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Post by ajk on Mar 4, 2016 21:46:26 GMT -5
In this episode we heard the Ming calendar books (the gift from Yu Taegang) referred to as "Shoushi Li." Here's some more information about them and about Guo Shoujing, who created them:
www.chineseimpression.net/chinese-festival/the-24-solar-terms-and-the-chinese-calendar.html
It also gives a bit more information about the concept of a 24-month calendar, although it doesn't explain its importance.
"I'm going to see where Mercury is." No you're not, not at that time of night. Won't be visible. Oops.
At least they got the Venus orbit right: 225 days.
The scene with the presentation of the astronomy work, very nice! Give the producers credit for preparing all of those diagrams and for devoting several minutes of the episode to material that may be too detailed for a lot of viewers.
I'm sorry but that dancer's fall didn't look very convincing at all.
Standardizing music and musical instruments--GKS never got into this but Sejong himself mentioned it in this episode. After a lot of searching I finally managed to find a few book pages that provide some detail about it. It's very interesting, actually.
books.google.com/books?id=m1FUCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA237&lpg=PA237&dq=%22king+sejong%22+music&source=bl&ots=owo79468U6&sig=ojXoqtipIojvFt7Mitw_xfUarkk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjniqHMu6jLAhXFnYMKHfSODxs4ChDoAQghMAE#v=onepage&q=%22king%20sejong%22%20music&f=false
It wasn't "standardizing," it was creating a distinct Joseon music, which previously didn't exist. Just like with the calendar, Joseon had used Ming music. Too bad GKS didn't spend any time on it, because it could have added some nice musical sequences into some episodes.
Okay look, I know it's TV and you have to make some compromises...but a total lunar eclipse that comes and goes in 34 seconds, stop it. Just stop it. Ugh!
Who was that older woman scolding the princess? The Hangul translates to Kyong Hye Yongchu or something like that. She's a royal..."Your Grace"...but is she a real person in history? I need to add her to the character roster.
Whatever anybody thinks about this series, nobody can disagree that we sure have seen some nice woodworking. Beautifully made stuff.
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Post by truth on Mar 4, 2016 22:05:28 GMT -5
Why does your character roster say Ju Taegang, but your episode summary say Yu Taegang?
The description in your character roster is the accurate one, but I was just wondering.
The royal's name is Princess Kyong Hye, and yes, she's a real person. Remember Lee Bangu from Jeong Dojeon? The one who didn't want to be a prince in Joseon and chose to remain loyal to the dynasty that his own father destroyed? She's his daughter.
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Post by ajk on Mar 5, 2016 2:41:04 GMT -5
Why does your character roster say Ju Taegang, but your episode summary say Yu Taegang? The description in your character roster is the accurate one, but I was just wondering. Because I'm an idiot. Most likely we've seen the last of him but if we see him again I'll be more careful with his name. Sure I remember Bangu...and from the way he was portrayed in JD I'm surprised to learn he had a family. Okay then, that's who she is, much appreciated and I'll plug her into the roster.
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Post by truth on Mar 5, 2016 4:48:00 GMT -5
Why does your character roster say Ju Taegang, but your episode summary say Yu Taegang? The description in your character roster is the accurate one, but I was just wondering. Because I'm an idiot. Most likely we've seen the last of him but if we see him again I'll be more careful with his name. Sure I remember Bangu...and from the way he was portrayed in JD I'm surprised to learn he had a family. Okay then, that's who she is, much appreciated and I'll plug her into the roster. She was most likely born before the foundation of Joseon dynasty.
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Post by mikey on Mar 6, 2016 13:02:50 GMT -5
When JYS was pondering the fifteen minute difference between their calculations of the lunar eclipse and the actual eclipse, I thought I noticed a brief sketch of the earth and the sun reversing positions (apparently, it was illustrating JYS’s thinking process).
There was no narration, so maybe I misinterpreted what was going on. But, if something like this actually happened historically, it suggests that JYS may have beat Copernicus to the “heliocentric hypothesis” by some eighty years.
I’m looking forward to seeing how this theory is pursued in future episodes.
And yes, that thirty-second lunar eclipse was unintentionally hilarious. I couldn’t believe my eyes as I watched it happening. It’s hard to imagine that they let something this silly make it through to the final edit.
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Post by ajk on Mar 6, 2016 21:41:32 GMT -5
mikey! How the heck are you? Glad you've been watching. Yeah I wondered about that too. You're right, the sketches switched from geocentric to heliocentric....and now my baloney meter is on high alert for the next episode. We shall see.
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Post by mikey on Mar 8, 2016 20:32:42 GMT -5
It's nice to be back, ajk. After the last two KBS historicals went un-subbed by DiretTV, I was on the verge of cancelling my DTV "Korean Package" altogether. After all, since I don't speak Korean, what was the point? But, almost to my astonishment, this time they're running JYS with full English subs. Happy days! It just took me a few weeks to catch up with everyone here ... but I'm here now!
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Post by ajk on Mar 8, 2016 21:25:38 GMT -5
This one is on YouTube too mikey, fully subbed. On the KBS World channel. First time KBS has done that with a historical. I hope they keep it up.
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Post by simisteve on Mar 13, 2016 0:27:32 GMT -5
I can forgive the super-zippy eclipse, I mean, what are they gonna do? But what really gave me pause was at the beginning, the voice-over says that Jo-Malseng assisted Sejong in liberating JYS! I'm not sure, but in GKS, was that depicted as such, given how that character wouldn't help the king at anything?
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Post by truth on Mar 13, 2016 0:33:52 GMT -5
I can forgive the super-zippy eclipse, I mean, what are they gonna do? But what really gave me pause was at the beginning, the voice-over says that Jo-Malseng assisted Sejong in liberating JYS! I'm not sure, but in GKS, was that depicted as such, given how that character wouldn't help the king at anything? I think they vilified him in GKS.
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Post by ajk on Mar 13, 2016 2:11:34 GMT -5
I think they vilified him in GKS. Yessir, they did.
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Post by bird11 on Mar 19, 2016 18:45:45 GMT -5
Slowly catching up to everyone and really enjoying this. Thanks to AJK for the added information in his first post: I actually read many of the pages plus in the ones about the musical instruments and liked the section on paintings, like seeing instruments used in this historical, the process one went thru to paint a painting in those days was amazing--just creating the material on which to paint was a process! I agree with the comment about the eclipse, even if it wasn't the actual time the short one here was just comical. The only complaint I really have is the budding romance betweem the Princess and Youngshil --- even as someone who doesn't watch alot history dramas I know it is not going to make certain people happy! (I am guessing this is not true history?) (and thanks, ajk for agreeing with me about the difficulty in telling characters apart, it's nice to know I am not alone in this!)
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Post by sageuk on Mar 19, 2016 19:51:59 GMT -5
The princess has mostly been there just for the sake of romance. Take her out, and not alot is lost. No point of it either considering the developing bromance between Sejong and Youngshil.
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