at the same pace. It only takes a moment to post spoilers properly. Suchly: SPOILER ALERT "Episode ____" [number] or "About ___" [name of character]:
Start text around here. Leave plenty of blank space. DON'T use "ALL CAPS" because, well, I'll smack you--it's generally rude and makes text harder to ignore.That should cover it. If anyone else has a suggestion for making spoilers easier to ignore, please say so. Just to let you know, my post about Wora's death is not a spoiler since it didn't even happen in the drama yet. It's from a synopsis that spread everywhere online like a month before this drama began.
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Post by TheBo on Mar 27, 2012 13:33:41 GMT -5
And just so YOU know, I wouldn't know a spoiler from a nonspoiler on this thread, because I'm not watching the show, but I got a general complaint and that is a general instruction I gave there. Don't take it personally, my Korean-drama friend.
And besides that, even something you saw "everywhere" might be news to someone who hasn't seen the drama, or who is making an effort to keep from reading anything about it in case they get spoiled. As ajk has pointed out repeatedly, people get pretty riled up here when anything specific is posted, so you have to tread a little carefully. That's all.
Bo
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Post by truth on Mar 27, 2012 19:37:06 GMT -5
And just so YOU know, I wouldn't know a spoiler from a nonspoiler on this thread, because I'm not watching the show, but I got a general complaint and that is a general instruction I gave there. Don't take it personally, my Korean-drama friend. And besides that, even something you saw "everywhere" might be news to someone who hasn't seen the drama, or who is making an effort to keep from reading anything about it in case they get spoiled. As ajk has pointed out repeatedly, people get pretty riled up here when anything specific is posted, so you have to tread a little carefully. That's all. Bo I didn't take it personally, I was just letting you know it is not a spoiler since it did not happen yet even in the episodes aired in Korea so far and a sypnosis can be changed anytime.
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Post by MTR on Mar 28, 2012 11:33:49 GMT -5
Oh Miss Bo you are so authoritarian ...my my im getting hot under the collar ..phew !!! so excited ...going to pass out .....plop !!!...gone ..
Just kidding you know i am a warped individual (in a nice way i hope )
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