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Post by Kipper on Sept 5, 2006 12:35:56 GMT -5
Just wondering, is it true that Lee Young Ae is not as popular in her own country Korea, as compared to her popularity in other Asian countries? Somehow I got this impression..Anyone care to enlighten me. TIA
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Post by djanggum on Sept 5, 2006 16:22:44 GMT -5
LYA used to be extremely popular in Korea during S4LV... Now she is casting in CF's only and is recognized as Korea's top3 CF Queen. It's amazing, how she is sooo popular in foreign counttries. LYA is still one of the top actresses in korea though. She is viewed as a big hallyu star because of her foreign fans..
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Post by Kipper on Sept 7, 2006 0:53:45 GMT -5
Hi djanggum,
Juz wondering is there an inverse relationship btw being big hallyu star and being popular locally in Korea? What is the general sentiment in Korea ie are they proud or generally resent these hallyu stars ie viewed as losing touch with the local Korean fans coz paying more attention to the fans abroad?
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Post by djanggum on Sept 7, 2006 21:12:55 GMT -5
usually, hallyu stars are popular in korea, because they get a lot of respect from being popular in foreign countries. umm not many people resent hallyu stars and not many are viewed as losing touch with korean fans, because they don't... LYA, JJH, and the casts of DJG are not doing much in foreign countries right now... LYA's been doing a lot of CF's in korea and volunteering. There are some unfortunately, who are viewed as "Japanese" people because they devote majority of their time dedicating themselves to Japan instead of korea...
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Post by moreshige2 on Sept 7, 2006 22:43:56 GMT -5
usually, hallyu stars are popular in korea, because they get a lot of respect from being popular in foreign countries. umm not many people resent hallyu stars and not many are viewed as losing touch with korean fans, because they don't... LYA, JJH, and the casts of DJG are not doing much in foreign countries right now... LYA's been doing a lot of CF's in korea and volunteering. There are some unfortunately, who are viewed as "Japanese" people because they devote majority of their time dedicating themselves to Japan instead of korea... is Boa one of them?
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Post by kiparang on Sept 7, 2006 23:45:45 GMT -5
Djanggum, where did you get this weird idea that "they are regarded as 'Japanese' people because they devote majority of their time dedicating themselves to Japan instead of Korea?"
Bae Yong-joon, Choi Ji-woo, Boa, Ryu Shi-won, Park Yong-ha and many others are "worshipped" by the Japanese, and Koreans love and respect them for what they have done to promote "Hallyu"(Korean Wave) in Japan, traditonally the enemy country. They are not regarded as "Japanese" people. As far as I know, they always act with pride in being a Korean and so far none of them have acted improperly. Read the recent Washington Post article "Japanese women catch 'Korean Wave'", in which the WP reporter makes a detailed report about how Korean celebrities are wowing people all over Asia, especially people in Japan.
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Post by Kipper on Sept 8, 2006 1:46:42 GMT -5
thks djanggum for shedding some light on my questions. Well agree with you, LYA doesnt seems to be doing much in the movie/drama world recently except for some CFs..Really hope she will take to the big screen again soon. Personally i feel it would be better for her to act in movie or drama soon cox that will maintain her popularity in Asian countries. As for the "'Japanese' people" part, I kinda understand wat u mean..read it in some Korean online news before.
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Post by moreshige2 on Sept 8, 2006 8:14:19 GMT -5
Djanggum, where did you get this weird idea that "they are regarded as 'Japanese' people because they devote majority of their time dedicating themselves to Japan instead of Korea?" Bae Yong-joon, Choi Ji-woo, Boa, Ryu Shi-won, Park Yong-ha and many others are "worshipped" by the Japanese, and Koreans love and respect them for what they have done to promote "Hallyu"(Korean Wave) in Japan, traditonally the enemy country. They are not regarded as "Japanese" people. As far as I know, they always act with pride in being a Korean and so far none of them have acted improperly. Read the recent Washington Post article "Japanese women catch 'Korean Wave'", in which the WP reporter makes a detailed report about how Korean celebrities are wowing people all over Asia, especially people in Japan. Hallyu in general and the popularity of Korean men celebrities in asian countries has been old news. The washington post article is about a couple of years late on writing about this. The same news had already been circulating on news and fan forum websites for some time now. I'm just curious about korean celebrities who are definitely or noticeably more popular overseas only to a particular country like Japan than in Korea or elsewhere. That performer has more of an incentive to cater and promote himself/herself to that country's tastes. In the case with Boa, unlike other K-pop singers who are popular overseas, she has just as many Japanese translated songs as she does with her Korean songs. So she may look like she 'sold' out her Koreanness to the Japanese. We will never know her true motives, nor do I really care. LYA' s popularity is more widespread. So she's more 'international' than Boa and I would argue LYA doesn't have to downplay her 'koreanness'. In fact, it is exactly the opposite for LYA; her culture and character displayed through the drama, DJG is what helped her reach her popularity. Of course, I'm not saying that for Koreans to be popular they would only have to promote their culture. Take a look at Korean actors in America like those 'Lost' actors or Sandra Oh to name a few. We could argue that Sandra Oh is selling out to the Americans and Westerners in general! But of course she's not because 1.) she's Korean-American 2.) she never depended on her rising fame to the fact that she's Korean. (Maybe to a certain extent Asian, but that's another story) I can see why people say someone like Boa is 'Japanese' but we have to remember she just might be making a strategically lucrative move for herself.
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Post by kiparang on Sept 8, 2006 9:54:36 GMT -5
Moreshige, it may be an "old news" but is still valid news. As for a Hallyu star's "selling out" to a particular country(especially Japan), I haven't heard any. What is a Hallyu star without his/her "Koreanness"? He/she will lose the fan base in Korea, the very base which propelled his/her popularity overseas.
From my previous statement, I will make an exception of Boa. It seems that early last year, there was some controversy about her remarks about Dokto(Takeshima in Japanese). the island in dispute between Korea and Japan. When asked by a Japanese journalist to which country the island belongs to, she answered that "I don't know," instead of saying "It belongs to Korea." And some criticism about her being overly Japanese.
But then, there are people who ask whether she could be called a legitimate "Hallyu" star, as she was from the beginning(at the age of 12: she is now 19) groomed by her agency, SM Entertainment, to be a "Japanese" singer, singing in Japanese and catering to the Japanese taste.
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Post by guest on Sept 8, 2006 13:52:30 GMT -5
I know little bit about Sandra Oh since I knew her as a child long time ago while going to same Korean church in Ottawa, Canada. She is not American but Canadian. First of all, Sandra do not speak one word of Korean (atleast the last time I saw her) and does not have one bit of Korean-ness in her blood. And most of all, she got her start in acting business in Canadian movies and television. I don't think we can call her Hallyu at all. She broke into the western entertainment business on her own merits. She probably does not even know what "Dokdo" is.
Boa on other hand is bit disappointing. She was born and raised in Korea and it was the Korean SM entertainment company that created the image of Boa. Yet she seem to shun away her Korean-ness and shy away from Korean events in preferences to Japanese awards and show. Her earlier msg about Dokdo is very sad. When I watch her on Japanese TV, she seems so eager and energetic and yet when she is on Korean television, she seems be tired or "don't bother me" type of attitude.
Her popularity in Japan will not last forever and one day she will have to come back to her roots. The roots may not be there waiting for her.
I my opinion, LYA is the best. She is pretty, talented, and most of all, very modest. People will always have her in their hearts.
-fc
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Post by djanggum on Sept 8, 2006 16:12:46 GMT -5
I am a BoA fan too... and I think that she might be more energetic in japan because there aren't many antis in japan... and in korea, there are a lot of anti-BoA fans. i dont know. just my opinion... well her korean album IS coming out... i think it's spring 2007 though... that's what i heard... i guess she just goes back and forth with japan and korea... she made lots of singles in japan.. and 2 albums in korea... the past 2 yrs... overall, she's made over 40 albums and singles... wow.
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Post by moreshige2 on Sept 8, 2006 23:17:51 GMT -5
I know little bit about Sandra Oh since I knew her as a child long time ago while going to same Korean church in Ottawa, Canada. She is not American but Canadian. First of all, Sandra do not speak one word of Korean (atleast the last time I saw her) and does not have one bit of Korean-ness in her blood. And most of all, she got her start in acting business in Canadian movies and television. I don't think we can call her Hallyu at all. She broke into the western entertainment business on her own merits. She probably does not even know what "Dokdo" is -fc thanks fc, for the correction about Sandra Oh. I'm not saying she's Hallyu because by definition one has to gain popularity from the mother country (Korea) first. Sandra's country is Canada even though she's Korean by blood. I used her as a general point about 'selling out' one's heritage for the sake of another country/culture. But the more I think about it I forget to realize that for someone like Sandra, her culture is really a mix (ie. 95% canadian/american, 5% korean culture) since she was raised in Canada. For all practical purposes she had nothing to 'sell out' in the first place! lol ;D As for Boa, I find it ridiculous that she was even asked the question about "Dokdo". She's a teenage pop-singer for God's sake. That's like asking Britney Spears about her opinion about the war in Iraq. Who really cares? That Dokdo question was clearly asked to illicit some emotional response from her. The reporter or journalist who asked her about Dokdo might as well ask the real question plain and simple: "Who do you like better? Japan or Korea?" But of course, then that would not be real 'journalism'......lol
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Post by guest on Sept 9, 2006 2:42:47 GMT -5
Moreshige2, Yes, you are absolutely right. I did not think about that. The reporter was just looking for news material. Boa most likely is a sweet girl. I do find her performances on some Korean television to be less than full devotion and that bothered me though.
As a Korean, I am happy to see more Asian actors and actresses on television. However, I am not a fan of guys like "William Hung" who make Asian look like Jackasses.
-fc
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Post by djanggum on Sept 9, 2006 9:14:48 GMT -5
.... don't the wrong idea though... BoA works really hard... at the korea mtv awards, she worked so hard that she fainted after the performance... here is the link, it's called "Over the top"... youtube.com/watch?v=r7MsEpo2Cko
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Post by guest on Sept 10, 2006 19:40:28 GMT -5
djanggum, ok, you won me over with that video. But you know she does not work like that on every performances though. -fc
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