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Post by jochicago on Sept 26, 2007 17:21:47 GMT -5
Is it historically accurate that we see female warriors on the show? Would a woman like Chulin really be fighting along side her husband? And how did there come to be a female warrior among Dae Jo Young's generals? I only starting watching recently, so perhaps this has been addressed already.
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Post by truth on Sept 26, 2007 17:25:57 GMT -5
Is it historically accurate that we see female warriors on the show? Would a woman like Cholun really be fighting along side her husband? And how did there come to be a female warrior among Dae Jo Young's generals? I only starting watching recently, so perhaps this has been addressed already. i dont know about the khitans but according to some resoure Goguryeo actually had a female army. |
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Post by ginnycat5 on Sept 26, 2007 18:01:14 GMT -5
The female warrior on DJY's side has been the assistant (and spy) for Mimosa. I didn't see any explanation for her training, tho. Earlier she was placed with Xui Rengui as a maid and masseuse and labeled as "mute" so she got to hear everything he talked about. She was supposed to kill him but he stopped her and she pretended innocence.
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Post by ronin on Sept 26, 2007 19:15:36 GMT -5
I'm not sure, but I was watching a Korean historical documentary show in Channel 41 when Age of Warriors series was on that during Korea's Warring States period (which this series takes place), one of the ancient Korean kingdoms had a unit of all female warriors. I think I also heard about this from a Korean friend from another gaming forum I visit. Someone in this forum might know more about this better.
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Post by cheonson on Sept 27, 2007 7:23:02 GMT -5
Is it historically accurate that we see female warriors on the show? Would a woman like Chulin really be fighting along side her husband? And how did there come to be a female warrior among Dae Jo Young's generals? I only starting watching recently, so perhaps this has been addressed already. This is part of a news article on Korean female warriors in Ancient time. I have translated the Korean article into English. I also attach the pictures that are posted in the news article. At the moment I don't have information about Koguryeo female warriors but I reportedly hear there was special female group trained for wars, same thing to Wharang in Shilla and Saulabi in Baekje. ========================================== Ashes of 3 female warriors armed with metal armour and metal arms have been found in Ancient Tomb village in KimHae city in Kyungnam. Examination of the ashes shows that their leg muscles are better-developed than common women's and this prove that in KumKwan Kaya (one of Korean ancient Kingdoms in early Shilla period), there were a number of women warriors. Kaya is a nation of METAL, which had the equal power to the rest of the Kingdoms. There in Historical sites of Kaya, so many things to prove that the Kingdom had strong metal culture and powerful horse riding military. Excavation of the villiage took place during 1990~1992 year and 136 tombs were diged.  imitation of ancient Korean women warriors.  part of Kaya tomb village   one of metal arms  Kaya metal armour  imitation of Kaya cavalry  Shilla cavalry (clay) |
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Post by Betz on Sept 27, 2007 10:24:22 GMT -5
Hello Cheonson  Thank you so much for all the wonderful pics and info you added here and on other threads  Betz in Philly |
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Post by pip on Sept 27, 2007 10:43:27 GMT -5
JoChicago, I have been wondering the same thing, whether females warriors are historically accurate. Thank you for bringing up the topic here.
GinnyCat5, I have been thinking about Geumlan and how she came to be a warrior. Does anyone know if "Geumlan" has a meaning? I remember one episode in which Mimosa apologized to her for involving her in dangerous work, in his words, "especially because you're a woman." She replies, "I'm not a woman; I am Geumlan." So I wondered if the name means something special.
Cheonson, what spectacular pictures and history! Thank you! I have learned so much from this site.
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Post by truth on Sept 27, 2007 18:55:54 GMT -5
JoChicago, I have been wondering the same thing, whether females warriors are historically accurate. Thank you for bringing up the topic here. GinnyCat5, I have been thinking about Geumlan and how she came to be a warrior. Does anyone know if "Geumlan" has a meaning? I remember one episode in which Mimosa apologized to her for involving her in dangerous work, in his words, "especially because you're a woman." She replies, "I'm not a woman; I am Geumlan." So I wondered if the name means something special. Cheonson, what spectacular pictures and history! Thank you! I have learned so much from this site. geumlan means 'gold flower' but i dont think that has anything to do with what she said what i think she meant is that dont treat her same as other women because she is a warrior and only thinks of fighting. |
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Post by JP Paulus on Sept 27, 2007 21:34:34 GMT -5
Hmm...all this talk sounds like the idea for a new historical drama series! |
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Post by ajk on Sept 28, 2007 11:12:35 GMT -5
Great stuff, cheonson--thanks for going to the trouble of digging that up (no pun intended) and posting it, espeically with the translation.
Some of the female presence in the show has felt kind of forced, especially Chulin in the earlier episodes. Some of the Geumlan stuff more recently has been odd as well (she's supposed to be Mimosa's ward but she's trained to be much more of a warrior type--what's that about). I've wondered if it wasn't being done for demographics, to get more women watching the series. If so then they're missing a heck of an opportunity by not tossing in a female platoon or two.
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Post by vickieh on Sept 29, 2007 12:43:54 GMT -5
I love the fact that the show has female warriors. It adds alot to the show.
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Post by cheonson on Oct 1, 2007 8:30:44 GMT -5
Have you anyone heard of princess PyungGhang, a wife of general On Dal (5?? ~ 5??) in Koguryeo? According to the record, the princess trained her husband to be a warrior - in Dae Jo Young, general On Sa-Moon appeared as a grandson of general On Dal . As you see here, martial arts for females seemed to be common in that time. Also there is a story about Yeon Soo-Jung known as a younger sister of Yeon Gae-So-Moon, and her female warrior named "a Female Warrior Carrying a Pair of Swords - Yeon Soo-Jung was a lord of one of Koguryeo castles in a tale. Have you ever seen the two warriors in the SBS drama Yeon Gae So Moon? There is no historical proof that the two were actual figures but I think at least this can be a vague hint to imagine the old times.
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