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Post by gene on Jun 6, 2012 16:55:08 GMT -5
So it is Yoon Jae mom. It seems she was taken away by force by Yoon Jae's father in place of Kang Wook's mom and she suffers a memory loss due to the trauma. I think she will sympathise with Yeon Hwa whose son was forcefully taken from her and helped her later. I don't know whether Kang Wook's mom will join forces with Yoo Ra. I was wondering why Yoon Jae, Kang Wook's mom nor Yoo Ra's grandma didn't recognized her.
I thought Yeon Hwa revealing Park Chang Dul corrupt ways through Yoo Ra's computer was a good move. Now that Yoo Ra's dad is knows about what Yoo Ra did to Tae Yang. If Park Chang Dul falls, they won't be spared too because he will spill the beans.
The part where Yeon Hwa throw the money in Yoo Ra's face was classic.
Now Yeon Hwa's mom is moving again. The game is on. So exciting.
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Post by Knov1 on Jun 6, 2012 18:29:42 GMT -5
I've found the last few episodes painful to watch. All the meetings Yeon Hwa has had with Yoo Ra and until now she thinks to use a camera to record Park Chang Du's activities.
Regarding Yeon Hwa using Yoo Ra's computer, security cameras would show that Yoo Ra left the room. Yeon hwa was the only one there at the time. The only way this makes any sense is if Yeon Hwa doesn't care if she gets caught. She's betting that Yoo Ra won't want to open pandora's box by using security footage to prove it wasn't her. Either way, Park Chang Du would still be in trouble.
Unless Kang Wook doesn't care about J Cosmetics anymore, not sure how having Yeon Hwa there is going to help him. Why would anyone on the board want her there? You just rehired a former corporate spy, that possibly killed Yoon Hee, was engaged to the former CEO and crashed his weeding. The corportate spy and Yoon Hee's death stuff isn't true but that's what the public perception is. The image of the company is already bad enough as it is. Why would anyone want to do business with them? The whole thing is just silly.
I'm never watching another drama that Yeo Jung Mi has any involvement in. She's a horrible writer. I give tvN credit for hiring a female director and writer but they should have gotten a better writer.
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Post by rdb8329 on Jun 6, 2012 21:23:04 GMT -5
I agree with knov1, the writing isn't good, but I still wanna see some payback! Well if the company is that bad wait till they find out who killed yoon here! I agree this weeks episode was hard to watch but today's somewhat allievated my suffering somewhat.
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Post by gene on Jun 6, 2012 21:43:54 GMT -5
Unless Kang Wook doesn't care about J Cosmetics anymore, not sure how having Yeon Hwa there is going to help him. Why would anyone on the board want her there? You just rehired a former corporate spy, that possibly killed Yoon Hee, was engaged to the former CEO and crashed his weeding. The corporate spy and Yoon Hee's death stuff isn't true but that's what the public perception is. The image of the company is already bad enough as it is. Why would anyone want to do business with them? The whole thing is just silly. Not sure of the details which is why I wish the episodes would be translated so I can watch it in detail but I guess Yeon Hwa getting fired was kept hushed and not publicized because she is Yoon Jae's ex-fiancee. Unless it was publicized during court hearing. Most on the board Yoon Jae, Kang Wook, Yoo Ra's grandma, Kang Wook's mom) knows that she's is being framed. Yoo Ra will not dare raise the corporate spy issue. Yeon Hwa is pushing Yoo Ra's panic button by being in J Cosmetics. Yeon Hwa is going to mess Yoo Ra's mind by being in close vicinity with Yoon Jae. Yeon Hwa doesn't care that Yoo Ra knows about her using the computer but I don't think Yoo Ra can prove it as I don't think security cameras are placed inside offices but along corridors. Plus, she did came back and turn on her computer. She is trying to create distrust between Park Chang Dul and Yoo Ra. Even if Park Chang Dul got away scot-free this time, he won't be able to be a cop anymore. Kang Wook is atoning for his mom's sins. I don't think he ever wants to be CEO of J Cosmetics in the first place. |
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Post by gene on Jun 7, 2012 20:48:03 GMT -5
Finally Yeon Hwa moved mom and Su Ae out of the house with Kang Wook and Tae Il's help. I was wondering what documents she was trying to find at Yoo Ra's father's office. What did Yoo Ra says on the phone to Yeon Hwa (thinking it was her grandma)?
Yoo Ra is in a panic state now, trying to cover up her tracks/involvement with Tae Yang's fake death (like to know in more details what phone calls Yoo Ra made to whom), forgetting that Yeon Hwa is attacking another front - ie. the company.
Park Chang Dul was too complacent, thinking he was infallible that's why Yeon Hwa was able to catch him in his act.
The writer is going down the road where there is no redemption for Yoo Ra and utter annihilation of her family and Park Chang Dul is justifiable. Yoo Ra will either commit suicide or end up in asylum in prison.
Question: The preview at the end of episode 59, Yeon Hwa was on the phone scribbling something down while Yoo Ra watched on. Does anyone knows what she was writing?
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Post by Knov1 on Jun 8, 2012 3:04:46 GMT -5
from eps 57 to 60Yeon Hwa learns of Tae Yang's death. She doesn't want to believe it at first but comes to terms with it due to the evidence. While talking with Soo Ae, Yeon Hwa sees the card Yoo Ra got from Tae Yang referring to her as "aunt". Soo Ae recalls seeing Yoo Ra at the orphanage where Tae Yang was taken to. Yeon Hwa concludes Yoo Ra must have taken Tae Yang and goes to confront her about it. Yeon Hwa is choking Yoo Ra when the police show up. They're both taken back to the station. Yoo Ra denies having anything to do with Tae Yang's disappearance. Because Yeon Hwa has a a record, she'll be sent back to jail if Yoo Ra presses charges. Yoo Ra offers to drop the charges, if Yeon Hwa will keep quiet to Yoon Jae about Tae Yang. When Yoon Jae shows up at the station, Yeon Hwa doesn't say anything. Yoo Ra later explains to Yoon Jae that her altercation with Yeon Hwa was over money. Kang Wook learns from Yeon Hwa that she suspects Yoo Ra was behind Tae Yang's disappearance. She blames Yoo Ra for Tae Yang's death. Kang Wook then confronts Yoo Ra about it but she again denies it all. Kang Wook doesn't buy it. He tells Yoo Ra that he covered for her because of Yoon Jae but that he would no longer treat her as family. Yoo Ra then meets with Yeon Hwa and asks why she's been talking to Kang Wook. Yoo Ra reveals that Kang Wook is the son of Yoon Jae's stepmom and CEO of J Cosmetics, which Yeon Hwa didn't know. Yeon Hwa meets with Kang Wook and asks for his help in getting revenge on Yoo Ra. He agrees to help. A new wealthy investor named Julia is in town and everyone wants a piece of the action. Yeon Hwa quits working at Hello Mobile and returns to J Cosmetics under the name Kang Hyun Sook, but is, of course, revealed to really be Yeon Hwa. Yeon Hwa records video of Park Chang Du taking a bribe. She then makes it public by sending it out from Yoo Ra's computer. Park Chang Du is questioned about the video. He meets with Yoo Ra's dad and reveals Yoo Ra's role in Tae Yang's disappearance and fake death. Kang Wook has Tae Il help move Yeon Hwa's mom to a hospital. Yoo Ra and her grandma are surprised to find Yeon Hwa's mom and Soo Ae gone. Julia notices Yeon Hwa following her and asks who she is. Yeon Hwa explains that she works for J Cosmetics and they are interested in doing business with her. Park Chang Du is released and he meets with Yoo Ra about the video that was sent from her computer. Yoo Ra denies sending it out. She tells Park Chang Du it must have been Yeon Hwa, who is back at J Cosmetics. While Yeon Hwa and Soo Ae are with their mom at the hospital, she begins to move more and trying to talk. ------------------------------------------------- I thought it was funny how Tae Il was messing with Soo Ae at the hospital. I found a lot of stuff from this week rather silly. But, I should stop expecting K-Drama characters to think logically. I guess Yeon Hwa getting fired was kept hushed and not publicized because she is Yoon Jae's ex-fiancee. Unless it was publicized during court hearing. The general public knows who Yeon Hwa is. She was arrested during a press conference while Yoon Jae was trying to publicly defend her. The trial itself was major news, she crashed the wedding and there's been several news stories about them. Yeon Hwa doesn't care that Yoo Ra knows about her using the computer but I don't think Yoo Ra can prove it as I don't think security cameras are placed inside offices but along corridors. Plus, she did came back and turn on her computer. Server logs would tell you the exact time the video was sent out. Security cameras outside the office would show that Yoo Ra left and was out of the room when the video was sent. Yeon Hwa was the only one in the room. It would be fairly easy to prove it wasn't Yoo Ra. Either way, Yoo Ra wouldn't gain anything from it. Park Chang Du would still be in trouble and Kang Wook isn't going to fire Yeon Hwa.
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Post by keitachan2006 on Jun 9, 2012 8:59:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the recap Knov1.
I don't think the security cameras and such will be an issue since Kang Wook would just do what he did with the corporate spy video.
What strikes me as strange is that knowing how Yoo Ra and Park Chang Du are Yeon Hwa still believes the death certificate is real.
The whole thing at the police station shows a lack of imagination on the writer's part. That was the only was apparently she could think of to have Yeon Hwa not tell Joon Jae about his son.
I really don't mind drama cliches but I certainly mind boring drama cliche.
Also, the Tae Il/Soon Ae scene at the hospital - could the writer be planning to pair those 2 up? I hope not. I am still hoping for a Tae Il/Yeon Hwa pairing although it is looking like that won't happen.
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Post by Knov1 on Jun 10, 2012 5:49:50 GMT -5
Also, the Tae Il/Soon Ae scene at the hospital - could the writer be planning to pair those 2 up? I hope not. I am still hoping for a Tae Il/Yeon Hwa pairing although it is looking like that won't happen. I've been wondering the same thing for a while. Going back to Yeon Hwa's trial, Tae Il has had several scenes with Soo Ae. It can't be just a mere coincidence. I think they're hinting it could happen to see how viewers react to such a pairing. In general, I'm wondering what they plan to do with Tae Il. Is there going to be more to his story? or is he only going to show up from now on when Kang Wook needs a favor from him? |
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Post by rdb8329 on Jun 13, 2012 18:23:53 GMT -5
Watched ep 63 and the stepdad or whatever is Messing me up? I know the he is deeply involved with everything but why does he not ever show any kind of interest in his wife? Am I missing something?
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Post by gene on Jun 15, 2012 6:00:37 GMT -5
I am trying to figure out who helped Kang Wook's mum in trying to burn Julia alive. Now I know that Yoon Jae's dad wasn't involved in her disappearance.
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Post by Knov1 on Jun 16, 2012 3:40:13 GMT -5
from eps 61 to 64J Cosmetics has a makeup show, which Julia is attending. Yeon Hwa tricks Yoo Ra into leaving before the show by making it look like she got a call about her mom. Yoo Ra goes to the location Yeon Hwa wrote on a piece of paper, thinking Yeon Hwa's mom will be there. Since Yoo Ra is nowhere in sight, Yeon Hwa fills in for her during the show. Yeon Hwa meets with Julia. Their meeting is interrupted by Yoo Ra, who tells Julia about Yeon Hwa being sent to jail for being a corporate spy and linked to Yoon Hee's death. After talking to Kang Wook about Yeon Hwa, Julia decides to give Yeon Hwa another chance. Yeon Hwa explains to Julia that she framed as a corporate spy. When Julia asks by who, Yeon Hwa tells her she'd have to ask Yoon Jae and Yoo Ra to get the truth. Julia asks Yoon Jae and Yoo Ra if Yeon Hwa was really a corporate spy. Yoon Jae says she wasn't and then leaves. Yoo Ra tells Julia that the video (referring to the video Yoo Ra showed Yoon Hee) didn't show anyone else and that's what made everyone believe Yeon Hwa was a corporate spy. In the aftermath of the Park Chang Du's corruption, Yoo Ra's father is investigated as well. He claims to have no connection to Park Chang Du but Yeon Hwa has a private investigator snap pictures of them together, which she later shows to police. Yeon Hwa meets with Yoo Ra's dad. She spills water on herself so she can get away and make a copy of his house keys. She goes to his house, then into his office and finds her mom's supposed suicide note. Yeon Hwa is having a makeup show for Julia but Yoo Ra plans to sabotage her. ----------------------------------------------------------- Best stuff from this week had to be the scenes between Tae Il and Soo Ae. The way all these characters bicker, you'd think they all work for rival companies. Seriously, I know it's a K-Drama but I don't understand why anyone would want to do business with J Cosmetics. The whole company is a mess. Watched ep 63 and the stepdad or whatever is Messing me up? I know the he is deeply involved with everything but why does he not ever show any kind of interest in his wife? Am I missing something? Do you mean Yeon Hwa's mom? She found out about him covering for Yoo Ra and their relationship was never the same.
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Post by rdb8329 on Jun 16, 2012 4:38:53 GMT -5
Yes yeon's mom. Thanks for clarity!
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Post by Knov1 on Jun 22, 2012 18:20:23 GMT -5
from eps 65 to 68
Yoo Ra puts something into Yeon Hwa's cream. It causes Julia to have an adverse reaction, including facial paralysis. She's taken to the hospital. Yoo Ra got some of the stuff on her hand and goes to the hospital as well. Yoo Ra tries to hide from them but Yeon Hwa and Julia learn from one of the nurses that another patient is there with a similar condition. They see Yoo Ra and Yeon Hwa concludes she must have messed with the cream. Yoo Ra denies tampering with it. Yeon Hwa explains to Julia about her relationship with Yoon Jae and everything that Yoo Ra has done to her.
Yoo Ra's father finds the suicide note that Yeon Hwa's mom left behind missing. He talks to Yoo Ra, who admits to being behind her accident but says it wasn't intentional. That her fall was an accident. Due to allegations of corruption, Yoo Ra's father is forced to resign. Yoo Ra tells Yoon Jae that Yeon Hwa is out to get her because of the corporate spy incident.
Knowing that Yoon Jae is overhearing their conversation, Yoo Ra tells Yeon Hwa that her father's only connection to Park Chang Du was due to him investigating Yoon Jae's stepmom/Kang Wook's mom. Yoon Jae talks with Yoo Ra's dad, who just reiterates what Yoo Ra said. Yoon Jae asks Yeon Hwa what she's hoping to get out of all this and she responds that she wants to see Yoo Ra, her father and Park Chang Du in handcuffs.
Kang Wook gives Yeon Hwa's idea notebook back to her. Yeon Hwa is presenting one of her ideas in front of Julia, Kang Wook and Yoon Jae but Yoo Ra claims that Yeon Hwa stole the idea from her. Yeon Hwa defends herself by pulling out her notebook. When confronted about it by Yoon Jae, Yoo Ra admits to stealing the idea from Yeon Hwa. She says she did it to help Yoon Jae. He takes Yoo Ra with him to apologize to Julia. Because Yeon Hwa and Kang Wook are in the room, Yoo Ra backtracks and remains adamant that Yeon Hwa stole her idea.
Yoon Jae finds a postcard from Yeon Hwa on Kang Wook's desk. Kang Wook tells Yoon Jae that he started writing Yeon Hwa so she could know there was someone that truly believed in her. When Yoon Jae asks him to stop, Kang Wook responds that Yoon Jae can't tell him what to do. Kang Wook makes plans with his mother. Thinking that Kang Wook wants to introduce her to the woman he plans on marrying, she asks Yoo Ra and Yoon Jae to be there as well. When Kang Wook shows up with Yeon Hwa, no one is happy about it.
Yoon Jae tells Yeon Hwa to choose anyone but Kang Wook. She responds that things aren't like that between them. Kang Wook's mom doesn't want him to marry to Yeon Hwa and asks that he come to his senses. Yeon Hwa wants to keep things professional with Kang Wook and doesn't want him doing things without asking her first.
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Why is Kang Wook covering for Yoo Ra? That makes no sense. Twice, in front of Yoon Jae and his mom, he could have said that Yoo Ra tampered with Yeon Hwa's cream but kept quiet. Yoo Ra shouldn't have a job at this point.
Yeon Hwa doesn't seem to feel the same way about Kang Wook that he does towards her. That tells me she's going to end up back with Yoon Jae in the end.
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Post by gene on Jun 22, 2012 18:56:00 GMT -5
Questions:
1. When Julia asked Yeon Hwa about Yoon Jae, what type of person he is. What was Yeon Hwa respond?
2. Did Julia wants 2 teams Yoon Jae & Yoo Ra, Kang Wook and Yeon Hwa to compete to come up with ideas?
3. Did Kang Wook says he likes Yeon Hwa and is willing to be used by her in any way for revenge?
I hope Yeon Hwa doesn't end back with Yoon Jae nor with Kang Wook. I want her to end with Kim Tae Il, if not just by herself with her son.
The moment Yoon Jae went to jail to see Yeon Hwa and told her that they are over and he marries Yoo Ra, he has made his choice. Yoon Jae's consolation is that he will find his mom and knows he's got a son. As for relationship with Yeon Hwa, it's over. Yeon Hwa is cold towards Yoon Jae, all lovey-dovey feelings are gone.
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Post by rdb8329 on Jun 22, 2012 19:38:08 GMT -5
Knov1 thanks for recapping! I agree yeon and yoon Jae will get back together throughout this series you can tell their feelings are still there. As far as yeon being cold to yoon Jae she isn't being the "we're over" cold but rather "leave me alone I want vengeance" cold. I'm looking forward to next week because from the hints that they gave this week the proverbial dam is cracking we are just waiting for the pressure to become so much then bam!
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