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Post by MTR on Jun 19, 2012 11:38:51 GMT -5
Yes i know it was a joke but saw a moment to run with it i was hoping you would play along could have confused a lot of people and had fun with this ...oh well next time .
Actually the rockabilly idea would totally work that is a really good call because you know right off the bat you cannot compete with that voice so you take it in another direction when the cover is allowed to stand on its own ,think young Tiff's handlers should have thought that way instead of trying to match it .
Its interesting because we are looking at manufactured music for the masses we can trace this all the way back to the 60's be it Liverpool (scousers ...bin dippers ) or California with Surf and Bleach Boys through the 70's the songwriting team of Chin Chapmann manufactured glam yes you had Bowie and Roxy (yes a certain Mr Ferry was a substitute teacher at the hell hole we called school ) but than there was Sweet ,Arrow's and of course the Idol stuff like Osmonds and Bay City Rollers even the Punk epoch was very much manufactured dissent moving to the 80's the flood of boy bands New Kids .N Synch than into the 90's with the emergence of J Pop and the manufacturing house of Johny's Jimushu of which Smap became the flagship group and the all girl Morning Musume still going today operating in a similar way to Menudo once you hit your 20's your out even though the ousted members stayed with the management house as solo artists or older girl groups . J Pop never pursued the interest from other markets like their film industry very insular by the next decade the genre had been made redundant with the emergence of K Pop on a somewhat global scale ,K Pop is massive in Peru,Brazil and other South American nations but Europe remains uninterested ,and as far as here it is highly unlikely to ever achieve more than cult status ,despite growing interest and attempts to break Rain ,Boa ,Wonder Girls and Girls generation the mainstream has shown little interest in playing the product .
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Post by TheBo on Jun 19, 2012 13:10:46 GMT -5
Yes, I need to head back there and crack some heads, they just aren't on the job. LOL...
I don't know if you watch Glee, but they make the same mistake there, trying to ape the original singer (or even some cover singer who did something original with a song). It's boring to do that.
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Post by MTR on Jun 19, 2012 13:32:33 GMT -5
No on Glee once again as with everything over here you get a great first season than its run into the ground and becomes a almost a parody of what it was the originality is gone ,which is another factor in Korea's favor they are astute enough to know this and even when a show gets great ratings its better to do something else (like use the same story with other actors and another name ).
Question for Knov speaking of influential ,The Korean Madonna ,forget her name she has been around since the 8O''s and just made a comeback last year ..what is her name ?
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Post by TheBo on Jun 19, 2012 14:20:18 GMT -5
LOL are you saying "no I don't watch Glee" or just a general "NO ON GLEE!" You know, because it's cr-p. Either way, you're right, they've run it into the ground, it should have been limited run. But that's just not how television works here, no matter the excellent examples we have in British and Korean TV, and then we stand around with our thumbs up our noses saying, "Why is our TV so cruddy compared to theirs?" LOL...
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Post by bird11 on Jun 19, 2012 18:30:26 GMT -5
Which song did Bay Yong Jun sing in Winter Sonata? One of my favorite OST's and one of the first dramas I watched........
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Post by MTR on Jun 20, 2012 3:15:29 GMT -5
No Glee for me on Glee never watched it . Think this is the Winter Sonata song My Memory www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtvPlQJa5JcBoy did this one ever ratchet up the pathos and tragedy ,as far as modern day dramas go this is pretty much in a class of its own with the total turmoil the leads went through ,there is a reason why its still the biggest modern day drama ,they even have a theme park and that park with the pathway and trees on either side is now one of the worlds top romantic spots .
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Post by Knov1 on Jun 20, 2012 3:29:34 GMT -5
Question for Knov speaking of influential ,The Korean Madonna ,forget her name she has been around since the 8O''s and just made a comeback last year ..what is her name ? Do you mean Kim Wan Sun? She's been around since the 80's and released a new single last year.
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Post by TheBo on Jun 20, 2012 11:58:52 GMT -5
Okay, so BYJ didn't actually sing "My Memory," did he? If he had, I'd think the video would include some footage of him doing it--I assume it's a fanvid. Is that a real term or did I make it up? Nice, makes me want to go back and watch the show again (3rd or fourth time). Winter Sonata was a real quality item, not like some of what has followed, despite the crazy-arse premise. And add, what DYC said.
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Post by MTR on Jun 20, 2012 13:44:42 GMT -5
Oh i don't know and lets face it i just did not have the moral fortitude to dig through at least 4 hours of fan vids and tributes and if you think Sonata is bad take a look at the Seondeok tributes . I just typed in Winter Sonata OST and this i recall was the most famous song or one off the whole OST was famous anyway . For the record i liked the instrumental versions much better because you can clearly see the influence of all these 60's composers like Michelle Le Grand ,Francis Lai and the duffer who wrote Love is Blue who's name obviously escapes me at this point ..no wait Paul Mauriet or similar and the vocal kind of killed it ,In many ways i saw the drama as an homage to films like A Man And A Woman , in story and style but as soon as the vocals came in it was "hit the mute button " as slushy lyrics are not my thing a 3 minute ode to the end of everything we know and the impending eternal night complete with catchy sing a long chorus is much more fun . Thanks Knov it is Kim Wan Sun still looks and sounds great .
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Post by bird11 on Jun 20, 2012 15:33:51 GMT -5
I also have the OST from Summer Scent,and I am currently watching Spring Waltz. One of my other favorite OST's is Kingdom of the Wind. It can be so realaxing just to listen to the "orchestra" music playing. That OST also has a song by Weesung and I really like to listen to that. A lot of the music I listen to has come from dramas, either as OST's or ater seeing singer in the drama, I look into them more. Like SS501 and others I can't recall at the moment....
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Post by MTR on Jun 20, 2012 16:17:51 GMT -5
I also like Kingdom Of The Wind it has a great score . Other great scores i really like The Great King Sejong Women Under The Sun Emperor Of The Sea Hateful But Once Again Yi San Iris Chuno Dae Jo Young Seo Don Yo Daemang /Great Ambition Jang Gil Sang Thats a few that come to mind .
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Post by Knov1 on Jun 20, 2012 18:51:28 GMT -5
Hmm...favorite K-Drama OST's? Anything with Oh Hyun Ran on it lol. But, seriously, her songs are some of my favorites. I've listened to OST's for K-Dramas that I haven't even watched because she does songs for them. "Song of Passion" from the SBS drama New Tales of Kisaeng and "Remember" from the SBS drama What Happened in Bali are 2 of her songs that you should listen to. She's also on the OST's for 49 Days, Rebirth and When Tomorrow Comes. Oh Hyun Ran - Song of Passion (from SBS New Tales of Kisaeng OST) Note: There's another version of this song by Kim Ye Won (aka Kim Shin Ah). Oh Hyun Ran - Remember (from SBS What Happened in Bali OST) Oh Hyun Ran - Again (from KBS Rebirth OST) Some of my favorite OST's in general are: KBS Winter Sonata KBS I'm Sorry, I Love You MBC Damo SBS 49 Days SBS Secret Garden SBS Stairway to Heaven SBS What Happened in Bali
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Post by TheBo on Jun 21, 2012 12:18:08 GMT -5
DYC I completely agree with you about "Love is Blue" and "My Memory"--the vocals were entirely unnecessary. Maybe for ANY of that easy listening genre. I do love the OST for WS, and I really, really, really love the OST from Dae Jang-geum. They are nice to listen to.
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Post by MTR on Jun 21, 2012 14:30:26 GMT -5
The Sonata soundtrack is beautiful ,haunting and has this great Le Grande ,Morricone ,Lai Euro feel to it but it works in its instrumental format not with vocals . I have this thing for 60's instrumental MOR stuff ..funny i used to hate that music but have developed an appreciation for it over time ,there are a couple of vocal versions of Love Is Blue (which would not be out of place on the Sonata score ) which really do work ,considering i much prefer instrumental versions but the first is by Sylvie Vartan and she knocks this out of the ball park www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMvbfpWjNc The second is by 1970's Japanese folkies The Junk Fellows which despite the name i can assure you they are wholesome and never touched the stuff ..no Lou Reed fixation ,another claim to fame by the Fellows is they used a violin bow on guitar before Jimmy Page got the idea and took it to self indulgent extremes ,anyway their version of Blue really works as well ..very haunting . www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xPpbSL1mCQ Its funny a very good friend of mine wrote that song Wicked Game for Chris Isaak which was of course on the Wild at Heart soundtrack and became a huge hit ,originally the song was written as an instrumental and inspired by Spaghetti Western soundtracks ,probably for legal reasons i cannot get into how he was forced to sell the rights to the song which i was kind of stunned at the time ,suffice to say this type of stuff happens in the music biz all the time ,but once again the original instrumental version (not the one used in the film ) was far superior to the vocal hit version and sadly that version can never be heard .
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Post by truth on Jun 21, 2012 16:07:52 GMT -5
im into korean rock bands like YB, Nemesis, Vanilla Unity, Pia, Transfixion as well as solo rock singers like Kim Kyung Ho, Park Wan Kyu, and Seo Taiji. But then again, I like all kinds of music. I'm not too into idol music though.
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