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Post by truth on Nov 30, 2016 1:09:15 GMT -5
That does certainly sound like it wouldn't get done in time. I wonder if anybody will try to do it anyway, if only out of spite. Either way it's sad to see that this is going to drag out for another year. The Korean left will try to do it. There's a talk about impeachment from them already. I just don't see it actually happening when majority of the National Assembly seats are held by the same party as Park.
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Post by sageuk on Dec 9, 2016 15:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by truth on Dec 9, 2016 19:15:38 GMT -5
I guess I was wrong, but they still have to go through the court's decision which is going to take 180 days. If the court says no, she is reinstated as president.
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Post by ajk on Dec 11, 2016 21:36:12 GMT -5
Well what pushed this through was the outpouring of anger from the people. You get huge public demonstrations like that, there will always be some politicians whose knees immediately go weak.
Gotta say I'm very impressed with the people of that country for standing up so strongly for their principles. Was amazed at how many people traveled from other cities to be counted. Whatever anybody thinks about her staying or going, it's something to be proud of.
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Post by sageuk on Dec 12, 2016 1:57:17 GMT -5
A former classmate of mine was one of the many protestors
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Post by truth on Dec 12, 2016 2:33:58 GMT -5
Well what pushed this through was the outpouring of anger from the people. You get huge public demonstrations like that, there will always be some politicians whose knees immediately go weak. Gotta say I'm very impressed with the people of that country for standing up so strongly for their principles. Was amazed at how many people traveled from other cities to be counted. Whatever anybody thinks about her staying or going, it's something to be proud of. The Korean left will probably win the next election now. I don't like Park but I don't like the Korean left either. I don't like any Korean politician to be honest, but Korean left is going to be worse than her in my opinion. The last time Korea had a "progressive" president, Korea was full of anti-American sentiment with anti-American protests going on all the time. Korea has much more firm relationship with the US under a conservative president. Robert Gates, the Secretary of Defense under George Bush, called the last Korean liberal president Roh Moo Hyun "anti-American" and "a little crazy." freekorea.us/2014/01/14/gates-roh-moo-hyun-was-anti-american-and-a-little-crazy-and-lee-myung-bak-wanted-to-bomb-the-crap-out-of-kim-jong-il/#sthash.4Aeu5XYO.dpbs Expected candidate for the main Korean liberal party is Roh's best friend who also served in his Cabinet and I fear the worst with Trump being elected as the next US president. This man may actually pull US troops out of Korea like he said he would during the campaign if the Korean liberal party gets elected and acts the same way towards US as the last liberal president did. As corrupted as Park is, her party is the best for US-Korea relationship, especially at this point in time when someone like Trump is about to become the US president.
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Post by ajk on Dec 12, 2016 11:32:31 GMT -5
Very interesting...and you're right, it could get extremely uncomfortable in the near future. The one thing we can count on is that the Republicans in our Congress will push back hard if Trump tries to soften our stand against NK. It would end up being a huge fight between them if Trump tries anything.
I remember Roh and all of those protests. I couldn't understand what those people saw as a better alternative.
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Post by truth on Dec 12, 2016 13:47:05 GMT -5
I remember Roh and all of those protests. I couldn't understand what those people saw as a better alternative. Those anti-American protests magically disappeared after the 1st year of Lee Myung-Bak, the conservative president who came right after Roh's presidiency. Americans used to say they were Canadians while living in Korea during Roh's time in office, which is no longer the case. Those people wanted closer relationship with NK and "independence" from "American imperialism." I remember my friend voting for Park in the last election saying "I hate Park, but she is the lesser of two evils. You don't want to go through whole pro-NK anti-American fiasco of Kim Dae-Jung(Korea's 1st liberal president) and Roh again, do you?"
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Post by sageuk on Dec 12, 2016 16:43:14 GMT -5
Hell no. That's the furthest thing from my mind.
My parents are very anti-Roh Moo-hyun. My father claimed that he practically gave money to the North Korean regime. In fact, when news of his suicide came, my mother remarked "Good."
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Post by truth on Dec 12, 2016 18:12:41 GMT -5
Hell no. That's the furthest thing from my mind. My parents are very anti-Roh Moo-hyun. My father claimed that he practically gave money to the North Korean regime. In fact, when news of his suicide came, my mother remarked "Good." Unfornatunately, Roh's best buddy is currently no.1 in polls due to Park screwing up her party's image.
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Post by ajk on Dec 13, 2016 21:04:48 GMT -5
Dang...Well that's one thing we all can learn from this: Never piss off sageuk's mom!
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Post by sageuk on Jan 20, 2017 11:01:54 GMT -5
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Post by ajk on Jan 20, 2017 13:15:23 GMT -5
What do you think the court will decide? I understand that her lawyers may try to delay things because two of the justices will be stepping down in March because their terms are up.
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Post by sageuk on Mar 9, 2017 21:56:04 GMT -5
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Post by ajk on Mar 10, 2017 1:45:29 GMT -5
This whole thing was very impressive. Congrats to the South Korean people for making it happen. It's a terrible thing for a country to have to toss out its leader no matter what the reason, but it was pretty clear she had to go and the people spoke loud and clear.
You wonder what the people across the border are thinking right now.
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