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Post by TheBo on Nov 30, 2004 10:26:23 GMT -5
Silly me. I found out why I've been only getting the first 25 minutes of every episode since the beginning of November, but lots of tape of people singing and travelogues. Daily Savings Time changed, but the clock on my TV recorder did not. (I had assumed it was automatic.) And since I'm so far behind, I did not know it until this weekend.
Fortunately, I was able to get it to tape the last episode THIS morning. If they played it. Sigh.
Anyway, a question about Episode 10. In the beginning of it, Yoon's superior General was trying to figure out who finked their plans. They questioned a young man, whom I thought was Lt. Jo, the General's son. He killed himself by smashing his head into a wall (no wimpy cyanide pills for these guys, huh). Afterward, I remembered that Jo was already dead before the General and Yoon were jailed. So, who was that guy?
Also, I seem to have missed the part where the head training officer was betrayed and killed. The King and the General seemed really upset about it, and that was one of the things that Chae-ok reported to the king when he almost had her killed. What was that about?
Anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.
Bo
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Post by hachiue on Nov 30, 2004 12:00:07 GMT -5
Ur, that guy was in the police force and he was a spy from the rebel horde, along with some other guy who they put in a superior (captain?) position to keep an eye on and feed misinformation and apparently a third - the one who betrayed the general (unless that was actually the 2nd). He was definitely not Lt. Jo/Choi? but was some random spy guy.
That's all I know. I'm drawing a blank on the head training officer.
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Post by TheBo on Nov 30, 2004 14:36:41 GMT -5
Thanks, hachuie, for that much. I can't remember the exact phrase they used to describe the "head training officer"--they recite a list, "I lost [this officer], 150 soldiers and my son," says the General. "I lost [the officer] and 150 soldiers," says the King. It seemed like some assassins had broken in somewhere and killed him.
Bo
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Post by hachiue on Nov 30, 2004 14:39:26 GMT -5
Well, his son and all the soldiers were lost when they attacked the rebel hideout - they were lured into traps and slaughtered by the evil rebels - Seung-baek even pretended to be a wounded policeman in the river to lure them to their deaths. I guess that was when the head training officer was lost - oh, yesh, I believe that he was perhaps the head of the tiger squad.
It was very gory.
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Post by Alexa on Nov 30, 2004 14:41:47 GMT -5
I think you're talking about the Military Training Officer (can't remember his name). He committed suicide. He was falsely accused of being involved in the counterfeit coins. He was actually set up by SungBaek and the Left Prime Minister in order to get rid of him.
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Post by TheBo on Nov 30, 2004 14:48:35 GMT -5
Yes! Military Training Officer! Thanks, Alexa and hachuie.
You know I love you guys. Sniff. ;D
Bo
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Post by Alexa on Nov 30, 2004 14:53:18 GMT -5
SungBaek had sent a phony letter to the Military Training Officer, regarding the counterfeit coins. Chae-ok took the letter from the messenger and read it. (I think that was SungBaeks plan all along) Then Chae-ok and Yoon raided his house and found a plate to make counterfeit coins in the training officer's home.
The King and the Military training officer had known each other for years. When the Military Training Officer was arrested for the counterfeit coins, he was going to be tortured but the King stepped in and didn't allow the torture to start. The Training Officer was loyal to the King 100%, so I guess he felt horrible that someone would consider him a traitor so he committed suicide.
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Post by TheBo on Nov 30, 2004 15:02:15 GMT -5
Oh, Alexa, that's so sad! Now I have to go cry. No really, I'm not joking, it's pitiful. I hate stuff like that. It always makes me cry.
Bo
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Post by Alexa on Nov 30, 2004 15:04:01 GMT -5
You're telling me about crying? Did I forget to mention I was bawling after the last episode?? BAWLING!!!  |
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Post by FlowerLady on Nov 30, 2004 21:30:20 GMT -5
The group fight scene was a virtual bloodbath.  (guess I'm a wimp!) |
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Post by FlowerLady on Nov 30, 2004 21:52:25 GMT -5
Oh, Alexa, that's so sad! Now I have to go cry. No really, I'm not joking, it's pitiful. I hate stuff like that. It always makes me cry. Bo For me, this was a very emotional drama to watch, especially as we started to care about the main characters. Life during that era was so difficult and rigid and the violence was often swift, brutal and so final. It is hard for me to imagine living in such ruthlessness and often callous inhumanity. |
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Post by hachiue on Dec 1, 2004 14:45:47 GMT -5
If only they had chocolate. ;D
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Post by FlowerLady on Dec 1, 2004 21:43:54 GMT -5
If only they had chocolate. ;D ;D ;D ;D --Is chocolate part of the traditional Korean diet at all? (chocolate kimchee, chocolate bulkogi, chocolate chap chae, etc.) --Just kidding.  I love Korean food (it's actually my absolute favorite), but I have to say, I've never seen chocolate mentioned on any Korean menu. Now that I think of it, desserts are seldom more than sliced fruits, a stick of chewing gum, a piece of candy. This is no doubt why nearly every Korean woman I have seen has an excellent figure......they are probably not eating lots of sweets and rich desserts. .......Hmmmmmm, maybe I could be Korean in my next lifetime....... |
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Post by Alexa on Dec 2, 2004 12:46:42 GMT -5
Life during that era was so difficult and rigid and the violence was often swift, brutal and so final. It is hard for me to imagine living in such ruthlessness and often callous inhumanity. The sad thing is that there are people in countries that live amidst violence, brutality and inhumane conditions every single day. No matter how bad we think we have it here, or what we go through, we have truly been blessed in this country. We might not agree on political views, or how things are handled here in the U.S., but we have it pretty easy here. According to today's society, I am not even considered middle-class, but I have a job and enough to feed my family and put clothes on my back and for that I'm grateful. |
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Post by FlowerLady on Dec 4, 2004 19:58:55 GMT -5
The sad thing is that there are people in countries that live amidst violence, brutality and inhumane conditions every single day. No matter how bad we think we have it here, or what we go through, we have truly been blessed in this country. We might not agree on political views, or how things are handled here in the U.S., but we have it pretty easy here. According to today's society, I am not even considered middle-class, but I have a job and enough to feed my family and put clothes on my back and for that I'm grateful. Alexa, what you are saying is absolutely, sadly true. I have heard that 1 out of 4 American children goes to bed hungry each night. That is a thought that has always been disturbing to me, as well. |
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I love Korean food (it's actually my absolute favorite), but I have to say, I've never seen chocolate mentioned on any Korean menu. Now that I think of it, desserts are seldom more than sliced fruits, a stick of chewing gum, a piece of candy. This is no doubt why nearly every Korean woman I have seen has an excellent figure......they are probably not eating lots of sweets and rich desserts.