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galacticchick
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« Thread Started on Jan 28, 2005, 10:26am »
Another interesting episode on Drama City.
Sung-hee is a spa masseuse. When she was attending the University, she is courted by Insoo. He's doing just about everything to get her attention, he takes a couple of dozen pictures of her and posts them around some statue so he can finally introduce himself to her.
She is finally won over by him. But then, when they have agreed to meet at a certain location, he never shows up. Two weeks have passed and she finally calls his sister whom so far I believe she only met once, she says that Insoo is dead, they've already held a funeral for him, and please do not call again.
I'm guessing that the comment the lady who was getting her massage is a clue to what might have happened to her boyfriend. If he was a manic-depressive (bi-polar disorder I think is the more PC term) then he must have been on one of his "highs" when he met her.
Can't wait to see what happens next!
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hachiue
Wang
« Reply #1 on Jan 28, 2005, 12:08pm »
At first I thought something was wrong with my tv, but then realized that they were being "arty". So I'm assuming that they were showing the life that he injected into her life due to his manic nature.
What was that scene at the beach? Was he going crazy and depressed for a second?
Anyway, I agree that he was bipolar. He had classic symptoms - throwing himself into activities and being really passionate, acting crazily, then going out of control when something didn't go his way (actually I don't know the real symptoms but his were pretty crazy).
What was with In-soo's sister? She looked much more hostile to what's-her-name than was called for. Even if she'd seen it before, with other girls, she should've talked to her about it - even in the "stay away from my brother" way - rather than just ignore her. I don't know how long they were dating, but based on how they acted in the elevator, I had assumed for a long time. And wouldn't the school notify the clubs he was in that he was dead?
It seems like official notices of death in Korea are overlooked - no obit in the paper, no notice to the school, nothing. It's not like he died, just like he disappeared.
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BAE
Wang
« Reply #2 on Jan 28, 2005, 7:02pm »
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hachiue
Wang
« Reply #3 on Jan 30, 2005, 11:51pm »
Ah, yes, that would work, but I'm not sure if I got the "nonexistent" feeling from him really. It seemed like he lived his life fuller than anyone else when he was manic, and that's why it seemed so empty when he was depressed. They didn't show much of the depression and how it affected him - he just moped around like the jilted lovers on all the other dramas!
I was so surprised when she went through that box and found out that he'd been watching her for that long. I guess it makes sense though.
It seemed to me like his depression was self-inflicted, at least a little. His manic phase seemed to exist when he still had the hope of being happy with her, but when he reached what he thought was his happiness' height, he decided there was nowhere to go but down and so threw himself into a depressive state. Then at the very end, he seemed to finally wake up out of that state - maybe going manic again or something. I think that would have been a neat aspect of the story if they'd included it.
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galacticchick
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« Reply #4 on Jan 31, 2005, 10:34am »
I think I liked the ending. It was a happy one, I guess, although I really would have liked to continue seeing what happened. I was surprised by how long he had been admiring her, apparently since high school, no wonder when he posted all those pictures of her around that statue he finally told her to pay attention to him, or to look at him, something like that.
I would have liked to have gotten to know the characters a little bit better. Drama City is short and sweet, but sometimes too short for my taste. Couldn't they have extended it to another 9 episodes?
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hachiue
Wang
« Reply #5 on Jan 31, 2005, 12:59pm »
I like it because it's just a "slice of life" drama. Everything feels unfinished so you kind of get to make up your own ending. I don't know, I just like things that don't try to tie off the ends too succinctly.
It's like short stories for tv. Different format = different feel.
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galacticchick
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« Reply #6 on Jan 31, 2005, 1:33pm »
I also really liked the, well, I'm not sure what you could call it, cinematography? The fact that they changed the screen to beige and white when she was alone w/only her gold ring and his saxophone being colored gold, and then when he was in the scenes the shot was injected w/color. I thought that was a really nice touch.
I think you're right, hachiue, about it showing his different way of viewing the world when he was in his highs.
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Lucy
Admin Saram
« Reply #7 on Feb 1, 2005, 11:29am »
Hi, guys--
If I could just be a pain again -- could I ask what happened in the second episode? Just a bare outline if you can. Once again I've missed the conclusion of Drama City.
Hey, about the other new show in the series, "Over Love," which you guys seem to have watched already this week--is that going to be re-shown on Thursday and Friday, or does Drama City broadcast new episodes all week long and I've only been catching the Thur/Fri shows?
thanks!
Lucy
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galacticchick
Special Moderator
«Reply #8 on Feb 1, 2005, 1:35pm »
He-sung (the girl) is staring at Insoo while he is playing his saxophone at a cafe owned by his sister. She is just staring at him, unable to believe that he's alive. She just turns around and leaves.
The next day she quits her job (why? I don't know) and then she goes back to the cafe where he is playing his saxophone again and takes his hand and drags him out of the cafe so they can talk.
She asks him if he really loved her and if he even meant anything of what he said. He tells her that she should just forget him.
His new girlfriend is trying to coax him out of his depressed state, fails. He-sung and Insoo's sister meet at the cafe to talk about Insoo, she tells her that Insoo is a suffers from manic depression. When she met him he was in a manic stage, later on when he started coming down, he tried to commit suicide and just barely saved his life. His sister thinks the other girl is better because she thinks she might be able to better cope w/his depression.
Later on that night, his sister can't find Insoo anywhere. She is trying to get into contact w/Hesung and just then Hesung walks into their cafe. Seeing the drawing that his sister found on Insoo's desk, she recognized the tree, she runs to try and catch him, having a dreadful feeling that he might want to hurt himself.
Sure enough, he is there with a rope, thiking about how he's so miserable, asking his mom (in his mind) if she was this miserable to be alive.
She talks him out of hanging himself. Also tries to re-enact the scene where they were "married" by the beach. He walks away.
Later on Insoo's current girlfriend visits Hesung and presents her with a small box. She says that part of loving is knowing when to walk away. When she opens it, the contents make her cry. It is pictures of her as far back as high school. He had been admiring and loving her all this time.
She walks into his room and he is sleeping. She takes out a bit of face cream and starts massaging his face just like he once did to her. His tears wake her and they kiss.
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galacticchick
Special Moderator
« Reply #9 on Feb 1, 2005, 1:37pm »
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Lucy
Admin Saram
« Reply #10 on Feb 1, 2005, 3:17pm »
Thanks SO much for the summary, galacticchick. That sure sounds different from what we are used to with the soaps. I don't really understand why she was hung up on him or why his family thought some other girl would be better for him, since they didn't know her at all. I guess that's all part of the postmodern vibe of the series and adds to the mystery and openendedness it seems to be going for.
Boy, that "he's not really dead" theme sure is popular these days.
« Last Edit: Feb 1, 2005, 3:17pm by Lucy »
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galacticchick
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« Reply #11 on Feb 1, 2005, 5:05pm »
The other gir I guess got to know him during his depressed period so she wouldn't expect much from him. She's already known how he will be in his depressed state. I guess the sister thought that He-sung would pressure him into doing romantic things all the time, which I suppose would make his feelings of worthlessness worse. She was wrong though, which is why Hesung later asked her, in the second episode, how did she know that the other girl was better for him if she never gave her a chance.
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Lucy
Admin Saram
« Reply #12 on Feb 2, 2005, 12:02pm »
My question is, hasn't anyone in Korea heard of lithium?
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panther
Addict Graduate
« Reply #13 on Feb 2, 2005, 1:35pm »
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hachiue
Wang
« Reply #14 on Feb 2, 2005, 1:56pm »
Maybe they haven't heard of lithium, but he was taking medication - one of the big reasons he was so depressed (and tried to kill himself), according to his sister, was because he'd stopped taking his medication.
Didn't Philly just recently go to the 3 episode/week format? Perhaps the first drama city aired in Chicago was the one that they saw. Anyone know?
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« Thread Started on Jan 28, 2005, 10:26am »
Another interesting episode on Drama City.
Sung-hee is a spa masseuse. When she was attending the University, she is courted by Insoo. He's doing just about everything to get her attention, he takes a couple of dozen pictures of her and posts them around some statue so he can finally introduce himself to her.
She is finally won over by him. But then, when they have agreed to meet at a certain location, he never shows up. Two weeks have passed and she finally calls his sister whom so far I believe she only met once, she says that Insoo is dead, they've already held a funeral for him, and please do not call again.
I'm guessing that the comment the lady who was getting her massage is a clue to what might have happened to her boyfriend. If he was a manic-depressive (bi-polar disorder I think is the more PC term) then he must have been on one of his "highs" when he met her.
Can't wait to see what happens next!
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hachiue
Wang
« Reply #1 on Jan 28, 2005, 12:08pm »
At first I thought something was wrong with my tv, but then realized that they were being "arty". So I'm assuming that they were showing the life that he injected into her life due to his manic nature.
What was that scene at the beach? Was he going crazy and depressed for a second?
Anyway, I agree that he was bipolar. He had classic symptoms - throwing himself into activities and being really passionate, acting crazily, then going out of control when something didn't go his way (actually I don't know the real symptoms but his were pretty crazy).
What was with In-soo's sister? She looked much more hostile to what's-her-name than was called for. Even if she'd seen it before, with other girls, she should've talked to her about it - even in the "stay away from my brother" way - rather than just ignore her. I don't know how long they were dating, but based on how they acted in the elevator, I had assumed for a long time. And wouldn't the school notify the clubs he was in that he was dead?
It seems like official notices of death in Korea are overlooked - no obit in the paper, no notice to the school, nothing. It's not like he died, just like he disappeared.
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BAE
Wang
« Reply #2 on Jan 28, 2005, 7:02pm »
Quote: It seems like official notices of death in Korea are overlooked - no obit in the paper, no notice to the school, nothing. It's not like he died, just like he disappeared.maybe not overlooked. maybe the writers tried to show how his life is: he's nonexistant.
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hachiue
Wang
« Reply #3 on Jan 30, 2005, 11:51pm »
Ah, yes, that would work, but I'm not sure if I got the "nonexistent" feeling from him really. It seemed like he lived his life fuller than anyone else when he was manic, and that's why it seemed so empty when he was depressed. They didn't show much of the depression and how it affected him - he just moped around like the jilted lovers on all the other dramas!
I was so surprised when she went through that box and found out that he'd been watching her for that long. I guess it makes sense though.
It seemed to me like his depression was self-inflicted, at least a little. His manic phase seemed to exist when he still had the hope of being happy with her, but when he reached what he thought was his happiness' height, he decided there was nowhere to go but down and so threw himself into a depressive state. Then at the very end, he seemed to finally wake up out of that state - maybe going manic again or something. I think that would have been a neat aspect of the story if they'd included it.
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galacticchick
Special Moderator
« Reply #4 on Jan 31, 2005, 10:34am »
I think I liked the ending. It was a happy one, I guess, although I really would have liked to continue seeing what happened. I was surprised by how long he had been admiring her, apparently since high school, no wonder when he posted all those pictures of her around that statue he finally told her to pay attention to him, or to look at him, something like that.
I would have liked to have gotten to know the characters a little bit better. Drama City is short and sweet, but sometimes too short for my taste. Couldn't they have extended it to another 9 episodes?
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hachiue
Wang
« Reply #5 on Jan 31, 2005, 12:59pm »
I like it because it's just a "slice of life" drama. Everything feels unfinished so you kind of get to make up your own ending. I don't know, I just like things that don't try to tie off the ends too succinctly.
It's like short stories for tv. Different format = different feel.
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galacticchick
Special Moderator
« Reply #6 on Jan 31, 2005, 1:33pm »
I also really liked the, well, I'm not sure what you could call it, cinematography? The fact that they changed the screen to beige and white when she was alone w/only her gold ring and his saxophone being colored gold, and then when he was in the scenes the shot was injected w/color. I thought that was a really nice touch.
I think you're right, hachiue, about it showing his different way of viewing the world when he was in his highs.
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Lucy
Admin Saram
« Reply #7 on Feb 1, 2005, 11:29am »
Hi, guys--
If I could just be a pain again -- could I ask what happened in the second episode? Just a bare outline if you can. Once again I've missed the conclusion of Drama City.
Hey, about the other new show in the series, "Over Love," which you guys seem to have watched already this week--is that going to be re-shown on Thursday and Friday, or does Drama City broadcast new episodes all week long and I've only been catching the Thur/Fri shows?
thanks!
Lucy
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galacticchick
Special Moderator
«Reply #8 on Feb 1, 2005, 1:35pm »
He-sung (the girl) is staring at Insoo while he is playing his saxophone at a cafe owned by his sister. She is just staring at him, unable to believe that he's alive. She just turns around and leaves.
The next day she quits her job (why? I don't know) and then she goes back to the cafe where he is playing his saxophone again and takes his hand and drags him out of the cafe so they can talk.
She asks him if he really loved her and if he even meant anything of what he said. He tells her that she should just forget him.
His new girlfriend is trying to coax him out of his depressed state, fails. He-sung and Insoo's sister meet at the cafe to talk about Insoo, she tells her that Insoo is a suffers from manic depression. When she met him he was in a manic stage, later on when he started coming down, he tried to commit suicide and just barely saved his life. His sister thinks the other girl is better because she thinks she might be able to better cope w/his depression.
Later on that night, his sister can't find Insoo anywhere. She is trying to get into contact w/Hesung and just then Hesung walks into their cafe. Seeing the drawing that his sister found on Insoo's desk, she recognized the tree, she runs to try and catch him, having a dreadful feeling that he might want to hurt himself.
Sure enough, he is there with a rope, thiking about how he's so miserable, asking his mom (in his mind) if she was this miserable to be alive.
She talks him out of hanging himself. Also tries to re-enact the scene where they were "married" by the beach. He walks away.
Later on Insoo's current girlfriend visits Hesung and presents her with a small box. She says that part of loving is knowing when to walk away. When she opens it, the contents make her cry. It is pictures of her as far back as high school. He had been admiring and loving her all this time.
She walks into his room and he is sleeping. She takes out a bit of face cream and starts massaging his face just like he once did to her. His tears wake her and they kiss.
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galacticchick
Special Moderator
« Reply #9 on Feb 1, 2005, 1:37pm »
Quote: Hey, about the other new show in the series, "Over Love," which you guys seem to have watched already this week--is that going to be re-shown on Thursday and Friday, or does Drama City broadcast new episodes all week long and I've only been catching the Thur/Fri shows?I think they might not live in Chicago. I've never seen that one, but I am also not certain of what they air on Wednesday evenings.
thanks!
Lucy
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Lucy
Admin Saram
« Reply #10 on Feb 1, 2005, 3:17pm »
Thanks SO much for the summary, galacticchick. That sure sounds different from what we are used to with the soaps. I don't really understand why she was hung up on him or why his family thought some other girl would be better for him, since they didn't know her at all. I guess that's all part of the postmodern vibe of the series and adds to the mystery and openendedness it seems to be going for.
Boy, that "he's not really dead" theme sure is popular these days.
« Last Edit: Feb 1, 2005, 3:17pm by Lucy »
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galacticchick
Special Moderator
« Reply #11 on Feb 1, 2005, 5:05pm »
Quote: I don't really understand why she was hung up on him or why his family thought some other girl would be better for him, since they didn't know her at all.Well she did love the guy. And she didn’t know that he had bipolar disorder. All she knew is that this guy loved her, did outrageous things to win her heart and all of a sudden he’s dead and she never got any closure.
The other gir I guess got to know him during his depressed period so she wouldn't expect much from him. She's already known how he will be in his depressed state. I guess the sister thought that He-sung would pressure him into doing romantic things all the time, which I suppose would make his feelings of worthlessness worse. She was wrong though, which is why Hesung later asked her, in the second episode, how did she know that the other girl was better for him if she never gave her a chance.
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Lucy
Admin Saram
« Reply #12 on Feb 2, 2005, 12:02pm »
My question is, hasn't anyone in Korea heard of lithium?
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panther
Addict Graduate
« Reply #13 on Feb 2, 2005, 1:35pm »
Quote: I think they might not live in Chicago. I've never seen that one, but I am also not certain of what they air on Wednesday evenings.im sorry i thought that philly and chicago showed the same drama city episodes at the same time. while reading the other posts i realized i didint see the episodes everyone else is talking about
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hachiue
Wang
« Reply #14 on Feb 2, 2005, 1:56pm »
Maybe they haven't heard of lithium, but he was taking medication - one of the big reasons he was so depressed (and tried to kill himself), according to his sister, was because he'd stopped taking his medication.
Didn't Philly just recently go to the 3 episode/week format? Perhaps the first drama city aired in Chicago was the one that they saw. Anyone know?
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