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Post by CaptainVideo on Apr 12, 2006 1:43:10 GMT -5
Happy Camper, thanks for the reminder of the born out of wedlock thing; I also thought of the Pilgoo/Ms. Heo connection. BAE, I only calls 'em as I sees 'em: Day is reading the classics in English after his operation and Minjoo has an IQ of 98 and is depicted reading comic books; I think I've drawn precisely the conclusion that the writers intended for me to draw. Ducky, as far as what constitutes "grown up", I think when you cease to worry about whether you are or not is a good starting point to identify when one is; I don't, however, recall bringing up the issue of "grown up". My point was that if 98 is supposed to be in Day's catagory, why would Ms Heo think that Dr Park would want to marry her, as a science project? Now we know that's not quite the case.
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Post by ginnycat5 on Apr 13, 2006 11:22:42 GMT -5
My point was that if 98 is supposed to be in Day's catagory, why would Ms Heo think that Dr Park would want to marry her, as a science project? Now we know that's not quite the case. I think I missed something. Why isn't that the case? I was thinking that she wants her daughter to make the best marriage possible. So why not try to catch the eye of Dr. Park and hope for the best? Altho she seems so calculating, when it's about her only child, she may be somewhat emotional instead of rational. |
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Post by CaptainVideo on Apr 13, 2006 13:02:25 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't make myself too clear. What I meant, was that when I viewed the episode, I was under the impression that an IQ of 98 implied severe mental deficiency and would thus not be quite a good match for the doctor as a mate. Now that I understand that 98 is average, it doesn't seem so unreasonable that the mother would see her daughter as a real contender for Dr. Park's affections.
I realize that my commentary may be sounding a bit elitist, but just think about having things in common as the basis of a relationship. From my experience, the addage of "opposites attract" really only works out well in the long term with magnets. This is the basis of cultural identity; please don't assume this argument is headed toward nationalism of any sort. I'm just analysing the story as I observe it; real life experiences will always be expempt from adherence to this train of thought.
My take on the theme of the story is assimilation and juxtaposition of opposites. Day wants to be like everybody else because he's been different all his life and has been acutely aware of how society refused to accept him in his previous condition. Minjoo's natural attraction is to Padlock and vice versa. Dr. Park oddly enough is falling for a woman out of his social realm but that is the contrast to the theme that creates interest; I'm thinking of Dr. Park's amusement during his first encounter with Eunhye at the hospital (yes, the accident scene is the "first encounter", but I'm referring to when she mistakes him for a custodial worker, and then a cop but never a doctor, because she identifies with the working class by virtue of being one of them. She would have never struck up a conversation with him if she knew his real profession. Am I truly the only one that sees this?
So, in conclusion, I see it as very deliberate story telling in the contrast of choices of literature illustrated. Minjoo could have been reading pulp fiction, or romance novels, but the fact that the stories she reads contain illustrations which comprise more of the page than the written word is a strong visual image which only has one meaning to me. These producers seem to lack some nuance with these visual symbols (the glowing light between the new lovers as they discover their newlyfound bond was cute but obvious). I hope that explains my opinion a bit better.
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Post by Lucy on Apr 13, 2006 14:16:22 GMT -5
I getcha, Captain V. A very short response to your long post, but that's all I'm up to.  And I agree that her reading of comic books was shown in such a way as to make us wonder if she was a little simple. She was giggling, after all, and, if I had known she was reading a comic book (which I didn't pick up on), that would have made it obvious that she was not reading some fancy graphic novel but something more on the level of Archie's Laff Digest. But also, as much as I love the "I accept you as you are" thing, and I love Padlock and Minjoo together, wouldn't you ask someone who'd told you he'd been arrested 5 times just what his crime was? I'd sure like to know, if I were falling for that person. |
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Post by ginnycat5 on Apr 13, 2006 17:16:36 GMT -5
Definitely I would want to know! Jaywalking, assault, spitting on the sidewalk, rape-there are so many possibilities. It's certainly important.
I was surprised when he handed Pilgoo the printouts he had gotten off the internet of the news about Day (or the doctor). That's pretty enterprising of him. And skilled.
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Post by CaptainVideo on Apr 14, 2006 0:20:47 GMT -5
Very good point about the jail record, Lucy and ginnycat; I don't have an answer for that one. By the way, it was mentioned somewhere else that his record has been disclosed earlier, but I really don't remember hearing it until this confession to Minjoo.
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Post by Lucy on Apr 14, 2006 13:18:05 GMT -5
One would think with a nickname like Padlock, his crime of choice would have been breaking and entering/burglary. The least of most of the possible evils, in my opinion.
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Post by cyuser on Apr 15, 2006 15:19:15 GMT -5
TALK ABOUT MANHWA! There's few adults manhwa store in Korea. It's like library .. I don't think you can buy books (Never been there) but I think you pay to read those books .. hour bases payment. Those store are located basements .. I was curious about it but never had guts to go there .. afterall I have reputation to protect  |
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Post by ovaridedis24 on Apr 18, 2006 10:41:31 GMT -5
I thought it was great when Min-joo shoved Padlock away and they had the sound effect going (was it from Wonder Woman?)...afterwards she says that she's surprisingly strong. ;D
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Post by sushimi on Apr 18, 2006 11:17:30 GMT -5
Yesterday, I'm watching "Hello, God!" and saw that Minjoo was born without that her mother don't be married.... I never saw this detail before.....
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Post by BAE on Apr 18, 2006 12:47:20 GMT -5
Sushimi, I didn't really understand the revelation you were trying to share with us. What was minjoo "born without" exactly? And what's this business about "her mother don't be married"? I am a bit confused. Are you trying to say that Minjoo was born out of wedlock? If so, was this revealed in last Saturday's episode... ?
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Post by sushimi on Apr 18, 2006 13:09:17 GMT -5
Bae Yes she was born out of wedlock! I don't remember how to say in english because I don't always take my english dictionnary next to me.... and don't know how to say it in english... No, it wasn't in the last episode, but when Padlock and her shared their secrets together, remember when she said about her I.Q..... |
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Post by gpaul on Apr 18, 2006 13:31:35 GMT -5
Sushimi you said it just fine, we just found out that Minjoo was born out of wedlock, we do not know who her father is at this point, but we will probably learn who he is.
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Post by cyuser on Apr 18, 2006 13:58:10 GMT -5
we just found out that Minjoo was born out of wedlock, we do not know who her father is at this point, but we will probably learn who he is. or not .. that's the question |
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Post by CaptainVideo on Apr 18, 2006 22:08:14 GMT -5
I thought it was great when Min-joo shoved Padlock away and they had the sound effect going (was it from Wonder Woman?)...afterwards she says that she's surprisingly strong. ;D That sound effect would be the intellectual property of the $6 Million Man/Bionic Woman franchise. I like the recent commercial (for whatever it was they were hawking) where Lee Majors corrects the young man on the correct vocal imitation of the sound effect: neh-neh-neh-neh-neh-neh-neh-neh...... ;D I told ya she was a superhero! |
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And I agree that her reading of comic books was shown in such a way as to make us wonder if she was a little simple. She was giggling, after all, and, if I had known she was reading a comic book (which I didn't pick up on), that would have made it obvious that she was not reading some fancy graphic novel but something more on the level of Archie's Laff Digest.
