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Post by 4everFan on Nov 23, 2004 13:46:19 GMT -5
Is Sung Baek and Chae-ok in-love? It seems gross. Why they want to write the drama like this? Is she ever ever ever going to find out he is her brother? I have too many questions in my mine. I really want to know the ending and can't wait for Fri an Sat esp. If someone already watch this drama, give me some hint about how they going to end. I am so curious to find out. By the way, Is Sung Baek going to die without knowing Chae-ok is his sister?  |
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Post by TheBo on Nov 23, 2004 14:33:27 GMT -5
No, we have already posted a "no spoiler" policy on this board, so there'd better not be any hints about the ending. You'll just have to wait and see.
By the way, I'm only at episode 4 or 5, but didn't Chae-ok already discover that Sung-bae is her brother, or could be? She recognized the sword and writing when the old man gave it to him. Maybe you are interpreting their camaraderie as something more, because of our cultural bias against friendships between men and women.
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Post by hachiue on Nov 23, 2004 14:50:13 GMT -5
No, we have already posted a "no spoiler" policy on this board, so there'd better not be any hints about the ending. You'll just have to wait and see. By the way, I'm only at episode 4 or 5, but didn't Chae-ok already discover that Sung-bae is her brother, or could be? She recognized the sword and writing when the old man gave it to him. Maybe you are interpreting their camaraderie as something more, because of our cultural bias against friendships between men and women. Bo Hee hee, to my constant consternation, neither of them really seem to know they're related. However, the writers seem to enjoy ever so much putting in little hints that they just might know, or at least find out in the future. Oh, and though they might be in love, hopefully they're not really in love. Just, you know, in like. Tarnation. |
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Post by TheBo on Nov 23, 2004 14:56:21 GMT -5
...Oh, and though they might be in love, hopefully they're not really in love. Just, you know, in like. Ooh, eugh! Eugh! I hate that! It just icks me out. And are they stupid? How does she think he got the sword? And he was muttering "father! father!" as he looked at it! Geez!!!! Bo |
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Post by hachiue on Nov 23, 2004 15:05:26 GMT -5
Wait, maybe I missed something, but I thought that she didn't recognize the sword as her father's?
All I got from that scene was that she recognized the poem/crest thingie on the piece of paper and thought that maybe he was her brother, but then decided that he couldn't be when he said that his father was alive.
Seriously, I don't know why they're both being so closed-mouthed about their family histories - except for the idea that maybe they both do know that they're related but they don't want to confirm it because they're in love and that would just be gross and devastating. But less devastating now than later, I guess. Kind of the self-denial thing when everyone else sees it but you don't because you don't want to.
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Post by TheBo on Nov 23, 2004 15:17:09 GMT -5
...Seriously, I don't know why they're both being so closed-mouthed about their family histories - except for the idea that maybe they both do know that they're related but they don't want to confirm it because they're in love and that would just be gross and devastating.... AAAAAAAH! ICK! AIGU! Give me some WATER! Bo |
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Post by Alexa on Nov 23, 2004 15:44:59 GMT -5
Seriously, I don't know why they're both being so closed-mouthed about their family histories - except for the idea that maybe they both do know that they're related but they don't want to confirm it because they're in love and that would just be gross and devastating. No, I don't think they know that they are related. And I don't think SungBaek would be in denial, especially because he seems so desperate to find his long lost sister. And I don't think Chae-ok recognized the sword, I think she recognized the piece of paper because they showed her remembering her father and that piece of paper. Anyways it is horrible that they are related, because I keep wishing that they would end up together and then I have to remind myself that they are brother and sister and I get grossed out. I wished they hadn't made the storyline like that. I wish it was just a regular love triangle. |
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Post by hachiue on Nov 24, 2004 8:59:24 GMT -5
See, I don't want them to get together. I am actually a bit sad whenever they show scenes of them falling for each other. I just want them to find out their real relationship because I think it would make both of them a lot happier to finally find family - it seems that family would be a really important part of their lives and that it's something that they're both constantly reaching for but never finding. I think that's actually part of the reason that Sung-baek is trying to start a rebellion - he's making the people of Korea his family, and Chae-ok made the police force her family. Neither of those are as constant as a real family though.
Anyway, I want them to at least have one scene together as brother and sister before one/both of them die(s).
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Post by Alexa on Nov 24, 2004 9:05:08 GMT -5
Yep, that's true, they've both had a hard life. Orphans at a young age, they were thrown into a life that they didn't choose. Life turned SungBaek into what he is today. Remember he said "People don't think of treason from birth." It's so sad to think that there was a period of time where social class was everything and poor people were treated like crap, nobody cared for them.
You couldn't marry the person you loved because of social differences, so so sad.
If Chae-ok and SungBaek found out they were brother/sister and united in SungBaeks cause, they would be invincible. I just feel horrible that SungBaek is being taken advantage off. That old traitor doesn't want to make things better. He doesn't want to help the common people. He wants the power all to himself. He is being driven by greed and power, not by love for the people of Chosun.
I wonder if they will find out they are related before it's too late. If they don't and one of them dies I swear I will cry my little heart out!! I keep thinking of Episode 1, where they show both of them fighting and one of them gets stabbed.
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Post by hachiue on Nov 24, 2004 11:58:40 GMT -5
My ideal ending:
King recognizes Chae-ok and Sung-baek for their services - he tried to change a bad government idealistically (like the archfiend or whatever) and she performed many civic services as a damo. So he elevates them to their former station. Oh yes and they know they're related.
Yoon gets butt kicked and Chae-ok dumps him for some hot court guy - maybe roly-poly gets all cute and manly for her and she realizes that she loves him back. Yoon tries to marry Nanhui but she decides that Sung-baek is way hotter and marries him instead.
Yoon ends up alone and shivering and cold and sad. Everyone else lives happily ever after, singing tra-la-la.
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Post by Alexa on Nov 24, 2004 12:01:41 GMT -5
Yoon gets butt kicked and Chae-ok dumps him for some hot court guy - maybe roly-poly gets all cute and manly for her and she realizes that she loves him back. Yoon tries to marry Nanhui but she decides that Sung-baek is way hotter and marries him instead. That is to funny!  And SungBaek is way hotter!!!!! |
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Post by ID on Nov 24, 2004 20:47:55 GMT -5
Ooh, eugh! Eugh! I hate that! It just icks me out. And are they stupid? How does she think he got the sword? And he was muttering "father! father!" as he looked at it! Geez!!!! Bo Bo, I never saw "Damo", as WMBC is too cheap to air it in New York, but, I do check in to this board, to see what I am {and most likely, will forever be} missing. Anyway, from the topic of this thread, I see that the people {that watched the show} have deduced that these two characters, {that supposedly love each other}, are siblings, and are therefore, commiting incest. Now, since I have not seen this show, I cannot confirm this, in anyway. However, seeing how generally liberal the members of this board are, I am suprised that you {meaning those of you, that have posted in this thread} seem so disgusted by the fact that these two love eachother. Now, from what I can infer, by reading the posts in this particular board, these two characters, do not know that they are, {if they really are}, siblings. Now, as viewers, you can easily observe, that they are idiots, for not knowing they are of the same blood, and for loving eachother. But, since it seems that neither of them know that, and they both love eachother, I don't see any problem with that. Now, I will admit, that I am not the nicest person alive. in fact I can be a complete jerk. In my lifetime, I have said mean things. I have said many ethnic jokes. And in fact, most people who I am around with {who are of all different cultures, and backrounds} take it well, and in turn say there own jokes. Now, as a JEW {yes. that's right. I am the scum of this earth. blah blah blah, get on with your lives} who grew up in Liberty, New York {untill 8th grade}, and later, Monticello {for the last 9 or so years} I have grown to not only be immune to the one-hundred-trillion jokes there are, against jews, but I learned to laugh at myself. Now, on to the important part of this paragraph, I remember,a couple years,back, I was with a few friends, and you know, we were just talking, and laughing. And, then suddenly, I remember this hilarious joke that someone told me before, that is aimed at homosexuals, and I will never forget. You see, with us, was a girl, who I had known since I moved to this town, who is, an open-lesbian. Everyone was silent. My girlfriend {at the time}, gave me a punch on my arm, and suddenly, a million thought starting going through my head. I apoligized to that girl later on, in case anyone was wondering. Now, the moral of this story is, that if it is wrong, and evil to say something against one group, then why is it OK, for you guys to bash these two, who may or my not be siblings, for loving eachother. It is hypercritical of you. - Oded PS- Yes, that is my real name. It is a common masculine Israeli name meaning "Strength" or some crap like that. Try to imagine having to explain this to everyone you meet. PPS- Yes, I have used the name "Tom" here before, since I used it to sign up. And I didn't want to look like an idiot by changing my name. |
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Post by TheBo on Nov 26, 2004 9:10:11 GMT -5
Now, the moral of this story is, that if it is wrong, and evil to say something against one group, then why is it OK, for you guys to bash these two, who may or my not be siblings, for loving eachother. It is hypercritical of you. - Oded PS- Yes, that is my real name. It is a common masculine Israeli name meaning "Strength" or some crap like that. Try to imagine having to explain this to everyone you meet. Oded (and what the heck is wrong with that? I happen to LIKE unusual names, and believe me, yours is not that odd), I can see your point, but I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. First, they are clearly brother and sister. Second, I don't think they actually have a physical relationship, but they are heading to a "love" relationship, so I don't think that's technically incest. Third, it isn't that they DON'T know--it's that we DO know they are siblings that is grossing us out. I think it's meant to do that. Here they are, two good people, falling into a relationship with each other that will completely disgust them if and when they find out about it. It's not just disgust on our part for the idea of the thing, it's our pain on their behalf when they finally find out. Does that make sense? Because they have to find out, otherwise why put it into the drama at all? It will be (or should be, for how these characters are written) cataclysmic for them to find out they re siblings. We're not being hypocritical. We're being sympathetic with the characters' plight. Personally, I hate that the writers are doing this, because I don't see any reason they cannot form a deep friendship and "brotherly" camaraderie and then find out they are siblings, and it all would still be good. Why does every single male/female relationship have to have sexual overtones? Even if you think that they're always there, every deep relationship does not develop into "love." I think the writers are being lazy on this aspect of the drama. Bo |
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Post by ID on Nov 26, 2004 9:29:18 GMT -5
I guess I misunderstood this. It is most likely that the writers wanted to "spice up" the show.
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Post by TheBo on Nov 26, 2004 11:18:09 GMT -5
I guess I misunderstood this. It is most likely that the writers wanted to "spice up" the show. I think you're right, and I also think it's a lazy way to do it. I hope you get to see this one, though, because it's quite good (other than that). Maybe you could rent it... Bo |
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