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Post by ajk on Apr 30, 2022 11:36:22 GMT -5
Here we go guys, final weekend! Hoping for a strong finish...Episode 31 will be up on Kocowa in the next few hours with subs. As usual, be sure to watch it in 24 hours before they put it behind their paywall.
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Post by sageuk on Apr 30, 2022 16:39:30 GMT -5
I don’t know about you all, but even knowing that he doesn’t succeed in saving his father-in-law, it was cathartic seeing Sejong going against his father.
Also I get the feeling that there are some regrets about how the opening scene for the series turned out, so they’re just ignoring it all together. Could be wrong though.
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Post by ajk on Apr 30, 2022 22:50:36 GMT -5
“I am sending you into exile for defending the crown prince’s misdeeds.” OK do you credit Hwang Hui for sticking to his principles even in the face of severe punishment? Or do you call him an idiot for telling a king who wasn’t the oldest son that the only right thing to do is install the oldest son? Geez look at how well the kid can shoot arrows...it’s a shame he didn’t ask to resign his position and get a military job. I wonder if the real Yangnyeong shot like that. Choongnyeong’s wife has a unique face, doesn’t she? I have trouble with recognizing faces but she’s one I’d never confuse. “I have sacrificed the lives of all of my uncles, but still things have turned out this way.” There’s been way too much crying in this series but here was one moment where you could accept it. We didn’t really think about this aspect of it all until just now. It was very sad. It would have been a lot sadder if it weren’t for the unremorseful letter he wrote...or maybe that made it sadder as well. And of course Yangnyeong just had to be leaving as Choongnyeong was walking into the palace. Of course he did. And hey had to have a confrontation. Of course they did. UGH. The scene of the queen leaving the palace, that was very well done. One of the best scenes of the series. ■ In 1418, the 10th day of the 8th month of the lunar calendar, Lee Bangwon hands over the throne to Crown Prince Lee Do. Lee Bangwon became the Abdicated King, and entrusted all his power to the new king. However, he still kept the military power for now. Now about that transfer-of-seal scene...have we ever had a bigger continuity problem in any historical ever? We saw this happen in the first scene of the series and here it’s completely different. Obviously they realized that their first version made no sense and was beyond salvaging—which it was--so they chose to ignore it and give us a fresh one. Really there was no good way out of the problem, and this was probably the best of bad options. I’m still amazed that anybody approved the first scene. (When the series gets re-aired or re-streamed in the future, I wonder if they’ll replace the original first scene with this one.) “You said you wish to appoint your father-in-law Chief State Councilor.” Really? Doesn’t he realize the trouble this could cause? Maybe I missed something there. And the other odd thing was, you’d think the people who were partying at Shim On’s house would have been a little more sensitive to the situation and not been there, or swarmed around him when he left for Ming. Everybody knows what Bangwon did to his own in-laws; did nobody learn anything from that? This whole part of the story wasn’t presented too well, frankly. Ah there we go, poles to the thighs, our old friend... ...and looky, now they’re just stepping on his thighs. We’re getting a real variety show lately! Well at least this time the confrontational ending had some real substance behind it. A totally legitimate cliffhanger.
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Post by truth on Apr 30, 2022 23:12:16 GMT -5
And the other odd thing was, you’d think the people who were partying at Shim On’s house would have been a little more sensitive to the situation and not been there, or swarmed around him when he left for Ming. Everybody knows what Bangwon did to his own in-laws; did nobody learn anything from that? This whole part of the story wasn’t presented too well, frankly. People partying at Shim On's house immediately after he was appointed as the Chief State Councilor did not happen in history. But people did swarm around him when he left for Ming. Shim On was killed under a false accusation, but he never tried to be careful as he is shown to be in the drama. ■ In 1418, the 10th day of the 8th month of the lunar calendar, Lee Bangwon hands over the throne to Crown Prince Lee Do. Lee Bangwon became the Abdicated King, and entrusted all his power to the new king. However, he still kept the military power for now. Taejong was the last king to voluntarily abdicate the throne to his son while the king was still alive. I think it was possible for Taejo, Jeongjong, and Taejong to abdicate the throne since they weren't born royals. They weren't born royals so they were used to not being kings. King was like another job title for them. Lee Bangwon even took a civil exam like his court officials did and served as low ranking official in his young days. For the rest of the Joseon royal bloodline, they were born royals and being a royal was the the only life they knew, so the practice of voluntarily abdicating stopped after Taejong.
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Post by ajk on May 1, 2022 12:48:26 GMT -5
That's a very good point...royalty wasn't instilled into their brains from birth so their mindsets probably were very different.
So even Shim On himself wasn't careful? That really is remarkable. He certainly knew what happened to the previous set of in-laws. It's almost like natural selection lol....
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Post by sageuk on May 1, 2022 13:06:18 GMT -5
People don’t always learn from historry
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