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Post by sageuk on Nov 13, 2010 17:18:15 GMT -5
There are so many Korean historicals and other parts of Korean history that haven't been on screen. In Conn Iggulden's words, "There are just too many stories to be told in the world - and too few hours in a day". Discuss which parts of Korean history you want to see dramatized and have your say on how you would handle it if you were the crew.
-Sambyeolcho Rebellion- In response to the Koryo Royal court's surrender to the Mongol Empire, the elite special force known as the Three Elite Patrols secede from the kingdom, and rebel against the two nations.
Characters
Sambyeolcho (Since they are a special force, I picture actors who played military roles) Bae Jung-son (Choi Jae-sung)-Chief of the Sambyeolcho and Leader of the Rebellion "I refuse to become a dog under those savages!"
No Young Hui (Kim Roi-ha from Comrades)
King Wonjong "The Sambyeolcho are a remnant of the age of warriors. Do whatever it takes to "
Themes: Nationalism
Yushin Lifestory of Kim Yushin, who unified the Three Kingdoms. Yeah, some might see this as pointless considering we saw him in QSD but whatever
King Dongcheon A king of Koguryo who is partially responsible for nearly bringing his country to ruin by the Wei Kingdom's hands. Koguryo was in an alliance with the Cao Wei kingdom, but this alliance was broken when Dongcheon raided the Liadong commanderies. Goguryeo presence there would cut off the land routes between the Chinese heartland and the peninsular commanderies, the Wei court reacted most strongly to this apparent threat by sending in armies. Dongcheon managed to escape the invaders, but the Wei's retaliation weakened the kingdom to the point of near destruction. Imagine the guilt he felt on indirectly ruining his nation. I picture him praying for forgiveness at his ancestor's tomb.
Shin Saimdang A Korean artist, calligraphist, noted poet, and the mother of the Confucian scholar Yulgok, a revered politician and reformer. Often held up as a model of Confucian ideals. Due to it being about the mother of a promininent historical figure, there will probably be similiarities to Dong Yi. Another difficult thing in making this drama would be the matter of conflict as well.
Rusting Iron The title is metaphorical because Gaya was best known for its iron production and it takes place in the end years of Gaya
I'll add more later
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Post by MTR on Nov 13, 2010 20:37:38 GMT -5
The Sambyeolcho was meant to be an MBC Drama this year but it got bumped for Kim Soo Ro.
Also there was meant to be a DJY spin off(Ono of them was shown as a young kid who gives Jo Young water when he is hanging in the town square ) about Goguryeo Warriors who fought for Tang
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Post by griffin on Nov 13, 2010 21:48:16 GMT -5
I'll take the other end of the spectrum. Rather than scholars, kings, queens, generals ... monks. Especially, their stance in the Imjin War, in which they had every reason to see the downfall of the Yi Dynasty. Most particularly, Master Hyujong or Sosan Taesa, who answered King Sonjo's call to the monks to rise against the Japanese invaders. I've no actors to recommend.
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Post by sageuk on Nov 14, 2010 1:10:43 GMT -5
The last time I saw a drama about a monk, I was bored out of my mind. That monk was Shin Don, who contributed to driving the Mongols out of Koryo, serving as King Gongmin's advisor.
But the warrior monk could be interesting. The situation is conflicting as welll, which would work for the drama. The question: Joseon is a dynasty that condemns Buddhism, so what reason do the Buddhist monks have to fight for a country that persecutes them?
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Post by MTR on Nov 14, 2010 2:02:10 GMT -5
That is a good point ,Maybe when you think about it most of the Samurai had fought for Nobunaga prior to joining Hideyoshi who replaced him ,Anyway Nobunaga's hatred for warrior monks in fact monks period was well known as he pretty much eradicated them ,with that in mind they may have thought they would have it better under Sunjo than the Samurai , More than likely they were just protecting their local community though ,im pretty sure Hawley covers this and the Monks reason in his Imjin War book though its been a while since i have read it. Speaking of imjin there was Nongae about the Kiaseng who killed herself and a Samurai General (actually i think he was lower on the totem pole )that was a drama that was touted a few years back and has yet to be made ,Again it was on the MBC roster for 09 yet never made the cut.
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Post by truth on Nov 14, 2010 10:58:58 GMT -5
KBS has recently started 3 special history dramas of Three Kingdom Era war heroes.
1. King Geunchogo of Baekjae (currently airing) 2. King Gwangaeto the Great of Goguryeo 3. King Muyul(or Taejong) of Shilla
MBC will be doing a drama on King Onjo(the founder of Baekjae and the third son of Jumong) sometime next year.
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Post by MTR on Nov 14, 2010 17:12:04 GMT -5
Finally Gwangaeto The Great !!!!!!!! Best news in ages ,finally we can banish the memories of Legend and get behind this .
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Post by ajk on Nov 14, 2010 18:10:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, truth--If we don't get to see that Gwanggaeto series here in Chicago I"m going to be EXTREMELY ticked off. And it's not looking real good, to put it mildly. Been hoping they'd do a really good drama about him for years.
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Post by sageuk on Nov 14, 2010 18:27:22 GMT -5
So what do you people want to see dramatized? Clearly, people are excited about Gwanggaeto, Korea's Alexander the Great. Never saw Taewangsashingi, and I have no plans on doing so
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Post by MTR on Nov 14, 2010 19:26:02 GMT -5
If you like Kingdom Of The Winds than Taewangsashingi should be no problem as both have similar storyline's and music ,the problem with it is it really does not cover Gwanggaeto's life as in his conquest's and Jangsu is not even in it ,the ending was really lame but compared to say Empress its amazing . It was just we expected much more . Still if you want a Gorguryeo drama about doomed love than this is it .
To the original question Sambyeolcho for me .
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Post by truth on Nov 15, 2010 1:18:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, truth--If we don't get to see that Gwanggaeto series here in Chicago I"m going to be EXTREMELY ticked off. And it's not looking real good, to put it mildly. Been hoping they'd do a really good drama about him for years. oh its not starting any time soon by the way what i meant to say was that KBS has started Three Kingdom era war heroes project They are doing King Geunchogo first, which aired up to ep4 so far. It will end at ep70, and King Gwangaeto will start after that. So I don't think it will start until next fall. There is even a chance that they will move it to 2012
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Post by firearrow on Nov 15, 2010 22:15:49 GMT -5
This would not be a long lasting series, but in Age of the Warriors it was told of how Pink Lotus had the ability to turn away generals from her door that the Emperor could not ignore. She also was funding an army. Made me think did any of this kinds of armies make a big differnece in Korean history, did the women ever make battle plans, etc..?
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Post by truth on Nov 16, 2010 0:24:14 GMT -5
This would not be a long lasting series, but in Age of the Warriors it was told of how Pink Lotus had the ability to turn away generals from her door that the Emperor could not ignore. She also was funding an army. Made me think did any of this kinds of armies make a big differnece in Korean history, did the women ever make battle plans, etc..? Women making battle plans or fighting in the war are all fictional. None of that stuff happened. IE was not a warrior in real history, nor Chulin from DJY. Chulin is not even a real historical figure. Korea never had a Joan of Arc. The only woman comparable to Joan of Arc was Yoo Kwan Soon, who fought for Korean independence during the early 20th century until she died of torture from the Japanese police at the age of 17. She is probably the most respected woman in Korean history.
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Post by ajk on Nov 16, 2010 12:19:17 GMT -5
So Chulin never taught Princess Sukyoung how to sword-fight? Aw, truth, you're breaking my heart here. I'd have given a week's pay to see Sukyoung sword-fight in DJY.
Seriously, wasn't there some historical basis for the idea that DJY might have fathered a child with a Khitan woman early in his life? Maybe I'm wrong but I seem to remember learning during DJY that Chulin (while unrealistic as a female warrior) had some possible historical basis. Do you know anything more about that?
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Post by truth on Nov 16, 2010 14:50:40 GMT -5
So Chulin never taught Princess Sukyoung how to sword-fight? Aw, truth, you're breaking my heart here. I'd have given a week's pay to see Sukyoung sword-fight in DJY. Seriously, wasn't there some historical basis for the idea that DJY might have fathered a child with a Khitan woman early in his life? Maybe I'm wrong but I seem to remember learning during DJY that Chulin (while unrealistic as a female warrior) had some possible historical basis. Do you know anything more about that? nope there was no historical basis for that at all DJY was about 60% fictional and 40% true history
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