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Post by truth on Jun 11, 2013 19:58:58 GMT -5
Here's my fantasy casting on Jeong Dojeon. KBS Weekend historicals aren't going to feature mega stars like Song Il Gook, Jang Hyuk etc, so I kept that in my mind on the fantasy casting. I saw some Korean fans who wanted Kim Joo Hyuk to follow his father's footsteps and play Yi Songgye but I don't think he's old enough yet.
Jeong Dojeon - Jeon Gwang Ryul (The original Huh Joon)
Yi Songgye - Yu Dong Geun (He played the son in Tears of Dragon, now it's time for him to play the father)
Jeong Mongju - Jeong Boseok (Choi Woo in MBC God of War)
Choi Young - Kim Myoung Su (Geom Mojam in KBS Dae Jo Young, Wakizaka in IYSS)
Yi Bangwon - Choi Cheol Ho (Bidam in KBS Great King's Dream)
King Gongmin - Bae Soobin (Kim Yang in KBS Emperor of the Sea)
King Woo - Yi In (Ajikai in KBS King Geunchogo)
King Jeongjong - Baek Dobin (Choi Hang in MBC God of War)
Shindon - Kim Kyu Cheol (Shin Hong in KBS Dae Jo Young)
Yi Bangseok - Jeong Taewoo (Gom in KBS Dae Jo Young)
Does anyone else have a fantasy casting?
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Post by sageuk on Jun 12, 2013 1:03:40 GMT -5
Unless Kim Joo Hyuk plays a much younger Yi Songgye during his pre-king years
I'm not really optimistic about future historicals to be honest, especially with the format that seems popular nowadays.
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Post by MTR on Jun 12, 2013 2:07:59 GMT -5
SBS are pretty awful these days ,KBS are joining them only MBC seem to have it together but even they cannot stop repeating those Dae Jang Geum storylines . I have hope for Dojeon just because he was not a warrior so unless they give him super powers it will be hard to mess this one up .
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Post by truth on Jun 12, 2013 2:39:51 GMT -5
SBS are pretty awful these days ,KBS are joining them only MBC seem to have it together but even they cannot stop repeating those Dae Jang Geum storylines . I have hope for Dojeon just because he was not a warrior so unless they give him super powers it will be hard to mess this one up . Well, Kim Choon Chu was not a warrior and they messed GKD up so, who knows? I have hope for Dojeon just because it is being directed by the same guy who directed Emperor of the Sea. I'm little worried about the writer though, because he had never done a historical before. This is a guy who wrote KBS President(The one with CSJ playing the lead role), which had extremely low ratings. Whatever the case, it should be better than SBS version of the same era last year. I didn't watch that show, but it must have been terrible judging by the low ratings and the comments on this board. I knew it would be bad the moment I learned that the main character was some fictional guru instead of Jeong Dojeon or Yi Songgye.
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Post by simisteve on Jun 15, 2013 23:29:00 GMT -5
The best traditional weekend historical in my opinion after DJY ended in 2007 have to be God of War, followed up by Geunchogo. [/quote]
Truth, no love for Great King Sejong? IMO, that was the best of ANY serialized drama I have ever seen on TV, no matter what country of origin. Acting, Plot, Effects, Direction...all top notch, and KBS has been on a downhill slide ever since. To be honest, the only reason I've stuck with GKD is there is nothing else on @ 930 PM on a weekend night.
Last weekend saw the demise of King Uija, so LA is still behind a bit.
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Post by truth on Jun 15, 2013 23:46:36 GMT -5
I didn't watch Sejong.
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Post by MTR on Jun 16, 2013 3:46:48 GMT -5
Its Funny because Sejong was an adaption of the last third of the same book that Tears Of The Dragon was adapted from . One of my favorite historical dramas and probably best Joseon drama i have seen .
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Post by simisteve on Jun 17, 2013 20:04:54 GMT -5
I think this weekend ended with Episode 58, so 12 to I guess.
Sunday's episode ended with KCC's dream about Kim Yushin's betrayal. I thought it was fascinating that he dreamed of them as younger than they were. Although minor, that was an unexpected twist that I really appreciated. Every once in a while, this series has a nugget. But I will hold off on post-mortems until the finale here.
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Post by MTR on Jun 17, 2013 20:50:24 GMT -5
Cool to here what other people think of it . Meaning the more opinions the better not that its going to change the fact its not very good .
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Post by mugwump on Jun 22, 2013 7:34:24 GMT -5
I think this weekend ended with Episode 58, so 12 to I guess. Sunday's episode ended with KCC's dream about Kim Yushin's betrayal. I thought it was fascinating that he dreamed of them as younger than they were. Although minor, that was an unexpected twist that I really appreciated. Every once in a while, this series has a nugget. But I will hold off on post-mortems until the finale here. I noticed the difference in looks too. My theory on this - When they started filming this series and put together the first episode, the writers intended that this was a flashback of a real confrontation between the two men that would be shown again later on. As time went by, the writers changed their mind and decided not to have this be part of the plot; but they kept it in as a dream. Unfortunately, by this point in time, the characters had aged beyond how they were shown in the first episode. Hence the difference in looks. On the other hand, maybe the writers always intended the beginning of Episode 1 to be a dream sequence; that might explain KCC's heavy eyeliner, costume, hair, and stilted acting.
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Post by ajk on Jul 6, 2013 22:44:51 GMT -5
So I got to see Ep69 of this today. I was very surprised at how mechanical it felt, like they were trying to depict the events almost as a historical re-enactment rather than a drama (not a fully accurate one, obviously, but a re-enactment). Then I saw the earlier posts here about the series being shortened, and that would explain it--they're trying to rush through the story and hit the main points and nothing more. And of course we saw the fall of Goguryeo in DJY and that was the strongest part of it...so this episode didn't really do anything for me except remind me of what I learned in DJY. And the combat stuff, that sort of fell flat too. Again, very mechanical--lots of movement but too often it was hard to tell what was going on. Overall just no real creativity, but if they were trying to cram a five-episode arc into one episode, I guess there's no way to do that and leave time to be creative.
Still--I got to see a current KBS historical! After four years.
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Post by ajk on Jul 7, 2013 22:40:50 GMT -5
Watched the finale this evening--was nothing like what apparently went on for most of the series, from all of the complaints I'm reading now in this thread. Pretty bland, didn't pack much punch, just tried to hit the main points and wrap the story up. What did people think of the guy playing Yushin? Seemed like odd casting, but I've only seen him as an old man so maybe he was better earlier.
Hopefully KBS is back for good now in Chicago. Had to think it was coming back eventually, but we lost it for much longer than I figured we would. Didn't get to see God of War...but on the other hand, missed Gwanggaeto, which sounds like it would have broken my heart. And it doesn't sound like this one was any great loss either. But it's just great to be back in the game. Hopefully they'll run a decent historical again soon and we can do a regular board for it here.
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Post by simisteve on Jul 19, 2013 23:49:00 GMT -5
I don't know what to make of this series. You could definitely tell they were in a hurry at the end, and what a shame for it. They wasted so many episodes at the beginning with the "evil queen" storyline. I can only imagine they were trying to make it soap-opera-ish to attract a wider audience???
It almost seems that they were trying to make ChunChu an anti-hero with the whole alliance with Tang thing. Which could have been interesting if they really pursued it. (i am basing all this on the show's entertainment value, rather than historic). In the end this wasn't much of a vehicle for CSJ.
I did like the Kim Yushin character & actor - thought he did a fine job. And the supporting cast for the most part was fine too. It seemed to suffer from the same maladies as Gwangetto - a lack of consistency in the storyline across the show. I really did force myself to watch the early episodes, until Bidam's arrival, but there wasn't much else on at that hour anyhow. I would have liked to seen more development of Jindeok and Sundeok's reigns.
Now I really wish I had seen Dae Jo Young....darn it!
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Post by MTR on Jul 20, 2013 0:15:23 GMT -5
I guess all the accidents that plagued the drama probably contributed to the erratic storyline .
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Post by mugwump on Jul 20, 2013 7:21:36 GMT -5
Agreed. Seems like they had CSJ with all his star power, so they felt they needed to make him the central character throughout the whole series. This led to all those early episodes of everyone victimizing him and the silly pointless soap opera of the evil queen and cavemen. If they had made the show more like Age of Warriors, focusing on each monarch's efforts to unify the three kingdoms, from Jinheung through ChunChu, they could have made a much better show, especially since they kept claiming it was going to be closer to real history than GQS was.
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