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Post by ajk on Apr 24, 2022 23:48:37 GMT -5
Yeah I maybe shouldn't have even mentioned that. It's known in history but I don't like it when people bring up stuff too early...so I will be more careful.
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Post by simisteve on May 12, 2022 23:37:28 GMT -5
I binge watched the rest of the series and was really taken aback by how beautifully lit that scene near the end between the 2 brothers, where Choongnyeong confronts the Crown Prince & his gal-pal. Just look at how the fully-blossomed trees glow in different light; it was so beautiful to almost be distracting from the dialog. Whoever shot this series deserves a K-Emmy (or whatever it's called). BRAVO!
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Post by ajk on May 15, 2022 1:48:41 GMT -5
Here you go: (click for full size) Ever since Emperor of the Sea I've been touchy about images like this one. Can moonlight and whatever night-light fires are burning produce the image? Hard to say in this one...but yes it does make for a striking image. p.s. A bright full moon, probably it's enough so OK we'll give them this one.
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Post by π°π’ππ«πͺππ π©ππ¦π― on May 15, 2022 9:33:56 GMT -5
In real life it probably can't, but portraying it accurately would look a lot like in West Palace or Tears of the Dragon, where you can't see anything at night.
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Post by ajk on May 19, 2022 23:53:06 GMT -5
You know what, I would be perfectly fine with that! They couldn't, so why should I? But it probably wouldn't be too well received generally.
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Post by mugwump on May 20, 2022 7:44:37 GMT -5
In real life it probably can't, but portraying it accurately would look a lot like in West Palace or Tears of the Dragon, where you can't see anything at night. That really bothered me about Tears of the Dragon, the nighttime scenes were too realistically dark (both indoors and out). Give us some dramatic license please .
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Post by truth on Mar 13, 2023 19:17:44 GMT -5
Choongnyeong did report all of Yangnyeong's wrongdoings to Taejong, which got Yangnyeong to dislike him. You keep mentioning GKS as a source of historical accuracy. I haven't watched that show, but maybe that drama isn't so accurate after all. The writer of GKS is apparently no longer wanted in traditional historicals as she takes too much liberty with history. Looks like I was right about GKS not being so accurate.
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Post by sageuk on Mar 13, 2023 21:32:10 GMT -5
I only have one thing to say.
Probably for the best
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Post by ajk on Mar 15, 2023 10:30:36 GMT -5
Compareed to most of what we've watched here I don't think it's reasonable for GKS to get a bad rap on accuracy. Yes there were some issues, but it covered a lot of difficult material (some of it pretty dry for a major series) and I kept finding that it was sticking to history pretty well. Of course the bar is pretty low if you look at most recent historicals, fair enough....
The biggest problem that it did have was that as it went on and the ratings weren't so good, they started tossing in some questionable things to lighten it up. At one point the stars in the sky were flitting around and spelling out messages...unnecessary sequences like that. I can see where the viewers looking for maximum accuracy would have gotten really irritated towards the end.
Either way the one positive here is that apparently the standards are rising. If that writer is no longer seen as acceptable then hopefully the level of accuracy in future series will consistently be very high.
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Post by truth on Mar 15, 2023 17:23:21 GMT -5
Compareed to most of what we've watched here I don't think it's reasonable for GKS to get a bad rap on accuracy. Yes there were some issues, but it covered a lot of difficult material (some of it pretty dry for a major series) and I kept finding that it was sticking to history pretty well. Of course the bar is pretty low if you look at most recent historicals, fair enough.... The biggest problem that it did have was that as it went on and the ratings weren't so good, they started tossing in some questionable things to lighten it up. At one point the stars in the sky were flitting around and spelling out messages...unnecessary sequences like that. I can see where the viewers looking for maximum accuracy would have gotten really irritated towards the end. Either way the one positive here is that apparently the standards are rising. If that writer is no longer seen as acceptable then hopefully the level of accuracy in future series will consistently be very high. If you mean fusion historicals like Emperor of the Sea and QSD by "most of what we've watched here," of course a traditional historical is going to be more accurate than the fusion ones. You also have to consider that there are much more historical records available for Joseon dynasty unlike the dramas that take place in the Three Kingdom period. Taking a lot of liberty with Three Kingdom period is understandable for this reason but not acceptable for Joseon dynasty period. There are so many inaccuracies in the GKS drama according to Korean wiki page about GKS, which explains why the writer is no longer wanted in traditional historicals. I don't want to get into everything because there are so many but some of the inaccuracies include the depiction of Prince Yangnyeong. He is shown to be wanting to conquer Liadong for example. Yangnyeong in the LBW drama is probably the most accurate Yangnyeong in all of Korean historicals. GKS writer's last historical was 2014 Secret Door and she has never been hired to write a historical ever since. A villain court official talks to King Youngjo in informal language when they are talking one on one in this drama. (Example: Instead of saying "I beg you to stop this plan, Your Majesty," a court official says "Hey, buddy. I told you not to do that") If this happened in reality, the court official would've been executed immediately. This drama seemed to have been the final straw for her when it comes to historicals.
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Post by sageuk on Mar 15, 2023 17:34:36 GMT -5
Even though everyone else was doing fictionalized Crown Prince Sado though I suppose at that point, people had gotten sick of those
Thinking about it now, I think sheβs not a good writer-too many weaknesses even without the issue of historical accuracy and artistic license. The shows she writes are mostly carried by an otherwise strong direction and strong acting in spite of her capabilities and sheβs done nothing but ride on their coattails. Though considering ajk feels GKSβ Yi Bangwon and Queen Wongyeong are well written characters, he probably might not agree (I do agree they are the strongest part of the series)
A bad habit Iβve noticed in her works including IYSS and GKS is that there is a character that needs to be persuaded about something. Another character tries to emotionally appeal to that person, but that person stands, firm, only to suddenly change their stance later. Granted, persuasion is a very common thing to be used in these shows, but under her penmanship, itβs not always convincing.
I have a question. Non-Koreans may not be able to tell, but are her dialogues considered not very good to someone who can understand Korean? My parents never brought it up if it was though I am curious. Because sometimes in the aforementioned βappeal to another characterβ the appeal comes across as nonsensical at times. Or is it the problem with a subtitles?
Does she also come across as full of herself in interviews?
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