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Post by TheBo on Jan 26, 2012 10:26:25 GMT -5
We should give this a shot why ?........because it is the sequel to Age Of Warriors . I thought the sequel to Age of Warriors was Wang Gun? Wasn't it, Dawn of Empire, Age of Warrior, Emperor Wang Gun? Wait, that can't be right...
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Post by truth on Jan 26, 2012 12:35:53 GMT -5
We should give this a shot why ?........because it is the sequel to Age Of Warriors . I thought the sequel to Age of Warriors was Wang Gun? Wasn't it, Dawn of Empire, Age of Warrior, Emperor Wang Gun? Wait, that can't be right... Emperor Wang Guhn(2000-2002) - Founder of Koryo dynasty Dawn of Empire(2002-2003) - 4th Emperor of Koryo Kwang-jong Age of Warrior(2003-2004) - The 1st half of Era of Military Dictatorship in Koryo These were all KBS dramas. MBC God of Warriors picks the story up from the end of Age of Warriors and covers the 2nd half of Military Dicatorship era.
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Post by mugwump on Jan 26, 2012 20:02:05 GMT -5
Granted that the real Jumong had two women, I just wish the writers had made Yesoya a more interesting character.
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Post by sageuk on Jan 26, 2012 21:30:56 GMT -5
Granted that the real Jumong had two women, I just wish the writers had made Yesoya a more interesting character. Aye, girl was shallower than a puddle Speaking of love triangles, have a look at IYSS. Most of the drama didn't use the love triangle device and look at it. It did fine (for the most part)
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Post by MTR on Jan 26, 2012 21:49:08 GMT -5
Neither did AOW or Sejong
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Post by annette on Jan 27, 2012 7:46:57 GMT -5
sageuk, i must say i'm with you on that one. I also just saw the trailers and they didn't stir any excitement. I think this drama my reinforce my the notion in me that the period of the three kingdoms wasn't an interesting time period or atleast the dramas made based during that time (Ive seem QSD and King Guenchogo). I was hoping if anything the action/fighting scenes will be good but from what i've seen... And i totally agree with you on the love triangle part. I much prefer the action and would take it anyday over the love issues these people seem to have. I think i've seen enough of them to last me a lifetime - i wish they'd make just one drama - out of the million made - that doesn't bring "the drama" - if that's even possible! LOL! It just gets in the way, but then again if done right it does no harm. I'm an action buff but i don't mind a little romance here and there. I guess people enjoy love triangles and the tensions that come with it that's why they're packed in almost every freakin drama. I've also noticed there's some difference in the way they shoot dramas from the 3 kingdoms era and Joseon era periods. I don't know how to explain it, i don't know if its different styled cameras, or different methods of shooting. When am watching a drama from Joseon era its as if i'm watching their life , as in the actors are actually living that story rather than telling the story. With the 3 kingdom era dramas it feels like the BBC dramas, its like watching a Shakespearean play in a theater. Its like watching actors reenacting a play rather than living it. I'm not sure if i'm making any sense. Do you guys get what i mean? The drama doesn't take place in Three Kingdom era, which ended in late 600s. It takes place in 13th century Koryo dynasty(918-1392). I agree with you about love triangle. Both Choi Woo's daughter and the slave girl are fictional characters. The drama's gonna make Kim Joon into some sort of romantic guy. In real history, Kim Joon was exiled after he got caught sleeping with Choi Woo's concubine. truth, i think i see where my error about it being from the 3 kingdoms era comes from. When i was reading about it, i saw Koryo and in my head i immediately thought they were referring to Gorgoryeo but had shortened it - you know how sometimes letters in the korean language are interchangeable if they produce a similar sound e.g. Gyebaek is sometimes written as Kyebaek, or Joseon and Choseon, so i thought the same about Koryo. (And i also didn't know the meaning of sageuk, i just thought it referred to dramas based on the olden times whether true or fictional.) Thanks for the clarification - i love how am actually getting history lessons from watching the dramas ;D I guess the mistake was also because i've never heard of the koryo era. I've only known the 3 kingdoms and Joseon and assumed Joseon period came directly after the former. So the Koryo dynasty came after 3 kingdoms and before Joseon - how long before Joseon and what was its duration? If you don't mind me asking, what was distinct about each of the three eras (apart from the fact that the 3 kingdoms were 3 kingdoms)?
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Post by truth on Jan 27, 2012 12:00:03 GMT -5
The drama doesn't take place in Three Kingdom era, which ended in late 600s. It takes place in 13th century Koryo dynasty(918-1392). I agree with you about love triangle. Both Choi Woo's daughter and the slave girl are fictional characters. The drama's gonna make Kim Joon into some sort of romantic guy. In real history, Kim Joon was exiled after he got caught sleeping with Choi Woo's concubine. truth, i think i see where my error about it being from the 3 kingdoms era comes from. When i was reading about it, i saw Koryo and in my head i immediately thought they were referring to Gorgoryeo but had shortened it - you know how sometimes letters in the korean language are interchangeable if they produce a similar sound e.g. Gyebaek is sometimes written as Kyebaek, or Joseon and Choseon, so i thought the same about Koryo. (And i also didn't know the meaning of sageuk, i just thought it referred to dramas based on the olden times whether true or fictional.) Thanks for the clarification - i love how am actually getting history lessons from watching the dramas ;D I guess the mistake was also because i've never heard of the koryo era. I've only known the 3 kingdoms and Joseon and assumed Joseon period came directly after the former. So the Koryo dynasty came after 3 kingdoms and before Joseon - how long before Joseon and what was its duration? If you don't mind me asking, what was distinct about each of the three eras (apart from the fact that the 3 kingdoms were 3 kingdoms)? Koryo was named after Koguryo. Wang Guhn, the founder of Koryo dynasty, wanted his territory to stretch as far as Koguryo once had. Koguryo actually changed its name to Koryo during King Jangsu, but the name Koguryo is more widely used. In many historical records other than the Samguk Sagi(Korea's main source for the Three Kingdom era), Koguryo's name is written as Kuryo. Korea's current name Korea derived from Koryo by the way. Three Kingdoms : Koguryo(37BC-668AD) - Ko dynasty. The largest and the most powerful of the 3 Kingdoms. Ended by Shilla and Tang alliance. Baekjae(18BC-660AD) - Buyeo dynasty. Began by Jumong(the founder of Koguryo)'s either adopted or biological son Onjo. Later changed its name to South Buyeo. Ended by Shilla and Tang alliance. Shilla(57BC-935AD) - Began as Park dynasty. Shared thrones with the Seoks and the Kims until it completely became Kim dynasty. The Parks started sharing thrones with the Kims again in the late 800s. Ended by Wang Guhn's Koryo. These were the main kingdoms in the era. However, there were many other small nation-states and city-states such as Gaya, Mahan, Okjeo, and more in the early partof the 3 Kingdoms. North-South States Period came after the Three Kingdoms. Shila was the South. The North had Balhae. Balhae(698-926) - Dae dynasty. Had larger territories than any other Korean kingdoms in history. Its land stretched all the way to present-day Far East Russia. Ended by the Khitans. The last Crown Prince Dae Kwang Hyun migrated to Koryo with thousands of his people. His son Dae Dosu was a Koryo general who fought against the Khitans when they invaded Koryo. During later part of North-South States Period, Later Three Kingdoms also took place. Shilla was in a state of chaos in its final years, so many local gentries claimed independence from Shilla and started fighting each other for territories. Only 2 of these many powers remained after years of fighting and made up the Later Three Kingdoms. Shilla is the 3rd part of Later Three Kingdoms. Later Baekje(892-936) - Began by Kyon Hwon. Betrayed by his own son who locked him up in a Buddhist temple, Kyon Hwon joined forces with his bitter enemy Wang Guhn to destroy his own kingdom and his son's ambition. Later Koguryo(901-918) - Began by Gung Ye, who was supposedbly an abandoned prince of the Shilla royal family. He started out as a Buddhist monk and built Later Koguryo. He changed the state's name to Majin in 904 and to Taebong in 911. In his final years, he became a ruthless tyrant according to Koryo's historical record. Wang Guhn, who was Gung Ye's subject, killed Gung Ye and founded Koryo. Koryo(918-1392) - Wang dynasty. The God of Warriors take place in the 1200s, when military dictators had more power than the monarchs. Ended by Yi Seonggye, the founder of Chosun dynasty. Chosun(1392-1910) - Yi, or Lee dynasty. Changed its name to the Korean Empire in 1897. Ended by the Empire of Japan.
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Post by excelsior on Jan 27, 2012 13:12:15 GMT -5
It must be noted that after Chumo the next four Goguryo Kings had the surname of Hae. The Go surname resurfaced again with the sixth king. Who, very curiously, is called the Taejo of Goguryo. Was there a coup and the Kingdom ruled by a different clan? Why is the sixth King called Taejo? There aren't enough evidence to claim anything. Yet the mind wanders.
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Post by TheBo on Jan 27, 2012 16:08:47 GMT -5
ROFL, excelsior. I hear you...
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Post by truth on Jan 28, 2012 15:37:03 GMT -5
Here's the 4th teaser
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Post by sageuk on Jan 28, 2012 18:46:03 GMT -5
Looks like there will be some gladiatorial fights in this after all, like DYC suspected. Did Koryo even have gladiator tournaments?
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Post by MTR on Jan 28, 2012 21:41:38 GMT -5
Hmm i suspect not ..but they did have commerce with Arab and even some Euro states so who knows ?.
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Post by truth on Jan 28, 2012 23:37:34 GMT -5
Hmm i suspect not ..but they did have commerce with Arab and even some Euro states so who knows ?. I don't know anything about Koryo having commerce with Euro states, but it is possible that Silla had commerce with the Byzantines. Roman glasses were found in tombs of Silla kings. I think this is where they got the idea of Byzantine speaking QSD and Mishil playing with Roman glasses. Some Sillans might have been Christians. Statue resembling Mary and Jesus was found at Bulguk Buddhist Temple as well as a stone Cross. blog.daum.net/6042cjm/15690007
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Post by mugwump on Jan 31, 2012 19:53:32 GMT -5
Ah, glass... If I may stray off-topic just a bit, I long have been curious as to why there seems to have been no glass-making industry in Korea during these historical eras. Certainly some of the shows have had scenes with characters using and admiring glassware (eg Kyun Won's gaga father in EWG). And it makes perfect sense that they would have obtained these objects in trade. But why did they never have glass windows? Was it because of lack of natural resources for making the glass? Was it just too expensive and rare? Then this also leads me to think, what was the glass situation like on the mainland. Korea certainly would have followed the lead (no pun intended) of China.
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Post by ginnycat5 on Jan 31, 2012 21:18:29 GMT -5
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