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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on May 18, 2021 20:07:33 GMT -5
500 Year-History of the Lee Dynasty's Women: Lady of the Side Chamber (이조여인 500사 별당아씨), 1976 Season 6 of TBC's 500 Year-History of the Lee Dynasty's Woman soap series. 150 episodes, of which only Episodes 148 and 147 remain. An adaptation of anonymous post-Manchu Invasion novel The Legend of Lady Park, which is about a noblewoman who uses her inherited Taoist magic to improve her family's station and defend Joseon against the Manchus with General Im Gyeong Eop. Based on the remaining episodes, they were unable to stop the Manchu invasions and Joseon's surrender, but rely on King Hyojong to plan revenge against the Qing dynasty.
A clip from one of the remaining episodes:
In this scene, Ascetic Yujeom (Lady Park's father) has chosen the day of his death, to the dismay of his daughter and in-laws. He's tired of life but content with their good fortune. The full episode was shown on JTBC's 2011 special program "TBC Memory Lane". Some screenshots from Episode 148:
Great Command/Grand Vocation (대명), 1981 Episode 1 Opening:
Episode 26 (VHS):
This show is KBS' first Daeha drama, about the Manchu Invasions during Injo's reign and Prince Bongrim's journey to becoming King. Only four episodes remain, three of which you'd have to go to Korea and call KBS to see.
Women of Legend: Jang Hee Bin (여인열전 장희빈), 1981 Season 1 of the Women of Legend Series, of which the 1995 version is a direct remake. Like, nearly shot-for-shot. A comparison video here:
Women of Legend: Hwang Jin Yi (여인열전 황진이), 1982 Summary video:
Season 4 of the Women of Legend Series. A certain Hwang Jinsa falls in love with a commoner named Hyeon Geum. He gets her pregnant and leaves her three months later. A retired gisaeng finds Hyeon Geum in labor below a bridge, and adopts the baby, named Jin Yi. Jin Yi is raised in the courtesan house alongside her fellow gisaeng trainees Ok Hyang and Chun Shim, and proves to be extraordinary in the arts. When she grows up, her adoptive mother tells her the truth and introduces her to Hyeon Geum, who is now living in squalor and dies soon after meeting Jin Yi. After Hyeon Geum's death, Jin Yi tries to meet her father Hwang Jinsa, but is rebuffed and humiliated when she tries to introduce herself without proof. This sends her down a spiral of revenge and resentment against noblemen, and after a visit to her mother's grave, she sets out to become the best courtesan in Joseon. After making a name for herself by enthralling the Songdo Magistrate and incurring the wrath of his concubine Buyong, Jin Yi enjoys wealth and glory for years. Hearing of this, her father Hwang Jinsa wants to make amends, but she humiliates him using the exact words he used on her ("I'm your daughter? May I ask what proof you have? Do you have some sort of token?"). She regrets this and tries to make amends with him years later, managing to do so right on his deathbed. Seeking to improve her art, she seeks out Seo Hwa Dam, a legendary artist and scholar who proves impervious to her advances. He becomes her teacher and gains her respect. She dies at the age of 40.
Oh, Heaven! (하늘아, 하늘아), 1988
Competing with MBC's 500 Years: Hanjungrok, KBS uploaded the first and last episodes of this 190 episode daily drama. Neither are subbed, unfortunately, and it's likely the rest of these episodes are lost too.
Episode 1:
Episode 190:
A really happy-sounding OST lamenting Lady Hyegyeong entering the Palace so young, so there's that: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZe5qwBqYnM (Couldn't find the studio version on YouTube but this live's pretty close)
There'll be more, I promise! Posts this long are just tiresome for me to make.
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Post by ajk on May 20, 2021 3:57:29 GMT -5
Good heavens you really have scoured the heck out of YouTube...There's stuff here that I never encountered when I was putting together our timeline and have never heard of. Never had found an episode count for Oh Heaven and no idea what the heck TBC is (I've Googled it now). And that Women of Legend thing I never did find any information to flesh out. Looks like I've got work to do, well thanks for all of this good info. Wow.
And that 1982 Hwang Jin Yi, apparently a young Choi Myeong Gil has a supporting role. Hope some of it still exists cause I gotta see that.
p.s. Please not to ask for too much since you've shared all this, but do you know the episode total for Grand Vocation (another number I could never find)? And any sort of list of the specific series in the Women of Legend group would be a huge help to our timeline. I have JHB, HJY, and Queen of the West Palace in our timeline, but according to MyDramaList HJY is season four of this series so clearly I'm missing something.
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Post by ajk on May 20, 2021 4:44:59 GMT -5
Good gravy Marie she's in the clip! How about that! (Click for full size) Would have been around 20 years old. Well this totally made my day.
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on May 21, 2021 9:42:32 GMT -5
Good heavens you really have scoured the heck out of YouTube...There's stuff here that I never encountered when I was putting together our timeline and have never heard of. Never had found an episode count for Oh Heaven and no idea what the heck TBC is (I've Googled it now). And that Women of Legend thing I never did find any information to flesh out. Looks like I've got work to do, well thanks for all of this good info. Wow. And that 1982 Hwang Jin Yi, apparently a young Choi Myeong Gil has a supporting role. Hope some of it still exists cause I gotta see that. p.s. Please not to ask for too much since you've shared all this, but do you know the episode total for Grand Vocation (another number I could never find)? And any sort of list of the specific series in the Women of Legend group would be a huge help to our timeline. I have JHB, HJY, and Queen of the West Palace in our timeline, but according to MyDramaList HJY is season four of this series so clearly I'm missing something. It's not too much at all! This year and the last have been fruitful when it comes to old drama information, if not footage. I can even give you the names of each episode! Grand Vocation is 50 episodes, of which only Episodes 1, 26, 49 and 50 remain. The season you're missing is probably Silver Knife, starring Lee Hye Suk and Yu In Chon. It's about a maiden defending her chastity from her "beloved" with the Silver Knife she's supposed to kill herself with. I have a clip of that, actually but i haven't uploaded it.
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on May 21, 2021 9:43:50 GMT -5
Good gravy Marie she's in the clip! How about that! (Click for full size) Would have been around 20 years old. Well this totally made my day. Yep, she's playing the Songdo Magistrate's Concubine Buyong in this, with quite a heavy Pyeongyang accent!
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Post by MTR on May 24, 2021 20:00:31 GMT -5
Holy sheet, this is the saguek gold mine . Thank you for posting all this wonderful info .
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Post by ajk on May 25, 2021 19:08:06 GMT -5
Suddenly I've gotten a little bit sad here...because it's clear that we'll never be able to see a lot of these earlier series because of lost episodes. Never thought about that before but yeah I guess it's to be expected. There have been some real tragedies out there, even in Western countries with prosperous TV networks. Most of the early Johnny Carson shows were erased and those things were a cultural archive of 1960s America...I know there's a big Doctor Who obsession with trying to track down a bunch of episodes that weren't preserved by the BBC...a lot of stories like that, really unfortunate.
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Post by MTR on May 27, 2021 17:22:39 GMT -5
Suddenly I've gotten a little bit sad here...because it's clear that we'll never be able to see a lot of these earlier series because of lost episodes. Never thought about that before but yeah I guess it's to be expected. There have been some real tragedies out there, even in Western countries with prosperous TV networks. Most of the early Johnny Carson shows were erased and those things were a cultural archive of 1960s America...I know there's a big Doctor Who obsession with trying to track down a bunch of episodes that weren't preserved by the BBC...a lot of stories like that, really unfortunate. There was a series of British ghost stories titled Mystery And Imagination that was wiped also . Anyway its like those clips of 500 Years Of Joseon in a way as something is better than nothing .I am grateful for what we have seen .
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Jul 26, 2021 1:13:25 GMT -5
HI EVERYONE so MBC is rerunning Women of Legend: Jang Hee Bin on MBC ON from 9:00 AM KST today (that's 8PM yesterday EST i think)! Episodes show on Mondays and Tuesdays and can be viewed either by TV, website or MBC's app. The show's badly damaged apparently so they're starting with an AI restoration of episode 11 today and showing episode 13 tomorrow. Don't worry about subtitles, there are none but you have the remake mostly subbed anyways! When in doubt, check the '95 version! Yeah I just realized I got the times all wrong so i corrected it but now I'm horribly disappointed i didn't get to see Episode 11 anyway!! Episode 13 is tonight at 8!! TONIGHT AT EIGHT!!
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Post by ajk on Jul 26, 2021 17:42:23 GMT -5
Thank you for flagging this for us. I'll try to catch it, definitely. I'm behind on everything right now becase of the Kingdom episode but I sure would like to see this.
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Jul 26, 2021 22:40:42 GMT -5
Just some screeshots from the Episode 13, which parallels exactly Episode 13 of the '95 version, give or take some scenes that couldn't be managed in 1981, like the detailed wedding ceremony. I think it's really funny how all the Palace shots are just the front of Daejo Hall over and over again, but Palace access wasn't so easy in the 80s, especially with a huge chunk of colonial architecture in front of the Palace. Lots of traditional music instead of the synthesizers in the 90s version, and I find it pretty interesting that they play Confucian court music when the Palace is "at peace" or when good things are happening, but at the slightest form of tension they play more folk traditional music - hmm, wonder why...
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Post by ajk on Jul 27, 2021 14:35:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the screenshots! These are great.
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Jul 27, 2021 22:20:40 GMT -5
I was actually supposed to post more but I forgot lmao also this is going to be an every week thing until MBC finishes broadcasting!
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Aug 3, 2021 10:27:02 GMT -5
Missed episode 14 but I caught episode 15! And made enough screenshots to compensate. Through this episode I learned that Eom Yu Shin really likes playing Prince Dongpyeong's mother: And that Inhyeon's mother looks like she could be her sister in this version. In terms of how the episode matches the '95 version, I haven't rewatched the corresponding episode so all I can say is yes everything in the '81 version is in the '95 version - the qustion is how much of the '95 version is in the '81 version. With that in mind, to the screenshots!
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Post by 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔫𝔪𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔯 on Aug 9, 2021 2:52:16 GMT -5
Episode 16 wasn't as interesting as previous episodes so I didn't take too many screenshots but turns out I was wrong about Eom Yu Shin playing Dongpyeong's mother. In fact, I don't know who she's playing because her character seems to have been written out of the '95 version. Also I prefer the way Jangryeol gives the order to bring Ok Jeong back in the '95 version over this, probably because it was more dramatic.
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