Let Jae-min do what he wants

[jenny]

Does anyone know why Jae-min's parents are getting so worked up about the manthingysnipsnip? (Just playing around, the censor let vasectomy through) Am I misinformed about something here? If Ji-hae can never get pregnant, why is JM's "potency" important? Unless they don't believe their marriage can last, and want JM to continue the bloodline with wifey # 2? If that's the case, that's really insulting to Ji-hae! I mean, let him go through with it for the sake of his wife and Grandma's mental health, and he can have it reversed after the divorce is final. Another irritating storyline.

[galacticchick]

I guess because the dad is considering some important factors:

1) he is the only one who could continue their family name.

2) in connection w/point 1, family name is important

3) 50% of marriages in Korea (might actually be more) end in divorce

4) in some cases, if they botch the job, his vasectomy might not be reversible.

[jenny]

galacticchick said:

I guess because the dad is considering some important factors:

1) he is the only one who could continue their family name.

2) in connection w/point 1, family name is important

3) 50% of marriages in Korea (might actually be more) end in divorce

4) in some cases, if they botch the job, his vasectomy might not be reversible.

So they are considering divorce! That's such an insult to the couple. I'd at least expect his mom to stand up for Ji-hae. This whole situation reminds me of Dear Encounter. The MIL, while her daughter-in-law was away giving birth at her mom's house, had her son sleep with a woman they hired because she looked like she could produce a male heir. Now, this was way back when (40's, 50's 60's, I forget) but this is who the parents remind me of.

[TheBo]

jenny said:

Does anyone know why Jae-min's parents are getting so worked up about the manthingysnipsnip? (Just playing around, the censor let vasectomy through) ....

Hah, hah, hah--good one, Jen. Did you know they were looking for you over at the Hello Kitty "forum"? They miss your puckish sense of humor, it seems.

The only thing I can contribute to the manthingysnipsnip discussion is that some people believe it affects one's, er, ability. Also, there was some talk a few years ago that it might turn one's prostate to "mush" at some future time, but I don't know if that's a legitimate theory or some insane male conspiracy theory. Finally, it's still an operation, and there are always risks.

But I had to laugh at the extremes this boy goes to. First, he tries to adopt a baby to get his wife to wake from a coma (that was hilarious), now he's going to get an operation so she'll feel better. Has she woken up yet? My TV still has her sleeping.

Bo

[hachiue]

How far behind on episodes are you, Bo? She's been awake for at least a week.

The manthingysnipsnip deal is entirely annoying. I wouldn't want him to get snipped if he were my husband, but I still don't think his parents have anything to say on the matter. I think that he's doing it because he realizes his parents are thinking of divorce and he wants to make sure that they can't force a divorce and then a remarriage.

It seems to me, though, that his dad has allowed entering the name in the register, if Jae-min won't get snipped - I think that's what happened in the most recent episode.

[jenny]

TheBo said:

The only thing I can contribute to the manthingysnipsnip discussion is that some people believe it affects one's, er, ability. Also, there was some talk a few years ago that it might turn one's prostate to "mush" at some future time, but I don't know if that's a legitimate theory or some insane male conspiracy theory. Finally, it's still an operation, and there are always risks.


Bo

Oh. This makes the whole situation both disturbing and hilarious, since Jae-min's dad has had a vasectomy! "You CAN"T do it, son, you don't understand!!!"

hachiue said:

I think that he's doing it because he realizes his parents are thinking of divorce and he wants to make sure that they can't force a divorce and then a remarriage.

That makes sense. If Ji-hae catches on to this, she'll be really hurt.

[TheBo]

Och, I'm about two weeks behind or so. I'm trying to catch up still from over Xmas--quite a backlog.

I did not know der papa had had the operation. That DOES put a different complexion on the matter, as well as Jae-min's oppa's general crabbiness.

Bo

[BAE]

TheBo said:

I did not know der papa had had the operation. That DOES put a different complexion on the matter, as well as Jae-min's oppa general crabbiness.

Bo

oppa? was that a typo? i think u mean appa.

[bettyboop]

TheBo said:

But I had to laugh at the extremes this boy goes to. First, he tries to adopt a baby to get his wife to wake from a coma (that was hilarious), now he's going to get an operation so she'll feel better. Has she woken up yet? My TV still has her sleeping.

Bo

;D yup just goes to show you how much the boy loves his wifey...

[sandy]

I like Jae-Min because he's staying by Jae-Hae. They're both very young, but deciding to have a vasectomy is a bit extreme at his age. Jae-Hae isn't so sure about needing to have children. Who knows, but she may decide to become a business woman like her mother. If they divorce, Jae-Min may want to marry again and have a child.

Jae-Min's father had a vasectomy after their son was born. His objection is mainly that he wants to carry on the family name. Jae-Hae's father, Min-Sup, has some rough edges about him, but he seems to truly want Jae-Hae to be happy.

[hachiue]

I wonder if they haven't thought of a surrogate mother? You know, so Jae-min can donate his sperm and she can carry the baby to term. Perhaps he (and Ji-hae) think this would give his parents the impetus to force a divorce, but I think it's a rather good solution - he carries on the all-important bloodline and there's no jealousy b/c he hasn't been unfaithful (because apparently the solution in previous generations was to have the husband actually sleep with another woman, which I just find abhorrent).

[BAE]

hachiue said:

I wonder if they haven't thought of a surrogate mother? You know, so Jae-min can donate his sperm and she can carry the baby to term. Perhaps he (and Ji-hae) think this would give his parents the impetus to force a divorce, but I think it's a rather good solution - he carries on the all-important bloodline and there's no jealousy b/c he hasn't been unfaithful (because apparently the solution in previous generations was to have the husband actually sleep with another woman, which I just find abhorrent).

I think that this a good resolution, but it's only temporary one. For starters, jee-hae would have a difficult time looking at jae-min and then the baby and thinking, "another woman's contribution created this baby, not mine." In her mind-set, it might appear that jae-min and the woman have a sort of bond that connects them because of this baby thing. Besides, she'll probably ask for a divorce after a series of deppressions because she is infertile and then everything would end up complicated. a lot of women that i have known in the past have gone through with the idea of a surrogate mother, but later have regretted it because a few tiffs here and there with the husband and that's it---marriage ended. but, i agree with some people who say that jae-min is a sweetheart for wanting to get himself sterilized for his wife. that, in some people's eyes is a sacrifice when he's perfectly fine and can produce children through the surrougate mother idea, but it's the nicest thing he could ever say to his wife. maybe not the best solution, but still nice.

[TheBo]

BAE said:

oppa? was that a typo? i think u mean appa.

Sorry. On the fly. (Could have been worse. I could have typed "oopa")

Bo

PS to "help"--I deleted your post because you did not say anything, just quoted hachuie. Be sure to look at your posts in "preview" before you "post" so you can be sure it says what you want it to say.

[hachiue]

BAE said:

I think that this a good resolution, but it's only temporary one. For starters, jee-hae would have a difficult time looking at jae-min and then the baby and thinking, "another woman's contribution created this baby, not mine." In her mind-set, it might appear that jae-min and the woman have a sort of bond that connects them because of this baby thing. Besides, she'll probably ask for a divorce after a series of deppressions because she is infertile and then everything would end up complicated. a lot of women that i have known in the past have gone through with the idea of a surrogate mother, but later have regretted it because a few tiffs here and there with the husband and that's it---marriage ended. but, i agree with some people who say that jae-min is a sweetheart for wanting to get himself sterilized for his wife. that, in some people's eyes is a sacrifice when he's perfectly fine and can produce children through the surrougate mother idea, but it's the nicest thing he could ever say to his wife. maybe not the best solution, but still nice.

I guess there isn't a way to prevent him from having a bond if he knows who the mother is. I suppose they could keep it from him, the way they do with adoptions, but that would be needlessly complicated.

I wonder why they didn't extract eggs from Ji-hae before they took everything out. I know that a lot of women here do that before cancer treatments, etc., so I would think that they'd have an agreement as to what they were to do if the operation went badly. It would've been one of the best solutions, based on what his parents want.

But I guess they're trying to show that family doesn't mean who's descended from whom but how you develop a relationship while living together. (It flies in the face of that old saying - you can pick your friends, (or your nose) but not your family.)