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Post by seven stars on Feb 17, 2005 10:28:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Alexa! The vision statement is particularly exciting. Which location do you attend at? If ever I'm in Chi-town I'll be sure to visit.
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Post by Alexa on Feb 17, 2005 10:44:15 GMT -5
Cool, everybody is welcomed I attend Nueva Vida Sur (spanish for New Life South). They have 2 services, one in english and one in spanish.
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Post by seven stars on Feb 17, 2005 10:53:38 GMT -5
Eso suena muy emocionante! Do you attend both services?
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Post by Alexa on Feb 17, 2005 10:58:20 GMT -5
No, both services are at the same time. The english meets in the basement and the spanish meets on the main floor. Though I am fluent in spanish, I feel more comfortable in the english service.
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Post by seven stars on Feb 17, 2005 11:53:59 GMT -5
I hear you! I'm actually not fluent in Spanish, but was raised around it, so I'm comfortable in either setting.
Do they ever combine the services?
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Post by jenny on Feb 17, 2005 12:55:51 GMT -5
What a nice thread! BTW, my cat has chronic renal failure and gets subcutaneous fluids daily and medications twice a day. Kitties can be helped by medical care for many of the same conditions humans get. Thyroid disturbances, cancer, heart problems, etc. Wow, your cat has what my dad has! Well, what he did have, and is going through again. Is this like Peritoneal dialysis for kitty cats? Does your cat have a port or tube in it's belly? This is very interesting! And kudos to you, Chigirl, and sevenstars' parents for taking such good care of your pets.
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Post by Lucy on Feb 17, 2005 14:32:25 GMT -5
Hi, Jenny. Wow, I'm sorry your dad has to deal with this. I hope the treatments are keeping him feeling pretty good, all things considered. It must be a lot for him to go through; I've heard peritoneal dialysis takes hours at a time? But I've also heard it's a bit easier on the person in terms of convenience, no?
I had the idea that my cat's regimen was like peritoneal dialysis, but it actually isn't. I don't understand what the difference is, but they say the sub-Q fluids are for hydration, not to flush the kidneys or clear the blood of toxins. In my layman's opinion, isn't the net effect the same? But at any rate, keeping the kitty hydrated is the main thing, I'm told. Maybe you could speak to the issue of the different therapies and what their goals are. Although, the issues are probably different between cats and people. It's been explained to me this way: as desert animals, cats concentrate their urine, but when the kidneys fail they can't concentrate it and so the cats lose a ton of water through their urine.
I don't use a tube (a GIF tube); most don't. Some cat owners do, but it has drawbacks, such as being a potential infection site. (It's easier for a human to take care of a port if they have one. :-) ) My cat takes the fluids through a regular IV line, only the needle is inserted under the skin, not into a vein. Sometimes CRF cats "crash" (their values go up) and they have to be admitted to the hospital for IV, but my cat is doing fine so far on sub-Q.
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Post by jenny on Feb 17, 2005 15:28:39 GMT -5
Hi, Jenny. Wow, I'm sorry your dad has to deal with this. I hope the treatments are keeping him feeling pretty good, all things considered. It must be a lot for him to go through; I've heard peritoneal dialysis takes hours at a time? But I've also heard it's a bit easier on the person in terms of convenience, no? I had the idea that my cat's regimen was like peritoneal dialysis, but it actually isn't. I don't understand what the difference is, but they say the sub-Q fluids are for hydration, not to flush the kidneys or clear the blood of toxins. In my layman's opinion, isn't the net effect the same? But at any rate, keeping the kitty hydrated is the main thing, I'm told. Maybe you could speak to the issue of the different therapies and what their goals are. Although, the issues are probably different between cats and people. It's been explained to me this way: as desert animals, cats concentrate their urine, but when the kidneys fail they can't concentrate it and so the cats lose a ton of water through their urine. I don't use a tube (a GIF tube); most don't. Some cat owners do, but it has drawbacks, such as being a potential infection site. (It's easier for a human to take care of a port if they have one. :-) ) My cat takes the fluids through a regular IV line, only the needle is inserted under the skin, not into a vein. Sometimes CRF cats "crash" (their values go up) and they have to be admitted to the hospital for IV, but my cat is doing fine so far on sub-Q. I learned something new about cats today! It's a good thing your cat doesn't have a port, I'd imagine that would be a recipe for disaster, infection-wise. My dad got a nasty infection shortly after starting PD. Very painful. He couldn't continue with PD, there were some complications, so he suffered through hemodialysis until the transplant a few months later. PD was time consuming, but I thought it was beter than hemo. You could either hook yourself up to a machine every night, or do 4, half-hour exchanges during the day. Anyone in the room with him had to put on a face mask before he hooked himself up to the IV bags. Taking the cap off of the tube exposed his belly to the outside world! I could see my cat running away from me after taking off the cap, I'd be a wreck trying to catch her! Plus, my dad had to keep the tube in a baby bootie, taped to his stomach. No cat would tolerate that! ;D Sorry to veer off topic. Alexa, your church looks really nice! I go to a similar church in the 'burbs, so big it has satellite locations. Our Spanish service is called Casa De Luz. Unfortunately, I don't speak Spanish, so I haven't been to that service.
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Post by lucyunlogged on Feb 17, 2005 15:43:11 GMT -5
OK, I'll get back on topic, since we never did move this to another thread.
You know, it strikes me that it might be a good way to learn. After all, you probably already know the service, so you could provide your own English "subtitles" to the Spanish service.
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Post by jenny on Feb 17, 2005 16:23:03 GMT -5
OK, I'll get back on topic, since we never did move this to another thread. You know, it strikes me that it might be a good way to learn. After all, you probably already know the service, so you could provide your own English "subtitles" to the Spanish service. True!
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Post by seven stars on Feb 17, 2005 16:52:30 GMT -5
Yes, the flow of service and songs can be learned easy enough. The challenge comes when the preaching begins. Some churches out east have a translator on a second microphone who translates each phrase the preacher says. Others have installed a room in the church where someone listens to the sermon on headphones and directly translates into a microphone which then transmits into headphones made available to those in the audience who require translation. It's almost "real time."
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Post by Alexa on Feb 17, 2005 16:54:39 GMT -5
Sorry to veer off topic. Alexa, your church looks really nice! I go to a similar church in the 'burbs, so big it has satellite locations. Our Spanish service is called Casa De Luz. Unfortunately, I don't speak Spanish, so I haven't been to that service. Hey I've heard of that before. Whats the name of your church. Is it Willowbrook?
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Post by jenny on Feb 17, 2005 17:03:59 GMT -5
Hey I've heard of that before. Whats the name of your church. Is it Willowbrook? Close! Willow Creek Community Church. Willow Creek has those real time translation headphones, too, I think they translate for Russian and Mandarin speakers. They also have sign language translation.
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Post by Alexa Unlogged on Feb 17, 2005 17:07:34 GMT -5
Close! Willow Creek Community Church. Willow Creek has those real time translation headphones, too, I think they translate for Russian and Mandarin speakers. They also have sign language translation. I'M so sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what I mean Willow Creek.
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Post by jenny on Feb 17, 2005 17:09:42 GMT -5
I'M so sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what I mean Willow Creek. Oh, no problem! No need to be sorry!
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