Does any fan feel bad for Min-joo?

[Mariah]

Hello all,

I was wondering if any fans felt bad for Min-joo on Friday’s episode? I know that I felt tremendous pity for her because her stress is always getting the best of her. I mean is she jinxed! However, even though Min-joo has an obsession to create mischief and disaster. I really dislike the way it always has to effect her health and makes her distress. I was so shock when Sang-min was shaking her and how she started bleeding. Also, it is always coincidental how Sang- min does something to get Min-joo’s private investors going and than when Min-joo finds out it all points to Ja-young. I just hope Min-joo can start using her ears and ask questions so it won’t bring any more complications in her path. However, Min-joo is Min-joo and she always thinks she is right lol.

[yobo]

I too feel sorry at this point for Min-joo, mainly for her bad marriage. Though she is mad at Sang-min now for things he didn't do, when she finds out all he has done, she'll be just as mad!
I thought it was an effective touch when just before she found the latest incriminating photos, she was seen smiling with her arm around her husband. It seemed she was feeling there may still be hope, then minutes later she was telling him "we're through".
Come to think about it, I feel sorry for just about everyone on this show except for S-M, who's only reaping what he has sowed. On another subject, did everyone laugh when Hyun-ji told Young-joon that he and his grandmother were "stubborn"?

[JadeEyes]

I don't feel the least bit sorry for Min-joo.

Strange as it may sound, I do feel a bit sorry for Sang-min at times. I know I probably shouldn't....but I can't help it sometimes.

I too laughed at Hyun-ji's "stubborn" comment. She's had several "pot calling the kettle black" moments that elicited a chuckle from me. Her degree of nerve is amazing.

How many people believe her "promise" to return home if Young-joon returns home for his grandmother? I don't. I see it as another attempt to get him back where she can work on him some more. If she was serious, she would leave now. I strongly suspect if he did move back in, she'd find more excuses as to why she can't leave just yet.

Jade Eyes

[Soju]

I do feel sorry for Min-joo. Coming on the heels of her miscarriage, perhaps this injury means she will not be able to have ANY children? Then what?

We see a lot in theses Daruma where a mother caring for her child, but not married to the child's father, carries shame, but a father caring for his child, but not married to the child's mother, is considered responsible.

I don't like this idea, but maybe Jae-young gives up her baby to Sang-min. He IS the father, after all, and doing so would also remove Grandma Son's objection to Jae-young and Young-joon's marriage.

It seems that as the show goes on, Sang-min is becoming more sympathetic, and the role of 'The one you love to hate' has gone over to Hyun-ji. Maybe this is so it wouldn't seem so outrageous if he got custody of the child. But Hyun-jican't go anywhere soon. Her meddling adds a lot of good twists and turns to the plot.

[YH addict]

I feel bad for Min-joo right now. But she did bring it upon herself. She was the one who hired the private investigator to dig up all that dirt on Sang-Min. She has to face the consequences. She asked for the truth and she got it. But what's up with SM?! Shaking his wife like that?! He has such a bad temper! And so does MJ. But I feel bad for MJ because she started to bleed. SM has put MJ thru a lot of stress. He should've been truthful right from the beginning. I can't wait to see the next episode!! Until then, peace out fellow YH addicts!!

-YH addict

[Angie]

I as well do not feel sorry for Min-joo.
How dare she go to Jae-young's workplace and slap her!
If anything Jae-young should blame Min-joo for breaking up her and SM (although SM is not saint).
I do think that the doctor is going to inform SM that Min-joo will not longer be able to conceive a child. Then Min-joo is going to find out Jae-Young is pregnant and will probably do something crazy like kidnap the child and try to claim it as her own and bring misery to everyone.
Anyways, I'm hoping YJ does not get mad at JY for those photos and that they still end up together. They just look really good together.

Can't wait for Monday's episode!

[JadeEyes]

I would feel a little sorry for Min-joo after last night's ep., if not for the fact she's behaved so odiously of late, I have no investment in seeing good fortune come her way...and no investment against seeing the opposite meted out.

I must say I don't understand her present medical condition and it's my best guess that it's totally invented for purpose of the storyline. Tumors don't just crop up overnight. So if the tumor she supposedly has now would make conception very difficult or unlikely, why then did she conceive so quickly after marrying Sang-min? The tumor had to be there when she married him, which was only a matter of months ago, afterall.

Also, the doctor never specified whether the tumor was benign or malignant. If malignant, a hysterectomy would be the standard-of-care treatment whether there was bleeding or not. In the case of a malignancy, the primary concern is stopping the spread of cancerous cells to other organs. Almost certainly there would be discussion of follow-up treatment of chemo or radiation therapy. Since none of this was mentioned, I have to assume it's a non-malignant tumor.

But if it's a benign tumor and the main concern is the bleeding it's causing and drop in blood pressure, then it should be a simple matter of going into surgery to have the tumor removed...but the uterus could stay in tact...that is, unless some other complication arose, like major hemorrhaging that couldn't be controlled. In a young woman w/ no children, removing the entire uterus would be a step of last resort by the doctors.

I think the writers invented a situation that is far from factual for the sake of an intesively melodramatic turn of events.

Jade Eyes

[yobo]

Jade Eyes, you don't understand what she's going through physically. and I don't understand what she's going through mentally. Why is she suddenly so intent on having a baby with the man she can't forgive and won't let touch her? She didn't seem to care much about a baby when she was drinking herself into oblivion, more worried about her husband's supposed affair than anything else. And now she's even further down the road of no return with Sang-min. I hope the writers aren't starting to go off the deep end!

[JadeEyes]

Ok, for starters, she could want the divorce sincerely and feel she's through w/ Sang-min and still be anguished at the prospect of never having children of her own. Maybe she's thinking she could start over w/ someone new after the divorce. Giving up on the dream or expectation of children, especially very suddenly, is a lot to take in at once, and could be quite daunting to reconcile.

I do agree, though, if she wanted a baby so badly, she ought to have taken better care of herself in her pregnancy and not gone on a giant bender the way she did, getting so unglued over her suspicions and such. OTOH, it's not uncommon for a person to squander and take for granted a blessing he or she comes by easily, and then anguish over it miserably when it's suddenly lost forever to that person. Added to that is what a spoiled, self-centered brat Min-joo has shown herself to be...she probably positively can't stand the idea that there's something she can't have.

What amazes me right now is how much sympathy I'm feeling for Sang-min, who is such an unsympathetic character...or has been until recently. This woman is making his life a living nightmare and he still stands by her, telling her he loves her and how all that matters is she be ok. Poor guy...he really caught it from all sides today...Min-joo screaming and wailing, his mother-in-law telling him men don't understand what it is to a woman not to have children, his father telling him how heartbroken he is and not a word of sympathy to his own son...the topper being Min-joo telling him it's over when he comes in trying so hard to be a loving husband.

The guy who plays him is a fantastic actor. His scenes of anguish today were so convincing. He really had me feeling for him. He has to be good if he can find a way to humanize a character who essentially has functioned as a villian all along.

Jade Eyes

[HumbleStudent]

I agree that Sang-Min is acting very sympathetic now. And I agree that MJ has been doing rude and irritating things. But she hasn't caused anyone any permanent injury yet. She is the only one in the whole cast (other than Ja-Young's mother, who died early on) to have suffered a serious and permanent injury so far.

Furthermore SM bears part of the responsibility for every irritating thing that MJ has done, because he could have resolved the situation at any of several times if he had just had the courage to go and tell his wife the truth. Instead he lied to her repeatedly, which she picked up on. You can't just say that MJ has become paranoid, because SM has done his part in creating a situation where she really doesn't know what to believe, like Charles Boyer did (intentionally) in the movie "Gaslight".

As for the "bender", there are plenty of women who abuse alcohol and drugs throughout their entire pregnancy and don't have miscarriages. In retrospect, isn't it more likely that the tumor caused the miscarriage? (but don't ask me why they didn't pick up the tumor on an x-ray at the time.)

So anyway, it may be the minority opinion, but yes, I do feel sorry for her. And I don't think it's just because I'm male and she's pretty.

Furthermore, I think Madame Oh had a point when she told him that just saying "it doesn't matter" is not going to solve the problem. His approach of saying "it's okay, stop crying, I still love you", sincere though it may be, would not be the right one even if MJ were inclined to listen to him at all.

hs

[JadeEyes]

Perhaps you mean "ultrasound" not x-ray, HS. Doctors don't give x-rays to pregnant women. I'm sure not even in Korea.

As to why it wasn't picked up by ultrasound, I don't know unless MJ never had one. Possibly she didn't. If the pregnancy is progressing normally, an ultrasound isn't always compulsory. Once she miscarried, possibly no one thought it necessary. That part makes more sense to me than a tumor springing up all of a sudden in MJ's uterus (since the recent miscarriage) or MJ getting pregnant right away w/ a uterus in her womb that would make it "difficult to conceive".

As for whether the bender caused the miscarriage or not, it hardly matters. The point is, a pregnant woman who knows better knows she has no business drinking alcohol, let alone drowning herself in the stuff as MJ did. Just because "plenty of women" abuse alcohol and drugs during pregnancy w/o miscarriage is hardly an excuse. There are plenty of people who drive cars while stinking drunk frequently and don't crash into anything or anyone for years...that still doesn't make it ok for anyone to drive drunk...especially not anyone who knows better. Whether the bender caused the miscarriage or not, MJ had no business getting wasted as she did...not when she supposedly wanted a healthy pregnancy and baby.

Furthermore, how do you know all of this would've been avoided had SM told his wife from the start about JY? Granted, his lies and avoidance have only fanned the flames of suspicion, but I think MJ is so insanely jealous, she might easily have gotten just as crazy and obsessed had SM told her about JY as soon as MJ "introduced" him to her as a new friend. I guess we'll never know...but MJ comes off possessive and jealous enough to me to believe that.

She's caused a lot of pain for a lot of people, all out of selfishness and childish insecurity. She's done her own share of lying and secret-keeping, which has only made her situation worse. Instead of confronting her husband directly w/ what she knew, she chose instead to torment him (and JY) w/ assorted schemes she cooked up. She's a crazy control freak and I just can't feel too sorry for any misfortune that comes her way.

Jade Eyes

[Angie]

Let's not forget that in previous episodes JY tried to abort the baby by drinking whenever the opportunity arose as well as taking the stairs. Nothing happened to her. It all depends on how fragile one's health may be.
Compare JY's lifestyle to MJ and I believe JY is the stronger one.
I bet SM is also regretting that he made JY "abort" her child?

[JadeEyes]

In fact, the most common danger of drinking alcohol during pregnancy is not miscarriage (although I wouldn't be surprised if rates of miscarriage are higher for women abusing alcohol) but babies born w/ fetal alcohol syndrome. In such situations, the baby is born not only addicted to alcohol (so it has to go through detox immediately and suffers full withdrawal symptoms, which can be grueling...even life-threatening) but also can be premature, have low birth-weight and brain damage, putting it at risk for learning delays anywhere from mild to severe....problems that can follow the child for a lifetime. There may also be motor delay, which can be permanent as well.

The point is, women who want healthy babies who will have a chance for completely normal development should refrain from drinking alcohol during pregnancy. Min-joo obviously knew this. She's a young woman who appears to be in fine health, other than her mental health, that is, and prior to this latest wrinkle. There's no reason I can see she the abuse she heaped on herself while pregnant would be more likely to induce miscarriage than what Ja-young did in the beginning (which was before I was watching). Who knows why she had the miscarriage? Sometimes it just happens, no matter how well a woman takes care of herself.

But the bottom line is, an expectant mother doesn't go on a bender if she wants what's best for her unborn baby. Min-joo acted recklessly and irresponsibly. She made a decision not only for herself that day, but for the father of her child and for the child itself. And that was wrong. It's not like she didn't want the baby and chose to have an abortion. She threw a temper tantrum in an emotional state when there were other, safer ways she could have handled things.

Jade Eyes

[galacticchick]

I do not feel bad for Minjoo, I feel bad for her unborn baby who had to be conceived to two reckless, self-centered parents.

Unlike other viewers, I don't feel bad for Sangmin either, his greed and arrogance has put him in the hell he is now. My thought on the whole "supportive husband" bit is that if Minjoo is his ticket to opportunity, wouldn't he try to hang on to it by his nails and teeth?
Or maybe he does love her, but Minjoo's limit of forgiveness has long been passed...