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Post by dspR on Oct 3, 2005 5:29:46 GMT -5
This episode was pretty much heartbreaking.
I must say the opening was pretty good. It was weird seeing Hideyoshi viewed from different camera angles, but cool seeing a nightmare of an assassination by Admiral Yi himself.
The Ming troops gave high praise to Yi Soon Shin, while the incompetent King Sonjo ignored the fact that Yi Soon Shin just saved the country's life by giving him a pardon. That's ridiculous.
At least Kim Wan is back on track, but with the bad news.
I felt kinda bad for Wakizaka because all he wants is a battle on equal terms. Yi Soon Shin looked so happy while reading the letter sent by his son. It just broke my heart when he was the only one left fighting and Wakizaka just took his life at an instant.
About the next episode. Why is Sung Ryong in a military uniform?
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Post by Eowyn on Oct 3, 2005 13:08:03 GMT -5
This episode was pretty much heartbreaking. I felt kinda bad for Wakizaka because all he wants is a battle on equal terms. Yeah, the episode was heartbreaking. I liked how the scenes with YSS reading his son's letter/patrolling the men's quarters alternated with the scenes of his son helping the people escape (good Myon) and bravely fighting the Japanese. The son's voiceover was very moving. Also YSS crying at the end, saying in his thoughts that the sky no longer had color for him and asking why was his son was sent on a cold journey alone. The lines written for the show are always so poetic. As for Wakizaka,I felt bad for him too when he was slapped by the Taiko - after speaking out and saying it was not honorable to go after YSS's family. ps - And I liked when the Ming general praised YSS.
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Post by florel on Oct 3, 2005 15:00:07 GMT -5
Also YSS crying at the end, saying in his thoughts that the sky no longer had color for him and asking why was his son was sent on a cold journey alone. The lines written for the show are always so poetic. Yeah, many script lines in the drama are very poetic and touching. Some lines come from YSS's Diary, others from "Song of Sword" (Kim Hun's novel) and others from the dramatists. Even though I was sometimes critical toward the IYSS writers, I have to say that IYSS is the first historical drama which made me teary many times. YSS's monologue in the end of Episode 97 comes from his own Diary. The dramatists added some poetic lines. < ... On the outside of the inner envelope were two characters "With Weeping". I at once understood the war death of Myun (YSS's youngest son). A chill struck into my heart and I mourned with a loud cry. "Heaven, why are thou so merciless ! My heart is going to burn and tear in pieces. I should die and you should live. That is the natural order ! Now you are dead and I am alive ! Why this calamity ! Out of order ! Heaven and earth become dark ; the sun has lost its light. Ah, sad ! My son, where have you gone, leaving me behind ? Is it because you are such an outstanding figure that heaven is not willing to leave you in this world, or because of my sin, that this great misfortune has befallen you ? Although I live in this world, on whom can I lean my heart ?" ... Nothing but tears. I cannot help but crying. ... > ( Nanjung Ilgi, YSS's Diary, 14th October 1597) BTW, I just find out that "Song of Sword" will be translated in French and will be published by Gallimard, a famous French publisher. There will be French, German and Japanese versions. Why no translation plan in English ? Gallimard to Publish `Son of Sword' in French
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Post by pakyownage4eva on Oct 4, 2005 7:45:28 GMT -5
I had a feeling that was directly from his diary. How beautifully tragic..
Does Myun really die like that? I thought he died as a navy soldier.
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Post by florel on Oct 4, 2005 14:04:41 GMT -5
I had a feeling that was directly from his diary. How beautifully tragic.. Does Myun really die like that? I thought he died as a navy soldier. I feel sorry for our Admiral. It's heartbreaking. On the 19th October 1597, he wrote that "In my dream at dawn, Chin, our servant, came from my country home, reminding me of my dead son, so I wept bitterly. ... At dusk I shed almost one doe (about three pints) of blood from my nose. Again I shed tears at night when I was thinking of my dead son. ..." YSS's sons and nephews often worked for YSS in the navy camp. But without an official title, so without salary. Yi Myun was killed by the Japanese when he fought against them in Asan, in late September 1597. The involvement of Wakisaka is a fiction. (Oh, he is an omnipresent man ! lol) Paky, I'll update the "History & Fiction" thread.
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Oct 4, 2005 20:59:22 GMT -5
my contempt for the writers of this series knows no bounds
what a travesty of artistic license
Myon was NOT killed by wakizaka. he was killed by a plain old garden variety japanese soldier who yi soon shin actually caught later and had killed.
(waves her arms in disgust) i suppose after everything, i should expect as much
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Post by Alexa on Oct 4, 2005 21:04:24 GMT -5
So much I want to say regarding this episode. Well first of I couldn't believe that the King called YSS an incompetent servant, and then he tells the Ming official that it was the Ming soldiers that made the Japanese retreat. Is the King an idiot?? Could he not see that it was because of YSS and the navy that the Japanese retreated? And why in the world was he questioning YSS motives for defending the country. I got so mad when that one Minister (cant remember his name) said that YSS was fighting hard to atone for his previous crimes? ATONE FOR HIS CRIMES, WHAT THE HELL IS HE TALKING ABOUT!? And to top it off the King agrees with him. Why couldn't the King see that the reason behind YSS defending the country was just that, defending the country and the people. I don't understand why he was so jealous of the fact that people practically worshipped the ground YSS walked on, I mean I didn't see the King doing anything to help. How it must've torn YSS heart to receive that pardon. How humiliating that after you've been labeled as a traitor, tortured and beaten you receive a pardon from "your crimes" when the man didn't have any crimes to begin with. Instead of the King recognizing YSS accomplishments he gives him a pardon. I'm so upset. And then after everything he's been through, just received that stupid pardon from the King, his son his killed. That was so sad. All his commanders were expecting him to look sad and in pain, but he didn't show any emotion, but inside he was falling apart. When he said "I'm not the only father that has lost a son to this war" I almost cried. I mean it's true, so many young men died, fathers, sons, uncles, cousins, and he knows that. But that doesn't make the pain less bearable. The scene of him by the ocean, crying out was so heartbreaking I am glad to have Kim Wan back.
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Post by velvet inkbrush of YiSoonShin on Oct 4, 2005 21:12:35 GMT -5
oh yeah almost forgot about that YAY kim wan is back WAHHHH Dae man left, well at least that's ONE character that didn;t die and welcome back Lt Na Dae Yong!
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Post by ginnycat5 on Oct 4, 2005 21:59:31 GMT -5
So much I want to say regarding this episode. Well first of I couldn't believe that the King called YSS an incompetent servant, and then he tells the Ming official that it was the Ming soldiers that made the Japanese retreat. Is the King an idiot?? Could he not see that it was because of YSS and the navy that the Japanese retreated? And why in the world was he questioning YSS motives for defending the country. I got so mad when that one Minister (cant remember his name) said that YSS was fighting hard to atone for his previous crimes? ATONE FOR HIS CRIMES, WHAT THE HELL IS HE TALKING ABOUT!? And to top it off the King agrees with him. Why couldn't the King see that the reason behind YSS defending the country was just that, defending the country and the people. I don't understand why he was so jealous of the fact that people practically worshipped the ground YSS walked on, I mean I didn't see the King doing anything to help. How it must've torn YSS heart to receive that pardon. How humiliating that after you've been labeled as a traitor, tortured and beaten you receive a pardon from "your crimes" when the man didn't have any crimes to begin with. Instead of the King recognizing YSS accomplishments he gives him a pardon. I'm so upset. I am glad to have Kim Wan back. Yes, the king is an idiot or mentally unbalanced. I was thinking that what he needs is an arrow in the throat or a cup of poison, he is so harmful to the country and disloyal to his best admiral. (too bloodthirsty, sorry, but he really steams me.) He is just all wound up in his own thoughts and fears and jealousy of YSS. That minister Yu (?) was disgusting. Also, yay, Kim Wan!
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Post by Eowyn on Oct 5, 2005 8:45:34 GMT -5
and welcome back Lt Na Dae Yong! ah yes, it was like the sunlight breaking through the clouds to see Lt. Na's face again! YSS was so happy! I wish the "Master Duduel looking" officer would come back too.
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Post by kathleen34 on Oct 5, 2005 9:04:16 GMT -5
emotionally charged... big time. :)The joy of Kim's return, the utter frustration of Waki... :-[Ming's prais of YSS to the clueless duffus king.... t >:(he duffus king wallowing in his own pride :'(solitary tears of the Admiral as he contemplates his son's death. joy - sorrow - frustration - anger we will all truly miss these 'warriors' when this series ends.
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Post by florel unlogged on Oct 5, 2005 9:16:37 GMT -5
I wish the "Master Duduel looking" officer would come back too. Eowyn, I'm sorry that I have to tell you a bad news. The late Magistrate Shin Ho died in the Battle of Namwon on the 16th August, one month earlier than the Battle of Myungryang (16th September 1597). So we will not and cannot see him again in the drama. I wrote about his biography and the Battle of Namwon in other threads.
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Post by roxelanahybrida on Oct 5, 2005 9:59:07 GMT -5
This episode was beautiful. These last couple of episodes have just been getting better and better. With regards to Wakizaka, last night was the first time that he actually seemed like a real person. He's usually so over the top and kind of campy(the whole thing with the cat was a perfect example-typical bad guy cliche) but seeing him get humiliated by Hideoshi and his reluctance to attack YSS's home town gave him a little more complexity as a character.
And I loved the look on the king's face when the Ming general called YSS the hero of the century.That was priceless. ;D
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Post by pakyownage4eva on Oct 5, 2005 10:20:48 GMT -5
Admiral Yi bled 3 pints of blood through his nose???
His life was a struggle to the end...very few outside his navy trusted him; he was always a polemical subject in the royal court.
I liked this episode...because Admiral Yi's mourning was beautiful and also there was some character development for Wakizaka. Up to now, he was just an evil general like the rest, maybe except Konishi, who's quite adept at cackling and throwing cats, but with his refusal to give Yi a "low blow," he has shown that he is not so bad a man. If they show his death, I definately would feel pity for him.
I don't think the king was just being an idiot, he was also being unctuous to the Chinese guy as a political motive to stay on their good side.
But yes, one can only imagine how frustrated Yi must have felt throughout his entire career. On top of that, the enemy took his son, how forlorn he must have been..
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Post by moreshige unlogged on Oct 5, 2005 11:31:23 GMT -5
the king had the unfounded fear that YSS might take over the throne....which can "explain" his delusion.
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