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Post by ajk on Feb 24, 2018 23:24:26 GMT -5
I hope NK knows how to take proper care of archeological sites like those. It takes expertise and resources to preserve them properly. Considering their soldiers apparently don't even get a proper diet, you wonder if anything of value will be left from those sites for future generations. So many sad stories all over the planet about priceless sites being plundered.
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Post by truth on Feb 25, 2018 18:37:46 GMT -5
I hope NK knows how to take proper care of archeological sites like those. It takes expertise and resources to preserve them properly. They probably do take proper care of them, probably not as good as SK does with the historical sites or artifacts, but they take great pride in history of Goryeo. North Korea claims their country to be a successor of Goryeo and Goguryeo as capitals of both dynasties are located in North Korea. This is probably why they are so persistent about foreign powers telling them what to do, especially the US, just as Goryeo and Goguryeo were hard-liners against foreign powers such as Mongols, Khitans, and Tang Chinese. South Korea, on the other hand, succeeds Joseon dynasty, although never claimed officially by SK gov. Seoul was the capital city of Joseon, the national flag of SK is a variation of the flag of late Joseon dynasty, and the royal palace of Joseon dynasty is a national landmark. Syngman Lee, the 1st president of South Korea, was a descendant of Prince Yangnyeong, the older brother of King Sejong. South Korea acknowledges US power just as Joseon acknowledged Ming China. Despite claiming themselves as a successor to Goryeo and Goguryeo, North Korea's official name in Korean is ironically Joseon. What we call Joseon dynasty in SK is just referred to as the "Lee regime" in North Korea.
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Post by sageuk on Apr 9, 2018 21:36:09 GMT -5
By the way, the artist who drew the pre-Joseon hanbok you posted recently stated that her artbook for pre-Joseon hanbok will be published this June. It was originally supposed to come out last March, but it got delayed because they wanted to spend more time on promotion.
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Post by MTR on Apr 9, 2018 22:06:12 GMT -5
Dae Mu would be good,but i do not think we will see a traditional historical again.
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Post by sageuk on Jan 11, 2019 12:38:09 GMT -5
I just discovered an incident in regards to the Korean independence movement.
The Free City Incident.
Several Korean independence armies fled to Russia from the Imperial Japanese Army, where they united to form the Greater Korean Independence Corps. Kim Jwajin, Hong Beomdo and Ji Cheongcheon were members of the Corps. With the help of Yi Donghwi, the head of the Koryo Communist Party, the Corps managed to make a deal with Soviet Russia: in exchange for fighting against the anti-Bolshevik armies during the Russian Civil War, the Koreans will receive aid in their fight for liberation. The Korean Independence Corps were moved to the town of Alekseyevsk, where apparently they received free arms and training, hence the term "Free City".
There was however, factional strife in the Korean communist parties. A group of Korean-Russians called the Irktrusk faction formed the Koryo Revolutionary Military Congress and claimed authority over the Korean troops and to unite under its command. The Corps rejected this, stating the Irktrusk faction are more concerned about forcibly assimilating the Corps into the Red Army instead of fighting for independence, while the Irtrusk faction fired back by accusing the Corps of being anti-revolution. So fighting broke out at Alekseyevsk. The Military Congress won, with hundreds of Koreans were killed, nearly a thousand were captured and forced into the Red Army. Those who managed to escape ended up spreading anti-communist sentiment.
According to further research, Kim Jwajin had returned to Manchuria earlier so he managed to escape the incident. Hong Beomdo apparently became a member of the Red Army (its not clear if he volunteered or was forced), Ji Cheongcheon was imprisoned in a gulag but was later released.
Would this be good material or would it not there be enough content, since it took about a day? Are the events too much of a downer?
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Post by ajk on Jan 13, 2019 3:35:28 GMT -5
You totally anticipated the word that came to me--downer. It certainly is an interesting story (and I appreciate your telling us about it) but it would be a pretty tough sell as a TV drama.
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Post by truth on Jul 8, 2019 19:46:01 GMT -5
Don't know about drama, but I think story of Seol Jukhwa would make a good movie. Seol Jukhwa is basically the Korean version of Mulan. Just thought of her after watching the new trailer for Disney's live action Mulan film. Seol Jukhwa's father was a Goryeo dynasty soldier who was killed along with his commander Yang Gyu in battle against Khitans. Her father's body was returned to the family along with a poem he wrote, which urged "his descendants to fight against Khitans until death like him." He only had a daughter, so the "descendants" probably referred to the young generation of men in Goryeo. Upon reading her husband's poem, Seol's mother cried in front of Seol saying "if only you were a man, you would have been able to keep his will!" Seol swore to obey her father's will upon hearing her mother and got a martial arts training. When she felt her fighting skills were as good as men her age, she disguised herself as a man and went to Kang Gamchan's battalion to volunteer as a soldier. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_Gam-chanThe enlisting officer refused to accept her, thinking that "he" looked too weak and feminine. When rejected, Seol lied that she was Kang Gamchan's nephew and that she wanted to talk to her uncle about joining the military. The enlisting officer took her to meet Kang as she kept insisting she was Kang's nephew. She pleaded Kang Gamchan to let her in the military upon meeting him. Kang, too, refused to accept her at first, but allowed to let her join when she said she wanted to continue her father's legacy by sacrificing her life for the country. Upon joining the army, Seol Jukhwa fought bravely in numerous battles until a battle in 1019 when Khitan soldiers teamed up on her to kill her as they saw that she was one of the top fighting soldiers on the field. Seol bravely fought off the Khitans coming at her until she died of numerous arrow shots. Kang Gamchan and other soldiers on her battalion only discovered that she was a girl after her death and were deeply saddened by her father's poem that she kept inside her clothes while she fought in the battlefield. Kang said looking at her dead body, "You have sacrificed your young life to save your country. We will not forget your loyalty. As long as young people like you exist, Goryeo will never fall to the invasion of foreign enemies. Oh, dear admirable one. You are the flower of Goryeo, her true daughter." Imaginary painting of Seol Jukhwa fighting against Khitans moments before her death. Seol Jukhwa from a historical documentary show
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Post by MTR on Jul 9, 2019 14:50:02 GMT -5
This would be great, as long as they did not find a way to mess it up .
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Post by sageuk on Jul 9, 2019 21:56:28 GMT -5
It's like someone decided to reimagine the Ballad of Hua Mulan and make it as big a downer as much as possible. Like those dark and gritty reimaginings you sometimes see come out.
What's the source for Seol Jukhwa's story anyway? Does her name appear in the Koryo-sa?
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Post by truth on Jul 10, 2019 15:20:07 GMT -5
It's like someone decided to reimagine the Ballad of Hua Mulan and make it as big a downer as much as possible. Like those dark and gritty reimaginings you sometimes see come out. What's the source for Seol Jukhwa's story anyway? Does her name appear in the Koryo-sa? It's not recorded in Koryo-sa and is more of an oral history passed down for generations. Her name's been referenced by many people over the history including a poem by Yi Soon Shin's wife.
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Post by ajk on Jul 11, 2019 21:13:30 GMT -5
The next time I watch a series about a cross-dressing soldier, it will be with a gun to my head, suspended over hot coals, and with that idiot from DJY in my face screaming "I am the Wolf of Madu!" every ten seconds. BLECCH.
But I agree with you truth, there certainly is a market for a story like that. In fact it's very surprising that nobody has made a fusion drama out of it already.
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Post by truth on Jul 11, 2019 23:16:13 GMT -5
The next time I watch a series about a cross-dressing soldier, it will be with a gun to my head, suspended over hot coals, and with that idiot from DJY in my face screaming "I am the Wolf of Madu!" every ten seconds. BLECCH. But I agree with you truth, there certainly is a market for a story like that. In fact it's very surprising that nobody has made a fusion drama out of it already. Maybe because there's already a drama about that time period(Iron Empress) I think drama about her would be a bad idea. There's not enough historical info on her and as you've said I am tired of crossdressing drama as well although her story has historical basis unlike all the other crossdressing series. I do think a 2 hr movie about her would be good though. Her story is interesting enough to be made into 2 hr film. More than 20 episodes drama? Don't think so.
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Post by sageuk on Oct 3, 2019 19:35:55 GMT -5
So something popped in my mind while I was eating at Subway and reading the wiki entry for the Imjin War.
This one idea is a little different from what we usually bring up in this thread since its usually adaptations of the historical texts, but in this case, its more of a What If? scenario, or alternate history (example being what if Korea was never liberated from Japan).
What if Toyotomi Hideyoshi managed to successfully get the Portuguese warships that he requested for his invasion? It is said that he asked for two galleons but never received them because the European missionaries were told not to interfere with internal politics.
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Post by ajk on Oct 4, 2019 1:50:50 GMT -5
Hmmm....
Exactly what were you eating? Sushi sub?
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Post by sageuk on Oct 4, 2019 18:56:59 GMT -5
No.
Ham.
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