Mimosa on Ethnic Cleansing #118/119

[MTR]

I know Mimosa can get a rep for being underhanded but in these episodes he questions keeping the Khitan Refugee's around and even at one point considers sending the Army to surround their village and either kill them or drive them out ,Sukyong seems in agreement with this too but DJY pops up and possibly to appease Geom orders a hands off .

Myself i would loved to have seen the Gogoryeon Warriors just ramp up and drive these people out ,as it is at the end of 119 the Khitans blaming DJY for the fall of Khitan seeming to forget DJY retaliated against Kaigu only because the Khitans declared war and attacked Ansi .

Right from the start the Khitans have been treacherous they participated in the fall of Koguryo ,they had no problem enslaving the former Gogoryeon Citizens ,even when DJY was saving Khitan from Tang they were constantly plotting against DJY ,Save for the late Khan the Khitans have been more trouble than they are worth and blind to their own shortcomings .
Mimosa and Sukyong have always recognised this at one moment she reminds DJY these people were responsible for the fall of Koguryo but he is always inclined to gi ve them the benefit of the doubt .Myself for the most part i have always found Mimosa to be very pragmatic and strong in area's where DJY seems gullible ,he is ruthless but unlike Shin Hong he is not blinded by hate and DJY should remember the gratitude they got last time he bailed them out .

While not wanting to be a war monger , is Mimosa correct in advocating the destruction or driving out of the Khitan Refugee's ?.
Considering from a historical perspective that Khitan eventually will destroy Balhae surely the Gogoryeon's should have seen this coming .

[MTR]

Sorry in the second paragraph i should have stated ep 119 ends with the Khitan Refugees plotting an uprising .

[snoopdog]

Domyoungchun, I couldn't agree with you more. It amazes me that DJY's love for Geom eventually leads to the death of his father, Dae Jung-sang, Heuk sodol, Gyepilsamun and Geumran. If DJY let Li Kaigu and his men be executed by the Turks none of the Characters I mentioned would have died in the later episodes. DJY is a great humanitarian but a little to trusting to people he shouldn't be.

(This looks like a spoiler, but it's cleared up in a few posts. DJS isn't dead. Sorry to be so late catching up. Ginnycat)

[ajk]

snoopdog--DO NOT POST SPOILERS here!!! This is the Chicago board and we have no idea what's going to happen to DJS. You've now ruined an important storyline for everybody who sees your post. We're at episode #128 so if you want to talk about anything in subsequent episodes, you must use the spoiler thread. That's the rule here. No exceptions.

[snoopdog]

Sorry... We're at EPS#119. I thought that I read that on on of the posts from Chicago. My mistake!

[ajk]

Ah, that makes things different. If you're behind #128 then it may not be a spoiler after all. DJS is in a real pickle at the end of #128, but maybe he'll survive it. So you're off the hook! That aside, welcome to the forum.

[ronin]

It's not a spoiler. It's a fact that Dae Jungsang did die in real history along with the Mohe tribal leader Gilsabiwu in the real Battle of Cheonmunryeong against Duke Li Kaigu (who is a historical peson). After their deaths, Dae Joyoung was able to found the Empire of Balhae. This info can be found in wikipedia. It's not a reliable website but it's the only English translated source of info we have on the history of Goguryeo-Tang Wars and Balhae Kingdom. Xue Rengui is supposed to be dead 10 years earlier but the show writers kept him kicking alive after all this time. Probably for comedy relief with Hongpei.

edit: I removed my comment to another thread about the show because it may or may not be a spoiler.

[JP Paulus]

That's why i have been hesitating on editing posts -- those historical facts...i have hinted at it in other posts.

Ronin,was the post you mentioned about Biwu in a SPOILER thread -- if so, please do NOT mention it anywhere else.

As for Cheonmunryeong , i wished they had showed it earlier, because i am sure there was more story to tell later on after the battle.

Here's a REAL spoiler -- at the end of his life, Dae Jo Young dies!

[ronin]

Feb 2, 2008 16:49:33 GMT -5 JP Paulus said:

Ronin,was the post you mentioned about Biwu in a SPOILER thread -- if so, please do NOT mention it anywhere else.

I'm not sure. It was awhile back when someone mentoned it in this board (probably a few months ago). I deleted my comment about the show in case it is a spoiler.

[ajk]

ronin, this series has shown time and again (as you note regarding Xue Rengui) that just because something may have happened in real history, that doesn't mean it will happen in the series. I agree, this is a fine line, because we know how the major national events in these historical series turn out. But because there's plenty of fiction in DJY we just don't know what will happen to most of the individual characters. So if someone talks about a character dying and the death hasn't aired yet here in Chicago, that is absolutely a spoiler and shouldn't be anywhere but the spoiler thread.