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Post by TheBo on May 23, 2011 10:18:31 GMT -5
This spoiler thread can contain anything about Yi San you wish to discuss, or anything about the press. You can post links to articles without spoiler warnings.
1) Please be polite, as usual
2) Please do not use "spoiler space"
3) This thread is moderated--not for spoilers, only to make sure things don't get out of hand, emotionally shall we say. If you notice anyone being rude or annoying or racist or any of those unpleasant things, you can say something if you feel you can be restrained about it (after all, you may just have misunderstood). Be careful how you phrase your inquiry--think to yourself, How would I feel if someone said this to me? Or, if you are shy or too angry, please notify a mod (preferably one listed for this forum, but any mod is fine) by sending him or her a PM.
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Post by sageuk on May 23, 2011 13:19:55 GMT -5
Ah...the sage king. One of the last great kings of Korea before everything went downhill. Maybe Taejong/Yi Bang-won was right about getting rid of his in laws.
You know how in the beginning the eunuchs were trying to feed Sado in the rice chest and got killed as a result? That actually happened. Except from what read it was just one.
Lots and lots of DJG actors here
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Post by griffin on May 23, 2011 20:03:16 GMT -5
Too true. I kept thinking I'm watching DJG because the girl gang behaved exactly as they would in DJG. I kept expecting JG to walk onto the scene and "Shinbi" to say something about medical stuff! ;D
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Post by sageuk on May 26, 2011 12:57:04 GMT -5
Historical info: The historical person that Song-yeon was based on wasn't a damo in the painter's bureau. She was said to be a palace maid prior to becoming Jeongjo's concubine. And she is the only palace maid concubine while the others were daughters of aristocrats. Only one his mom didn't handpick I guess.
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Post by griffin on May 26, 2011 13:38:19 GMT -5
It's obvious why they changed Song-yeon's occupation to a damo (I thought they served tea and were the "policewomen" of Choson). ;D Jeongjo is too well known as a connoisseur of art. If they stayed true to her being a palace maid, the char's "condemned" to the palace. Too many restrictions! I guess the real Jeongjo must have liked her much, seeing that his first son was borne by her. Tis unfortunate the son died.
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Post by sageuk on May 26, 2011 16:04:13 GMT -5
It gets worse. She later had a daughter, but it died early.
When she died, Jeongjo said this (this is a rough translation from theKorean documents I was looking at): "It has been five months, the hope of the whole country was only here depends on the stool and I've suffered, I can not really know what to do."
"Now national affairs is not even a place"
He was so depressed he had difficulty concentrating on national affairs
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Post by griffin on May 26, 2011 20:16:21 GMT -5
Yeah, there would be his journals to look into. Tis sad he had such a traumatic childhood and even less luck in his love life. If she had survived, he probably would have lived longer. Where were you looking at Korean documents? Library?
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Post by sageuk on May 26, 2011 21:43:46 GMT -5
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Post by griffin on May 26, 2011 23:02:36 GMT -5
Yes, I read it elsewhere too in a book that he spoke ofhis illness in some letters. But who doesn't love the posion-conspiracy theory? ;D
Thanks for the links. I'll pore over the first one ... slowly. ;D The second didn't work for me.
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Post by TheBo on Jun 2, 2011 10:01:48 GMT -5
Hey, you two (sageuk and griffin), I'm trying "not" to read this too closely because I'm keeping to the schedule (so I don't get mixed up although I had already watched up to Ep.6 and then started over for this)--SO THEREFORE, if you two are here with any frequency, would you mind letting me know if someone gets out of hand in here? You know, using racially charged language or something like that, not just disagreeing with you. LOL.
Of course, I'm trusting the both of you not to get into a big ugly fight. ;D And of course (other members), anyone should PM me if they feel something is going wrong here.
Bo
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Post by griffin on Jun 2, 2011 11:23:30 GMT -5
Oh I swim by the board daily and so does several others. So far, I only see the usual Hammerhead guzzlers, rarely any Coca Colas. ;D Fear not! Hammerhead rules!
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Post by TheBo on Jun 3, 2011 10:56:47 GMT -5
Okay, now I'm going to take an aspirin. LOL.
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Post by griffin on Jun 4, 2011 15:02:12 GMT -5
I don't think aspirin goes very well with Hammerhead. Or so I understand that drugs + coffee = @@@@@
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Post by MTR on Jun 7, 2011 23:35:24 GMT -5
Fight you mean like those AOW brawls and Seoul 1945 where someone ragged on people from Busan .
Most if not all of those people are gone and we are pretty civil and get along well .
Anyway i really think Jeongjo was poisoned by the dowager plus his own Mother was a hardcore Noron even to the extent she sided against her husband and son ,than you have the bloody Soron purge after his death ,like they were all just waiting for him to die . It just seems too coincidental . Of course i have no proof .
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Post by shiku on Jun 12, 2011 12:40:28 GMT -5
Can someone explain the Norons and Sorons and why they differed? I have tried wikipedia but it left me so confused. Which political group did Jeongjo bring back and why had they been banished for 100 years which would be Sukjong's time? I read somewhere that Sukjong was trigger-happy with purging the political group when they fell out of his favor
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