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Post by SirOwnzAlot on Jan 27, 2004 19:39:09 GMT -5
That Hye-sung guy and his crazy antics. That guy cracks me up. He's the best.
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Post by Soju on Jan 28, 2004 22:25:16 GMT -5
So, did he and Yu-kyung, uh, you know. . .? or did they only sneeze on each other all night? I was falling out of my chair during that whole scene ;D These two are my favorite plotline of the show!
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Post by redstone911 on Jan 29, 2004 1:28:57 GMT -5
I think they only sneezed at each other, yeah...heheheheh...but there is so much romantic tension between these two, it is only a matter of time before they are making really sweet music together....  I believe Yu-kyung is still struggling with her feelings...I don't think she even dreamed she would fall for someone like Hye-Sung! And for all that talk of marrying a rich woman someday, Hye-Sung probably didn't believe that to actually happen  From seeing them in action, I know now that love is blind, deaf, silly, and even a little mindless!  |
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Post by Lucy on Jan 29, 2004 11:52:17 GMT -5
Actually, I think that, much to my surprise, they did really " do it." I guess it's not considered proper to even show any kissing in these Korean dramas (but apparently you can show a man in his undershorts fall on top of a woman, hee-hee). But the reason I think they were intimate is the conversation afterwards, two days later. Yu-kyung uses the phrasing, "take responsibility for me" and "be responsible for you," which is what the characters in the subtitled K-dramas say when it is implied that a couple have had sex. Maybe, though, our dear subtitler, Michael, should weigh in on this and let us know what he thinks. After all, we don't know what was really said in Korean. I'm just going by what other characters in other dramas have said in the same situation.
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Post by yugin on Jan 29, 2004 18:19:23 GMT -5
;D YEAH, LUCY IS RIGHT. MY DAD WAS SITITNG AND WATCHING THIS DRAMA THAT NIGHT AND HE'S LIKE, "WHAT? I THOUGHT SEX WAS FORBIDDEN IN KOREAN DRAMS." IT WAS HILARIOUS, THE SCENE BETWEN THEM. ACTUALLY, THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME OF WINTER LOVE SONG/BALLAD/SONATA; AWESOME SHOW BY-THE-WAY. ANYWAY, THE WHOLE KISS BETWEEN JOON-SANG AND YU-GIN WAS CONTROVERSIAL IN KOREA FOR A WHILE. THEN, EVERYONE GOT OVER IT CAUSE IT'S TV.  |
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Post by SirOwnzAlot on Jan 29, 2004 22:27:27 GMT -5
I didn't think they "did it" because Hye-sung kissing Yu-kyung was a big deal. Sex would be too much of a giantic akward hurdle. So I think that ended with them sneezing on each other for a long while, then Yu-kyung finally gets him off her then she runs outta there.
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Post by JadeEyes on Jan 30, 2004 11:14:09 GMT -5
This question (did they or didn't they?) has been driving me nuts too!
On 1 hand, a lot of their conversation and private thoughts strongly suggest they were intimate, as Lucy points out. OTOH, I can hardly believe it could be true. As others have said, this would be a huge, huge leap for a Korean drama. But then, so is a gay landlord, IMO, who may or may not be attracted to a woman. Actually, I wonder if the question of just what happened between Yu-kung and Hye-sung is intended deliberately to be as ambiguous as the question of just what's going on with the landlord.
My only other thought is that perhaps because Yu-kung is a divorced mother who has obviously been intimate with a man before, the idea of her having premarital intimacy with someone else would not be considered quite as scandalous for Korean TV. I really don't know. It is quite puzzling, I must say.
Maybe you California viewers have the answer already, but perhaps upcoming conversations and plot developments will shed some light on the question and make its answer less ambiguous. I sure hope so.
Jade
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Post by nsheldon on Jan 30, 2004 12:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by JadeEyes on Jan 30, 2004 12:48:24 GMT -5
I can almost believe we are to infer intimacy *did* occur because this series seems to be pushing the envelope, i.e. the questionable orientation of the landlord, a divorced mother and now a question about a woman's "time of the month". I don't know if a woman's reproductive cycle has ever been referred to this directly on a Korean daily drama before, but it seems like a first to me.
I find it conceivable this drama is pushing the limits of what the genre has allowed in the past...therefore I can almost believe they could be going for the deed occuring between YK and HS.
LOL! In message preview, the silly thing censored the word deed when I put it inside quotes. Ack! I thought by wording it and writing that way, I myself was censoring the real word accordingly. Too much!
Jade
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Post by jenny on Jan 30, 2004 13:21:56 GMT -5
When Hye-sung asked himself "Was I bad?" the morning after when they were eating noodles, I just thought it was my dirty American imagination that made me think he was questioning his.... preformance. Since this is a Korean drama, the most logical explanation for that comment was he thought he was bad for falling on his boss in his underware. But after that conversation about taking responsibility, I don't know what to think! Did he really sleep with his BOSS? If a kiss is controversial in Korea, what are they saying about this?! |
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Post by mikey on Jan 30, 2004 14:20:18 GMT -5
When this scene aired in Los Angeles a few weeks ago, my first reaction was “No way!” I couldn’t imagine they’d suggest the possibility of (ahem) “intimate relations” between an unmarried couple in a Korean drama when (as Jenny noted) even a simple kiss seems to be so scandalous.
But, after a few days, I was starting to wonder. Sure seems like *something* happened that night between them. Nsheldon is right, though: it never was really explained, so I guess that we the viewers are expected to decide for ourselves. Pretty daring, in any case, for a Korean drama.
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Post by nsheldon on Jan 30, 2004 16:47:28 GMT -5
Well, since 'they' have decided to NOT explain or clarify if sex occurred between Hye sung & Yu kyung then I suppose we are free to assume either way. I forgot that Hye sung had asked if he was 'bad' the next day. I can't imagine that ANYONE in Korea would dare ask such a question. I think they want to mess with our minds and make us question the possibility of a sexual act. Oh.... Yugin - You watch this w/your dad? I think that is great, considering most teenagers & parents don't see eye to eye on TV shows, movies, music, etc.. I compliment you..... |
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Post by redstone911 on Jan 30, 2004 16:55:50 GMT -5
Actually, I think that, much to my surprise, they did really " do it." I guess it's not considered proper to even show any kissing in these Korean dramas (but apparently you can show a man in his undershorts fall on top of a woman, hee-hee). But the reason I think they were intimate is the conversation afterwards, two days later. Yu-kyung uses the phrasing, "take responsibility for me" and "be responsible for you," which is what the characters in the subtitled K-dramas say when it is implied that a couple have had sex. Maybe, though, our dear subtitler, Michael, should weigh in on this and let us know what he thinks. After all, we don't know what was really said in Korean. I'm just going by what other characters in other dramas have said in the same situation. Now that you put it that way...hmmm...I wonder...did they or didn't they....I think the writers were trying to tease the viewers with this little incident.... Yeah, that piece of dialogue about "taking responsibility" does remind me of Tae-young and Mir-yung in YELLOW HANDKERCHIEF, so one could safely assume that perhaps HS and YK did make out that night, but on the other hand, she did go into his room and started acting as though she were a lot more than just the person he worked for, and that to me means crossing beyond the professional line separating a company president and her assistant, and perhaps the mere act of drying him up (putting her hands on his body) could somehow be construed as implying some level of "intimacy", from their perspective, that is....perhaps, within Korean culture, only wives or close GFs are suppose to do things like that...... And I just can't imagine Hye-Sung actually initiating something with Yu-kyung until he is very sure she actually had feelings for him.....He kissed her before, and got kicked in the shin in return..... |
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Post by galacticchick on Jan 30, 2004 17:45:42 GMT -5
I'm with the *they did* column. All the verbal clues are being given to us w/out the need of us actually having to see it.
The taking responsibility is, in my viewing experience, synonomous w/characters having relations so...
And then when Yu-kyung said to HK if he felt he got the short end of the stick, I am assuming she was referring to the fact that he was probably a virgin (as is not uncommon in K-dramas) and she was already a divorcee (aka she knew what she was doing). And HK told her something about "I don't know what came over me."
Yep, it seems like they did it to me.
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Post by redstone911 on Jan 30, 2004 19:17:43 GMT -5
Hmmmm...I will have to review that episode again... Then again, YK was looking at him all goo-goo eyed while they were walking in the rain...and quietly recalling scenes of them together...Ohhhhhh, I am beginning to believe that they really DID IT, and the following day, Hye-Sung couldn't quite handle what had happened..... I wonder if KBS has some lost footage tucked away in a vault somewhere....I definitely will be keeping close tabs on the episodes leading to eps. 57! |
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