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Post by roxelanahybrida on Oct 20, 2005 12:48:08 GMT -5
Was it ever either shown or mentioned on the show what happened to the two young princes that the Japanese were holiding as hostages? It seemed to me that this was just another story line that got dropped,but I'm not sure.
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Post by TheBo on Oct 20, 2005 13:03:24 GMT -5
Roxy, there was a news story about them recently. I think their descendants turned up in either China or Japan, and the last one died. We had a discussion about it in the YSS Tangents section (pretty acrimonious as I recall, some nonsense about who was a Manchu or something like that). I think they never were returned to the king or Chosun at all.
Someone else may have proper memories, unlike me.
Bo
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Post by florel on Oct 20, 2005 15:07:59 GMT -5
Bo, you seem to be referring to the last prince of Chosun dynasty in the 20th century. Two princes of king Sunjo, who fell in captivity, returned to Seoul one year later. But it's not mentioned in the drama which gave only a small quota to diplomatic stuffs. These are brief biographies of two princes. Prince Imhae (1574-1609) - Yi Jin. The eldest son of king Sunjo from his concubine Lady Gong-bin. He couldn't become Crown Prince because he was notorious as a violent, rude, delinquent prince and caused many scandals. He even raped aristocrat women. His younger brother Prince Gwanghae (1575-1641) was designated as the Crown Prince when the Imjin War broke out. Prince Imhae was so hated by the Chosunese people that his house was burnt down when the king and the royal family left Seoul and took refuge in 1592. Prince Imhae became captive with his half-brother Prince Sunhwa in Ham-kyung province in the 24th July 1592 by the Chosunese traitor Guk Kyung-In who turned in him to Kato Kiyomasa. Two princes were in captivity in Busan during about a year and released on the 29th September 1593 when the Ming envoy Shen Weijing returned from Nagoya after having met Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Since then, Prince Imhae became more violent than ever. lol In 1608, king Sunjo died and Prince Gwanghae ascended the throne. Considered as a dangerous rival of the new king, Prince Imhae was exiled to Jindo Island (Cholla province) and then to Gang-hwa Island (Kyung-ki province). He was executed by drinking a cup of poison sent from his brother in 1609. Prince Imhae was rehabilitated in 1623 after the Coup of the Westerners who dethroned Prince Gwanghae and who made king Injo (a grandson of king Sunjo) accede to the throne. Related thread in IYSS Tangents board - Historical dramas : King Sunjo and his sonPrince Sunwha (1580-1607) - Yi Bo. Sixth son of king Sunjo and his concubine Lady Sun-bin. He was 12 years old when the Imjin War broke out. In July 1592, he became a captive of the Japanese along with his half-brother Prince Imhae. After being released in 1593, he got married with a daughter of Hwag Hyuk, the Right Royal Secretary. But he died at the age of 28 without a descendant. |
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Post by TheBo on Oct 20, 2005 15:23:12 GMT -5
No relation to "The Bo" LOL. Thanks, Florel. I knew that if I put up some bolluxed-up version of the litany of facts roiling around in my brain, you'd come to the rescue. Not that I was counting on that, mind you. Ahem. Bo |
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Post by what is in thought on Oct 20, 2005 20:20:15 GMT -5
[In 1608, king Sunjo died and Prince Gwanghae ascended the throne. Considered as a dangerous rival of the new king, Prince Imhae was exiled to Jindo Island (Cholla province) and then to Gang-hwa Island (Kyung-ki province). He was executed by drinking a cup of poison sent from his brother in 1609. Prince Imhae was rehabilitated in 1623 after the Coup of the Westerners who dethroned Prince Gwanghae and who made king Injo (a grandson of king Sunjo) accede to the throne.]
Somethings in this paragragh does not make sense. Mainly the fact that Prince Imhae was executed by poision. I mean once your dead you can not be rehabilitated.
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Post by florel on Oct 20, 2005 23:48:43 GMT -5
"rehabilitate" from The American Heritage Dictionary (Fourth Edition, 2000).
TRANSITIVE VERB
1. To restore to good health or useful life, as through therapy and education.
2. To restore to good condition, operation, or capacity.
3. To reinstate the good name of.
4. To restore the former rank, privileges, or rights of.
ETYMOLOGY: Medieval Latin rehabilitare, to restore to a former rank : Latin re- + Late Latin habilitare, to enable
Of course, I used this vocabulary following the usage of # 4 with its original meaning in Latin (to restore to the former rank).
In Prince Imhae's case, it was a posthumous rehabilitation of his rank and his honor because he was executed after having been accused as a traitor and rehabilitated after his death.
In French, it's perfectly legitimate to say "rehabiliter les morts (to rehabilitate the dead)". I guess it also works in English.
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Post by roxelanahybrida on Oct 24, 2005 10:44:49 GMT -5
Thank you Florel!
I feel sorry for Yi Bo, it sounds like he had a pretty miserable life,first being a captive, then dying at a young age without any children. Yi Jin on the other hand...it sounds like the Japanese were probably happy to give him back!
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