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Post by bettyboop on Jan 4, 2005 4:15:13 GMT -5
did anybody find it weird that somehow hee-soo's parents were just able to walk into jihae's parents' house? it's not like they have a maid and nobody else was home to open the door for them. it shocked me to find hee-soo's mother right at the entrance of their home. they need to learn to lock the doors.
i thought they were pretty bogus to be arguing in somebody else's house esp. since jihae's family has been going thru so much. i just about wanted to smack them. almost.
i also think that the only person making heesoo's mother unhappy is herself. she's going around picking fights at other people's homes with her ex DIL. it's like give it a rest already.
the other person i wanted to smack was the ex DIL herself. she needs to watch what she says to jihae's family at a time like this....
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Post by Lovely on Jan 4, 2005 12:23:36 GMT -5
I agree! I can't believe Hee-soo's parents were arguing in Min-sup's house when he was already distressed about his daughter's situation! I don't know what's up with Hee-soo's mom. She came into Min-sup's house and started the argument with her ex-DIL when all Young-lan said to her was a proper hello. I know Young-lan can be a real b*tch @ times, but she's not TOO bad if you really look at it. Hee-soo's mom should give her a chance to talk without having to bicker all the time. But it was SO funny when Min-sup told Hee-soo's parents to go to their own house and fight ;D! It was like he was kicking them out of his house ;D!
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Post by hachiue on Jan 4, 2005 13:04:12 GMT -5
I loved it when he kicked them out of his house! Especially since he's gotten to be a much better host recently (he even brought them drinks at first). I don't think that they knew the exact problems with Ji-hae because he didn't tell them she was in a coma, just that her operation went well. Still, it's rude to go to someone's house specifically to argue with someone that's there. And, yes, it would solve many people's problems if they would just lock their stupid doors (especially because it seems highly unlikely that Young-lan has a key to their house - and if she does, they should just change the locks).
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Post by toranaga on Jan 4, 2005 20:29:42 GMT -5
what young-lan said to eun-soo in epi.105 was the cold hard truth,there is no way he should be slacking when his father is working,let alone trying to get married and add to the family.
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Post by hachiue on Jan 5, 2005 9:52:16 GMT -5
He and Hee-soo were both pretty insensitive, especially when she still lived at home. Yeah, she was supposed to be husband catching and she eventually did help her parents, but that doesn't excuse her. And Hee-soo paying off her brother to do "research" isn't exactly helping either.
When I first heard her father talking about selling the house and moving out I was sad because she sacrificed a lot to help them keep the house. But then I realized that he's actually doing what's best for his son by trying to remove him from his mother's clutches. But I also don't think he understands why his wife wants Eun-soo to live with them after he's married - the men never help with the household chores and don't seem to even realize how much work it is (though I have seen him sweeping once or twice).
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Post by toranaga on Jan 5, 2005 20:38:19 GMT -5
I think a lot of the stuff going on between no job-soo and his mom is deeply rooted in asian culture,what you may not know is how much power parents have in asia,I mean I'M sure you've seen many dramas where the parents basically control's the lives of everyone, but you may not understand how deeply rooted it is.
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Post by Lucy on Jan 6, 2005 12:00:12 GMT -5
This reminds me of a lot of Young-lan's behavior, including her scoldings to "no-job-soo" (good one!), and how she seems determined to throw out everything traditional in Korea about interpersonal relations. She seems to think just about everything traditional is stupid. In essence, she's trying to reinvent the wheel as far as family culture goes. As far as I can see, she does not have a good reason to run around chastising people for things that they only do as they've been taught--showing respect to parents just because they are your parents, for example. While we non-Koreans might feel that she's got a point about things like standing up for yourself against your parents and not kowtowing to your in-laws, I don't see how being rude about it and throwing everyone into a tizzy to make her points is helping her cause. She sees herself as a reformer, but I think she's just kind of a brat. I hope we find out someday why she's so abrasive and why she gets off on it so much.
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Post by TheBo on Jan 6, 2005 14:20:36 GMT -5
I think the fact that people don't lock their doors is rather charming. I wonder, however, if it's realistic. Melissa?
On this note, I got a chuckle out of the episode (I'm not sure how far back) where ESM walked into Golf Dad's new aptmt uninvited, and when he protested, she said, "Better get a lock for the door." Good one, ESM.
Bo
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Post by TheBo on Jan 6, 2005 14:23:08 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, also, Hee-soo's parents weren't randomly walking into some acquaintance's house. They were walking into the home of their close relatives. HS's mom and Ji-hae's mom are sisters. Min-sup and HS's dad are like brothers, they're bosom buddies. I don't see anything strange or unseemly in their just showing up, even if it was to confront a third party. Maybe their timing was a little, um, off...
Bo
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Post by panther on Jan 6, 2005 20:28:27 GMT -5
i was thinking that sometimes shows like this represent society itself...maybe younglan represent the younger generation of korean people that is rebelling againts the traditional way of things. younglan can be a real b**** at times but myself being american i dont see her behavior as being outrageous. she said eun-soo needs a job, he does. she said his mom was controlling she is...she even attacked hee-soo (which was really funny ;D)
maybe in korea there are alot more younglans then there are hee-soo's
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Post by xelaevoli unlogged on Jan 6, 2005 22:10:03 GMT -5
My inlaws lived on the second floor of a two-story building. Now that I think about it, I don't remember the door being locked (except at night). It was a matter of shuffling up the steps and opening the door.
One thing I *do* remember is that when I walked in the apt, there was an area to remove shoes and then the rest of the apt was "elevated". You know when you see the people removing their shoes at the front door and then they step up? At my inlaws it was a steep step - 12+/- inches? All the shoes are left down in that area.
I don't know if the "step up" is due (in part) to the heating system in the floor (rooms are heated with pipes under the floor so that when people sleep on the floor they are warm. I actually wish we could build our house with that type of system - it was much better having warm feet than breathing stuffy dry heated air. Ugh. Anyway, I digressed.
Melissa
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Post by xelaevoli unlogged on Jan 6, 2005 22:10:41 GMT -5
Oh, and I don't remember people knocking when they entered, either. :-)
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Post by toranaga on Jan 7, 2005 6:23:18 GMT -5
I think that floor heating system is called "ONDOL"
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Post by hachiue on Jan 7, 2005 11:57:42 GMT -5
Those heating systems are neat!
My uncle has a floor-pipe heating system in his house that uses the house's hot water to heat the rooms (he built it himself) and usually really nice, except when the floor heat doesn't seem to compensate enough for the freezing cold outside.
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Post by TheBo on Jan 7, 2005 12:19:02 GMT -5
One thing I *do* remember is that when I walked in the apt, there was an area to remove shoes and then the rest of the apt was "elevated". You know when you see the people removing their shoes at the front door and then they step up? At my inlaws it was a steep step - 12+/- inches? All the shoes are left down in that area. Thank you, oh ominous one. Er. Omniverous one. Um, isn't that your DH calling you? I think that step-up thing is neat. We've talked about this here before, I think. (Clean floors. Less allergen track-in. Sigh.) The step-up makes a nice little segregated area for the shoes, too. The only thing is, it seems that it would be hard to step that far down squarely into your shoes, but nobody seems to have a problem on the dramas. Bo
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