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Post by Knov1 on Nov 22, 2004 7:54:24 GMT -5
Those were some confrontations in eps. 11 & 12. First there was the confrontation between Yoon & Sung Baek in ep. 11. In ep. 12, during the search for Chae ok and Sung Baek, there's the confrontation with the rebel soldiers. And Chaeok throws herself at the rebels to save Sung Baek. Just when you think things have taken a turn for the worse, it's Capt. Yi to the rescue. I like the scene between Chae Ok and Yoon at the end of ep. 12. That's one of my favorite scenes from Damo. Chae ok openly admits that she has feelings for Sung Baek. Also, I taped ep. 12 and the running was about 1hr 2mins. However, the episode is actually about an 1hr 17mins. long. That means that about 15mins worth of the episode was edited out. So what was edited out? Mostly scenes involving General Jo. The scene with him talking to the King was edited and made shorter. There were other scenes involving him and his daughter, Nan Hee, that were completely edited out of the episode. I guess they felt those scenes weren't important but, in a way, they help explain why he contemplated committing suicide.
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Post by Alexa on Nov 22, 2004 8:34:34 GMT -5
At the end of Episode 12, Lt. Yoon tells Chae-ok that he is going to take her away to his mother's house so they can live together. So now he wants to be with her? Now he is willing to leave everything behind for her? It makes me wonder, is he doing it because he truly loves her or because he can't stand the fact that she is in love with his enemy? I mean why didn't he ever ask her that before? In one of the previous episodes he had said something like "you can forget about me with anybody else, just not SungBaek." To late now, cause Chae-ok doesn't want him. It's true what they say, you don't know what you have until you've lost it! And what was so amazing about SungBaek was that he was willing to leave everything for Chae-ok for the love he had for her. He said that he had never wanted to put down his sword, never feared until he first laid eyes on Chae-ok. He told Chae-ok his true feelings for her, it didn't take him years and years like Lt. Yoon. I think that's why Chae-ok fell for SungBaek. Here was a man that truly loved her, and told her exactly how he felt for her without wasting time. Oh and the scene where she falls asleep with him, and then SungBaek wakes up, that was so beautiful. The way he looks at her so tenderly and strokes her face softly , that was just so touching. I keep forgetting they are brother and sister! Also, I don't remember if it was Episode 11 or 12, but SungBaek is telling Chae-ok about a 7 year old girl that was dragged away before his very own eyes. Later on I think he does mention that little girl being his sister, and him not knowing her whereabouts. I thought for sure Chae-ok was going to discover that SungBaek was her brother. But of course she didn't. My heart was beating so fast, cause I'm thinking, okay he mentioned a 7year old girl, Chae-ok has to start asking herself questions, but of course she didn't. And once again I screamed at the tv!
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Post by hachiue on Nov 22, 2004 10:00:34 GMT -5
I didn't scream until he asked her what her name was and she didn't answer until he was unconscious and she was digging out of the cave. They're so frustrating!
I hate how hypocritical Lt. Yoon is. I don't think that he's really in love with her because he's so selfish! He wanted to keep her around him even when it was bad for both of them, until he was ordered to send her away. He arrested her for getting "captured" to allow a trade for Sung-baek, and he even would have allowed the rebels to kill her rather than give him up? But after all that, he tells her that he loves her and wants to run away with her? I have lost all respect for him because it seems like he's operating only out of jealousy and selfishness.
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Post by Alexa on Nov 22, 2004 10:12:17 GMT -5
He arrested her for getting "captured" to allow a trade for Sung-baek, and he even would have allowed the rebels to kill her rather than give him up? And remember he also told "scarface" that they needed to capture SungBaek even if it meant killing Chae-ok. How crazy is that? He's only asking Chae-ok to be with him, because of pride and jealousy. Well he does have feelings for her, but the driving force behind him wanting to be with Chae-ok now is definetely not love. I don't like him either. On the other hand I LOVE SungBaek. I was so emotional when he was telling Chae-ok that all he wanted was a family and a field, and that even if he died he would never forget her. You know who else touched my heart? The Captain that exchanged Chae-ok for SungBaek. He is so fatherly towards her. He was willing to face whatever consequence in order to save Chae-ok. And to see how much the slave guy that went with Chae-ok cares for her is so touching. I just feel bad cause everybody is always putting him down and pushing him around.
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Post by JEnny on Nov 22, 2004 14:00:33 GMT -5
What i don't get is are Jung-hui and Seong-baek like brother and sister? Because that would mean that she's in love with her brother. What's the relationship between them two?
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Post by Alexa on Nov 22, 2004 14:05:04 GMT -5
They're in love with each other but they don't know that they are brother and sister. The last time they saw each other he was 14, she was 7. They were fleeing from the soldiers who were trying to capture them. (they tried to capture their father but he committed suicide.) Both Chae-ok and Sung-baek were on a horse, Chae-ok fell, Sung-baek was picked up by one of his father's servant and was able to get away, Chae-ok was taken to be a slave. Both of them changed their names and it has been 16 years since they saw each other.
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Post by Choko on Nov 22, 2004 15:40:47 GMT -5
There are a lot of favorite scenes in episoce 11~12. "What's your name?" "Are you crazy? Did you take the poison?" "I was not far-sighted enough to think of the hurt in my mouth. It's better to leave rather than to be left. ....Don't look at me like that. It is not your fault" "I'm sorry for leaving you alone. I love you... (sobbing) In the life to come, never let us meet again, never..." "Chae-ok... (shaking her head no) ...Jae-hee... Jang Jae-hee... That is my name..." "Open your eyes... please.... You said you wanna see a new world. You said you wanna live with me. I didn't answer you yet. Please... open your eyes. I love you, too... Please... open your eyes.... Go out with me... live with me... Like you, I'm also exhausted to be left alone. Don't go... Don't go.... Noooo.... (sobbing) pictures from home.paran.com/5043/damo/9_1.htmhome.paran.com/5043/damo/10_1.htmhome.paran.com/5043/damo/10_2.htm
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Post by Alexa on Nov 22, 2004 16:01:19 GMT -5
I'm about to start crying here!
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Post by hachiue on Nov 22, 2004 16:15:20 GMT -5
What i don't get is are Jung-hui and Seong-baek like brother and sister? Because that would mean that she's in love with her brother. What's the relationship between them two? Yes they are, but I'm getting around the ick factor by thinking that they have a pure love, the type symbolized by aphrodite ouranaia in greek mythology (I isn't a dork) - that's the closest approximation to a definition that I can come to. It's heavenly, not physical, and so fine between a brother and sister.
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Post by Alexa on Nov 22, 2004 16:19:26 GMT -5
Yes they are, but I'm getting around the ick factor by thinking that they have a pure love, the type symbolized by aphrodite ouranaia in greek mythology don't think I'm dumb but what does that mean? I feel horrible because I want SungBaek and Chae-ok to end up together and then I have to remind myself that they are related.
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Post by hachiue on Nov 22, 2004 16:23:02 GMT -5
You're not! I was being a dork (as my parenthetical aside stated).
Aphrodite Ouranaia is the earlier form of Aphrodite in Greek myth, born of Ouranos's seed that spilled into the ocean - Aphrodite born of the sea foam. She is the one who symbolizes heavenly, pure love (Ouranos is the god of the heavens whose wife was Gaia). Aphrodite Pandemos is the Aphrodite that is the sister of Zeus, born in the plain old boring way from Chronos and Rhea. She symbolizes physical love, which is (according to the philosophers) dirty dirty dirty.
I think that they can end up together - not in a relationship sense. But isn't being brother and sister closer than being lovers?
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Post by Alexa on Nov 22, 2004 16:29:10 GMT -5
Rhea. She symbolizes physical love, which is (according to the philosophers) dirty dirty dirty. I think that they can end up together - not in a relationship sense. But isn't being brother and sister closer than being lovers? You mean lust? hahaha Brother and sister would be closer then lovers because they are flesh and blood, and regardless of what happens you're sibling will always be there for you (or at least should be.) The love between a brother and sister can never change. I only have one sister, and I love her with all my heart, regardless of things that we've gone through, and will go through. She comes first before any man. BUT Chae-ok and SungBaek don't love each other as brother and sister. Don't you think SungBaek will be devastated when he finds out that the love of his life is his long-lost sister? The love he feels for her is completely different from the love he would have for his sister.
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Post by Choko on Nov 22, 2004 16:31:03 GMT -5
I think DAMO is quite similar to the ancient Greek Tragedy "OEDIPUS" where the poor king OEDIPUS got married with his mother IOCASTE without knowing that. When he discovered the truth, he stabbed his eyes with a dagger, and his mother committed suicide. They were predestined to do that by Gods. However, OEDIPUS refused to accept the destiny and maintained it was his will. ....Then, What do you think will happen to the brother and sister in the end of DAMO? I can not spoil yet.
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Post by Alexa on Nov 22, 2004 16:33:06 GMT -5
....Then, What do you think will happen to the brother and sister in the end of DAMO? I can not spoil yet. I am so anxious to know what is going to happen. I'm so tempted to ask you or Knov1 (since I know both of you's saw this drama already) what's going to happen. But I must resist!! Besides there are only 2 episodes left, I must stay strong!!
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Post by Knov1 on Nov 22, 2004 17:30:39 GMT -5
I hate how hypocritical Lt. Yoon is. He arrested her for getting "captured" to allow a trade for Sung-baek, and he even would have allowed the rebels to kill her rather than give him up? Let me ask you this. Do you honestly believe Yoon would harm Chae ok? Yoon loves Chae ok above anyone or anything else. I realize at times it may seem like he's being hypocritical or that he cares more about catching Sung Beak than about her but he would never have let anything happen to Chae Ok.
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