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Post by luv unwinding on Mar 11, 2005 16:14:02 GMT -5
Maybe luvarchfiend was Orang of AOW or a female archfiend in an uncertain period. yes florel, a female archfiend . certainly not as ruthless and much, much smarter.
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Post by galacticchick on Mar 11, 2005 17:37:24 GMT -5
I voted for female/modern. I did like DJG a lot and all, but I guess my love for the historical drama must not be so big since I didn't watch all of Damo and I currently don't watch YSS.
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Post by skinz on Mar 11, 2005 19:47:21 GMT -5
just got engaged. Not only that, but now I want to try to get into Columbia University, in hopes of a better degree. Congrats, man. Its gonna be tough but it'll pay out in the long road.
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Post by moreshige on Mar 12, 2005 0:34:08 GMT -5
Ok here's an update: Hmmm, my poll should've reflected the following categorizations because for one thing, I think for someone like galacticchick should belong to "gal likes both but prefers modern" even though she chose "gal/only modern drama"
gal prefers modern drama: galacticchick guy prefers modern drama: Toronaga gal likes both but prefers modern: guy likes both but prefers modern: Soju* gal likes both, no preference: Bo, Kathleen34 guy likes both, no preference: moreshige, generaldu gal likes both but prefers historical: Alexa guy likes both but prefers historical: Seven Stars, donilpark gal prefers historical drama: florel, Chigirl68, Eowyn*, luvarchfiend guy prefers historical drama: Skinz, ID
* Eowyn --watches only historical but don't mind the romance in them.
*Soju -- prefers modern but also likes historical without the warfare.
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Post by moreshige on Mar 12, 2005 1:26:24 GMT -5
Now, listen carefully... .the preference for a particular type of drama doesn't put you at odds nor conformity to precieved gender roles. It's just a perception I was really trying to create with our interest in korean drama; the idea that violence is a man's domain usually shown in historical drama and romance is a woman's domain usually shown in a modern drama is really an illusion. The implied meaning behind this is that if you were a woman who prefers historical drama or a man who prefers modern drama, then you'd be considered a non-conformist. Which follows that if you were a man who prefers historical or a woman who prefers modern drama then you'd be a conformist. But this was not the point of my experiment. The point was to make you *think* that this was the "right" standard. There is nothing "out-of place" with women liking violence and non-romantic themes or men liking romance. And just in the same vein there is nothing wrong with women liking romance and men liking violence related themes. Our preferences shouldn't allow us to make us think we'll become any manlier nor more feminine. But I'm pretty much sure everyone here understands that.
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Post by ID on Mar 12, 2005 9:50:14 GMT -5
I love the action, and all the turmoil. Goes great with a cold beer. If any of my friends, coworkers or otherwise, would catch me watching some soapy garbage, I really wouldn't feel right. It's like a hippy working in a construction company. This is just my opinion. My woman prefers the love stories that occasionally pop up in YSS {she hated AOW}, but otherwise has no interest in it. I probably have no right to say this, but I am somewhat surprised at how few men here don't entirely prefer the hsitorical drama. There is nothing wrong with that. Hwoever, I don't think this poll has passed it's infant stage, so I would think that it deserves more time. Don't we have 800 memberws or something like that?
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Post by moreshige unlogged on Mar 12, 2005 10:07:21 GMT -5
I love the action, and all the turmoil. Goes great with a cold beer. If any of my friends, coworkers or otherwise, would catch me watching some soapy garbage, I really wouldn't feel right. It's like a hippy working in a construction company. This is just my opinion. My woman prefers the love stories that occasionally pop up in YSS {she hated AOW}, but otherwise has no interest in it. I probably have no right to say this, but I am somewhat surprised at how few men here don't entirely prefer the hsitorical drama. There is nothing wrong with that. Hwoever, I don't think this poll has passed it's infant stage, so I would think that it deserves more time. Don't we have 800 memberws or something like that? Well, the poll still is ongoing but I revealed my purpose because I believe most of the active members have responded.
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Post by moreshige on Mar 12, 2005 10:09:32 GMT -5
I love the action, and all the turmoil. Goes great with a cold beer. If any of my friends, coworkers or otherwise, would catch me watching some soapy garbage, I really wouldn't feel right. It's like a hippy working in a construction company. That's a very colorful description. lol....Just too funny!
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Post by moreshige on Mar 12, 2005 10:49:31 GMT -5
Let me try throwing a curve ball to those who think historical and modern korean dramas are like apples and oranges. Remember the scene in YSS (I think one of the first 4 episodes) where the son (I forget his name) returns from being a prisoner on a Japanese ship? On his return he reunites with his father but his father scolds him for not sacrificing his life along with the other prisoners. Then the father proceeds to tell his son that he basically has no son. Later, we find out that the son, a commander, recieves a fatal blow during a battle on his ship. The father, a lowly rower on the same ship, rushes upstairs and holds his dying son in his arms. As viewers, we're touched by this scene because we know about the relationship between the father and son.
Now, korean modern dramas aren't that different when it comes to exploring familial relationships. As many lovers of modern drama on this board have atested, they love korean modern drama because they aren't centered around just the love story or gratuitous sex like their american counterparts. Korean modern drama also goes into relationships between fathers and sons, mothers and daugthers, grandparents and etc. So as lovers of korean drama, I believe we have more in common than we really think.
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Post by moreshige on Mar 12, 2005 11:02:42 GMT -5
Yeah, "Cho kwang jo" and "Sang-do" are war-free historical dramas. As I have ten years lacuna of korean drama, I could'nt watch both of them unfortunately. "Moreshige" is the last Korean drama I viewed in Korea. I remember there are some violent scenes with Choi Min-Soo and his fellows. Well, come to think of it, "moreshige" was centered around the kwangju massacre incident. thanks. I appreciate it
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Post by florel on Mar 12, 2005 12:22:02 GMT -5
Well, come to think of it, "moreshige" was centered around the kwangju massacre incident. Yeah, you justly mentioned "Moreshige" is a modern drama which has a historical epic dimension. There are everything : politics, violences (as like epic dramas ), romances, friendship, a male bodyguard, etc. I belong to the last generation of those who threw fire bottles against the military dictators' battle police. So this drama gives an intense emotion to our generation and those who preceded us. I watched it ten years ago, but the drama left strong images in my memory.
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Post by florel on Mar 12, 2005 12:26:16 GMT -5
yes florel, a female archfiend . certainly not as ruthless and much, much smarter. Absolutely, LAF. Cann't vote, since I decided to give up my username. {i'll still might come in once or twice a week} I just got engaged. Not only that, but now I want to try to get into Columbia University, in hopes of a better degree. Bon courage et bon resultat, ID !
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Post by Skinz Unlogged on Mar 12, 2005 13:13:56 GMT -5
Now, korean modern dramas aren't that different when it comes to exploring familial relationships. As many lovers of modern drama on this board have atested, they love korean modern drama because they aren't centered around just the love story or gratuitous sex like their american counterparts. Korean modern drama also goes into relationships between fathers and sons, mothers and daugthers, grandparents and etc. So as lovers of korean drama, I believe we have more in common than we really think. If I want to watch something about relationships than I could analyze my relationship with my family and friends. I need something more entertaining than following a couple consulting their realtionships with their in-laws are whatever in my opinion.
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Post by moreshige on Mar 12, 2005 14:02:05 GMT -5
Yeah, you justly mentioned "Moreshige" is a modern drama which has a historical epic dimension. There are everything : politics, violences (as like epic dramas ), romances, friendship, a male bodyguard, etc. I belong to the last generation of those who threw fire bottles against the military dictators' battle police. So this drama gives an intense emotion to our generation and those who preceded us. I watched it ten years ago, but the drama left strong images in my memory. That's why I think "moreshige" is the epitome of korean drama and what korean drama can be because it has everything. It's just too bad most of the posters missed this drama. People rave about AOW and WLS but they haven't seen the best of the best.
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Post by moreshige on Mar 12, 2005 14:30:33 GMT -5
If I want to watch something about relationships than I could analyze my relationship with my family and friends. I need something more entertaining than following a couple consulting their realtionships with their in-laws are whatever in my opinion. Well, I have to respectfully disagree here. While it is true that there are instances of lovers in modern korean soapy romances who consult their love relationships with their relatives, (this is not the difference I'm talking about) there are many instances where the relationship is just about the father and son or mother and daughter and not about such-such's girlfriend/wife or boyfriend/husband. I forget to mention that I meant relationships in a broader sense which includes friendships, familial ties, business partnerships, even war councils if you will. The themes of loyalty , tradition, destiny, individual struggle, moral dilemma, love of country, betrayal etc. are all prevelant in the better korean dramas whether they be modern or historical.
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