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Post by ajk on Dec 16, 2021 18:09:58 GMT -5
I can put up a thread for it...if nothing else it will give us a place to post a link for the movie.
Tell you what, I'll stop the film for now and will get to LBKT episode 2 tonight, and finish the film tomorrow and post a thread.
So far VERY impressed by the film, you weren't kidding.
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Post by truth on Dec 28, 2021 21:52:33 GMT -5
President of KBS recently stated in an article that there is a possibility that the traditional historical succeeding this drama could be Hong Beomdo and it will consist of only 10 episodes if they do decide to make the series. Hong Beomdo was a Korean independence fighter who was born during Joseon Dynasty(King Gojong's reign) and died 2 years before Korea's independence from Japan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Beom-doThis drama has officially been confirmed now. However, it won't be succeeding Lee Bangwon. It will run on separate timeslot and will start around August 15th(Korean Independence Day) to commemorate Korean Independence. There's a rumor that the traditional historical that will succeed LBW is going to be about Emperor Hyeonjong of Goryeo. This comes from the same person who posted the rumor of KBS traditional returning months before official article, so there's a good chance of this being true. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyeonjong_of_GoryeoThere's also a rumor of Jeong Dojeon's writer returning with a drama about Sambyeolcho, but it won't be on KBS. He wrote Green Bean Flower for SBS last time, so maybe it'll be SBS again? It most likely wouldn't be a traditional historical in that case. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SambyeolchoTell you what, I'll stop the film for now and will get to LBKT episode 2 tonight, and finish the film tomorrow and post a thread. So far VERY impressed by the film, you weren't kidding. Did you finish the film?
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Post by sageuk on Dec 28, 2021 23:17:13 GMT -5
I want the Sambyeolcho rumor to be true AND want it to be a traditional historical.
Can you blame me?
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Post by ajk on Dec 30, 2021 23:50:36 GMT -5
I had always been happy about the possibility of a Hyeonjong drama. But now I realize that it might be just a retelling of events already shown in Iron Empress. He died not long after she did so there may not be much more to cover.
According to the timeline I put together there's a gap of nearly 150 years between IE and Age of Warriors that has never been covered by a historical drama. Apparently it wasn't a very eventful period so maybe it wouldn't make for the most interesting series...but hopefully we don't simply get an IE reboot.
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Post by ajk on Dec 30, 2021 23:54:05 GMT -5
BTW very sorry I dropped the ball on this, things got weird at home...I'll get to it later on, right after LBKT ends. Wanted to start back from the beginning . Absolutely won't forget about it.
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Post by truth on Dec 31, 2021 0:11:01 GMT -5
I had always been happy about the possibility of a Hyeonjong drama. But now I realize that it might be just a retelling of events already shown in Iron Empress. He died not long after she did so there may not be much more to cover. According to the timeline I put together there's a gap of nearly 150 years between IE and Age of Warriors that has never been covered by a historical drama. Apparently it wasn't a very eventful period so maybe it wouldn't make for the most interesting series...but hopefully we don't simply get an IE reboot. Iron Empress had too much historical distortion. Story has to be retold on Hyeonjong's point-of-view in a historicaly accurate manner. I don't think Hyeonjong drama would be an IE reboot, because I don't think drama with Hyeonjong as main protagonist would depict IE as a Joan-of-Arc type of figure, which she wasn't, and she would most likely be a villain in this drama. In IE, Kim Chiyang tries to kill young Hyeonjong and IE saves him from assassination attempts. Historically, it was IE who tried to kill young Hyeonjong. Plus, it's already been 12 years since IE. That's a very long time. There have been 5 Late Goryeo-Early Joseon period dramas in the last 12 years (Great Seer, Jeong Dojeon, Six Flying Dragons, My Country, Lee Bangwon). 0 Hyeonjong drama. Peaceful and prosperous time period between IE and Age of Warriors happened due to Hyeonjong's achievements. He was equivalent to Goryeo's King Sejong. I would say he deserves his own drama.
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Post by ajk on Jan 1, 2022 18:34:16 GMT -5
Has it been twelve years? Wow time flies...I still remember KBS suddenly vanishing from the Chicago airwaves and gradually realizing it wasn't coming back. That was awful.
I do remember the extent of the distortion that IE had, and the very questionable premise...we had plenty of discussion in the IE board about it. Hyeonjong wasn't a big player in that series; he didn't even become emperor until episode 71 of 78. I do seem to remember that his stuff in the series was pretty accurate, but obviously there wasn't time for much of him.
If enough is known about him to fill a series, then great let's have it. I just wasn't sure that there was enough. He's not mentioned a lot in the English-language books I've read.
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Post by MTR on Jan 5, 2022 13:31:59 GMT -5
IE was our first real taste of a fusion drama (though it was presented as a trad historical).Lets not forget it was awful and set the bar for stuff like Seondeok and Empress Ki . After trying to sit through Queen Insoo (stick with The King And I)i never want to see Chae Si Ra in anything again (Well i would watch King And Queen and 500 Years Of Joseon Pamun ).
The one i would really like to see is Dawn Of The Empire. I came really close, a very good person sent me the series on VHS to borrow. Sadly my own VHS player died and i moved shortly after that so i sent the tapes back without watching .
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Post by mugwump on Jan 5, 2022 18:25:50 GMT -5
I watched some episodes of Dawn of the Empire on our local TV station a long, long time ago, when I didn't know anything about Korean history or Korean historical dramas. It seemed like every scene showed a different bunch of men sitting around a table discussing what the emperor had done or what he was about to do. It was pretty boring, although I found the actor playing the emperor to be charismatic. Now that I have many years' experience with these dramas, I think I'd try watching it again, if we ever found a place that had it with subs.
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Post by MTR on Jan 5, 2022 22:19:21 GMT -5
Its the bridge between Wang Guhn and Iron Empress, several of the characters from EWG spill over into this (different actors in the roles though ). I know at the time it did not get the warmest reception but look at all the drivel we have endured the last few years ?. If anything its a point of interest for the time period and t cant be worse than IE.
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Post by sageuk on Jan 6, 2022 9:09:27 GMT -5
I want to watch Dawn of the Empire primarily for Kim Sangjoong's performance as Gwangjong.
I also want to see his transition into a man who is so filled with anger it leads him to spilling lots of blood.
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Post by MTR on Jan 6, 2022 22:21:45 GMT -5
He is a real interesting one . Starts out a model King and than turns and carries out bloody purges .Choi Chul Ho played him in Empress but there was zero character development or explanation as to why he turned cruel .
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Post by sageuk on Jan 7, 2022 1:27:28 GMT -5
Gwangjong appears in a flashback in IE, but he isn't played by Choi Chul-ho. Choi Chul-ho plays his son and successor, Gyeongjong.
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Post by simisteve on Jan 24, 2022 23:51:44 GMT -5
I remember Dawn of the Empire and it was largely forgotten the last time it was discussed here when developing the Historical Drama Timeline. And it was in an unenviable position having to be the immediate sequel to the epic EWG. It first episode dealt with the death of EWG and the carryover of the royal house to the new king. Most of the show dealt with the kings continuing struggle to try to meld one empire out of the restive Bekjae & Shilla lords and counsels. Especially Shilla, which insisted that their culture (and way of doing things) was superior. Towards the end of the series (I'm talking like in the last couple episodes) the king got so angry as to threaten death (and he may have had some scholars and lords killed) for continuing to talk of the prior kingdoms.
The voice-over at the end of the series (and I remember this pretty clearly), summed it up as something like "He was a good king, but could also be a tyrant". IIRC, Age of Warriors followed this series next and left DoTE pretty much in its dust.
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Post by truth on Oct 22, 2023 13:23:16 GMT -5
Not terribly thrilled with the choice of content, frankly...is it going to be Tears of the Dragon lite? We already have Jeong Dojeon and Great King Sejong and yes definitely it would be better to not revisit that material. Tears of the Dragon was 25 years ago so maybe they think it's fair game by now. Well whatever, anything at all will be wonderful after this ridiculously long wait. Yippee! Rumor about traditional historical returning has actually been going around for the past 6 months. I just didn't want to mention it here until it became official to prevent taking away everyone's hopes and dreams if the rumor wasn't real. Rumor started becoming more towards real news 2 months ago, when there was an article on KBS thinking about returning a traditional historical with 3 possible choices as main character. 1. King Jeongjo of Joseon(Jeong Yak Yong, which was supposed to air in 2017, would have covered his era had it not been canceled) 2. King Taejong of Joseon 3. Emperor Hyeonjong of Goryeo (Era covered in IE, but Empress Cheonchu was the main character in IE) Once again, I didn't want to post anything here until KBS released an official article. There is a rumor that the traditional historical after Goryeo-Khitan War will feature King Jeongjo as main character. If true, they are basically going ahead with all of the 3 people that they lined up as main characters when they were first discussing the return of traditional historical.
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