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Post by TheBo on Aug 23, 2005 16:42:57 GMT -5
Dearest Trespasser, you can certainly argue with someone who believes they are telling the truth--sometimes, they are simply wrong. Other times, they have a drum to beat so they only tell the part of the story that supports them. Even truth has its permutations.
Bo
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Post by JPh on Aug 23, 2005 17:26:07 GMT -5
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Post by MasterCrabby on Aug 23, 2005 20:50:49 GMT -5
"Expecting a Japanese broadcaster to broadcast YSS is like expecting a US network to show a Mexican drama about the Mexico-US war where the coldblooded Yankee troops just march in and clear the land by shooting all the Mexicans in sight. "
By the same token, hadn't the Europeans running Mexico gotten to that point by the cruelest of conquests? Should you want to rationalize brutality, it has been manifested on many histories.
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Post by skinz on Aug 24, 2005 10:15:52 GMT -5
I think you are complaining about Kuroda, not new age, right skinz? Because I don't see anything wrong with new age's remarks (except that he missed Fred's subtle sarcasm). I was responding to this part of New Age comment. But he should understand that this is a korean drama. It is meant to show korean history, instead of reflecting on japans own.Yes, this is a korean drama and Korean drama should broadcast its own history and rightly so, but new age is saying that since this show is about Korean history the other nations historical relationship with Korea during the war is not important and that's where I disagreed. The writers could have easily focused only on Korea instead of showing Hideyoshi in Japan, Togukawa in Japan, or Korean envoys going to Ming China. But the writers decided to put scenes in Japan and Ming to better understand what was going on in those nations during the war. Unfortunately, when you are illustrating what was happening in the other countries without the full attention to details, that is where most people will start criticizing like Mr. Kuroda.
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Post by BungalowDweller on Aug 24, 2005 15:11:16 GMT -5
With all due respect to the people of Japan--does anyone really Care if IYSS is a hit in Japan? It's akin to airing the film "One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich" (based upon the book of the same name written by the venerable Alexsander Solzhenitsyn) in the former Soviet Union. People generally don't want to look upon themselves/their nation as the "bad guys". And they don't want to learn anything that is contrary to long-cherished opinions, even if they are hog-wash.
There will be those in Japan who seek the program out if it is released on DVD. And all the negative reviews bring an opposite effect--people may want to see it simply because it's controversial.
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Post by pjh on Aug 26, 2005 4:06:42 GMT -5
It seems like Kuroda has been ignored by the public. Comments he made were quite minor. The facts that the picture hung behind Hideyoshi was not a correct one and Japanese generals looked like cartoon-characters are not even a serious matter compared to the fact that YSS won every battles against Japanese. Kuroda's comments should be kept to himself. It seems like Korean public thought it was ridiculous for Kuroda to say such things. I think Kuroda doesn't like the fact that Japanese navy was wiped out by YSS. The evidence is that he didn't make any comments on BATTLE SCENES. I'm worried that Japanese don't teach young students about YSS in a great depth. I'm also worried that Japanese extremists might distort the history about YSS like they make history textbooks that contain how they were justified to start the war(excluding any facts about what Japanese did to innocent people)
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Post by TheBo on Aug 26, 2005 11:21:23 GMT -5
pjh, I assume you are not the same person as JPh? Unless it's you, on a different computer, JPh? If not, pjh, do you think you could possibly choose a different sign-in name so people don't get confused between the two of you. (JPh was here first, that's why I'm asking you.)
Thanks in advance.
Bo
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Post by black sheep on Aug 26, 2005 16:27:36 GMT -5
I think Kuroda doesn't like the fact that Japanese navy was wiped out by YSS. The evidence is that he didn't make any comments on BATTLE SCENES. I'm worried that Japanese don't teach young students about YSS in a great depth. I'm also worried that Japanese extremists might distort the history about YSS like they make history textbooks that contain how they were justified to start the war(excluding any facts about what Japanese did to innocent people) Obviously Kuroda is just another loud mouthed right wing emperialistic nut. These people and the Japanese government will argue to the last point to save face for their country's so called nonagressive reputation. pjh you have every right to worry as Japanese youth are as you say,not learning history as should be. I dont know if they teach about Yi soon shin history or not. But my guess is that they would say something like, he probably was just a ship merchant and that the Korean military got lucky because he help supply them with cannons,or something like that. The real problem with the Japanese government,is that it refuses to agnoledge its wrong doings,so instead of facing it,japan chooses instead to hide it. It will always be scorned by some countries for that fact.
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Post by pakyownage4eva on Aug 26, 2005 19:30:55 GMT -5
It seems like Kuroda has been ignored by the public. Comments he made were quite minor. The facts that the picture hung behind Hideyoshi was not a correct one and Japanese generals looked like cartoon-characters are not even a serious matter compared to the fact that YSS won every battles against Japanese. Kuroda's comments should be kept to himself. It seems like Korean public thought it was ridiculous for Kuroda to say such things. I think Kuroda doesn't like the fact that Japanese navy was wiped out by YSS. The evidence is that he didn't make any comments on BATTLE SCENES. I'm worried that Japanese don't teach young students about YSS in a great depth. I'm also worried that Japanese extremists might distort the history about YSS like they make history textbooks that contain how they were justified to start the war(excluding any facts about what Japanese did to innocent people) well, world history classes in the US don't say anything about Yi Sun Shin. I think he's kinda lucky to at least get mentioned..
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Post by Cool on Aug 28, 2005 20:29:00 GMT -5
Exactly why most Japanese journalists are morons.
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Post by Trespasser on Aug 28, 2005 21:50:24 GMT -5
Kuroda is right. YSS is distorted beyond an acceptable level, down to the final scene. It was just unbearable to watch.
The script writer must be shot for this f*** up.
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