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Post by Aging Warrior on Feb 20, 2005 11:24:25 GMT -5
Once again Won Kyun comes through for YSS while Yu Sung Ryong fails him. Remember when YSS was getting in trouble in Seoul and Won Kyun wanted to help him out but Sung Ryong told Kyun that YSS needed to learn to get by on his own.  Actually, I expect Sung Ryong will ask that YSS have the right to explain what happened to the King before he dies. The King will agree and, after YSS tells what happened, the King will refuse to allow him to kill himself. The east ministers will then nod happily and the west ministers will scowl. Does east vs west just indicate what side of the King they sit on? Or is it regional? The battle was heartbreaking. They writers did a good job making life in that fort seem real. Do the lines that YSS wrote in his cell about his men appear in his memoirs? Let's not forget the most important question: What's going to happen to poor Chun-su? I expect that Hong is going to pull out the drawings of forts she made in an earlier episode. Very convenient. |
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Post by MasterCrabby on Feb 20, 2005 12:12:49 GMT -5
My guess is that Sung Ryong knows his favor in the court is in question, and that he assumed to dismiss the saving of YSS' life may seperate the issue from factional politics, giving a better chance for honest review. I don't see why the big general didn't go to bat for him. He didn't get killed, did he?  |
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Post by florel on Feb 20, 2005 20:02:03 GMT -5
Does east vs west just indicate what side of the King they sit on? Or is it regional? About East and West parties, a little bit historical explanation is needed. In early 16th century, neo-confucianists confronted conservative aristocratic clans and made an attempt of a radical reform. But reformers were purged in 1519 (Kimyo Sawha ; The grandfather of YSS died involving in this political incident). The conservative clan lost their power with the advent of king Seonjo (our ass king in the show) in 1567. The new royal sovereign took neo-confucian reformers into government service. But they were splited into East and West parties in 1575. The division had its origin in a conflict over governmental posts, but it developped into political and philosophical division of the whole neo-confucianists. They were named "East Man" and "West Man" because their first leaders lived each in the eastern and in the western part of Seoul. It's difficult to explain their long complicated history. I don't think you would be interested in head-breaking metaphysical debates of neo-confucianists.  I only would like to roughly define their features as follows : - West party : old generations with less rigorous attitude to conservative clans, disciples of famous confucianist Yi Yi. - East party : young generations, more radical against conservative clans, disciples of famous confucianist Yi Hwang (Yu Sung-Ryong's master in the show) |
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Post by florel on Feb 20, 2005 20:07:04 GMT -5
I don't see why the big general didn't go to bat for him. He didn't get killed, did he? Who is the big general ? Do you refer to the minister of military (the old fat man) ? |
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Post by ID on Feb 20, 2005 20:09:12 GMT -5
I think he was referring to the Constable, who helped Yi Soon Shin try to reinforce Nok-Dune.
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Post by florel on Feb 20, 2005 20:24:05 GMT -5
I think he was referring to the Constable, who helped Yi Soon Shin try to reinforce Nok-Dune. He is in prison with YSS. |
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Post by Aging Warrior on Feb 21, 2005 15:43:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the explination of east vs west florel. It's difficult to explain their long complicated history. I don't think you would be interested in head-breaking metaphysical debates of neo-confucianists. Actually if I had more time in my life, I would. |
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Post by Kyung DaeSeung on Feb 21, 2005 20:11:06 GMT -5
Were the two subordinates under Yi killed at the Battle of Nok-Dune?
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Post by Aging Warrior on Feb 21, 2005 22:25:08 GMT -5
Were the two subordinates under Yi killed at the Battle of Nok-Dune? One died during the battle. The other died later while YSS was tend ing to him. |
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Post by Eowyn on Feb 25, 2005 19:27:35 GMT -5
The battle was heartbreaking. They writers did a good job making life in that fort seem real. I just watched episode 33 on tape. Yes, it was so heartbreaking seeing the men watch their comrades fall. And the music and slow motion...  |
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