DEF JAM(I)

[MTR]

Oh sorry i could not resist .
Anyway back to our subject of historical tinkering
like Mikey when i heard of this i thought of Chae (who had a birthday last Thursday so happy belated )as lady Jami (EOS )and was really excited about this considering Hunae (In best Ricky Ricardo voice 'Hi Hunae im Hooommmee!!!!!!!) had a short but blood drenched tenure at the top of the ladder (was she really that bad ?,its worth looking at her victims and who wrote the history,case in point what the Tudors did to Richard 3rd ).
It seems Chae also was not to thrilled about doing "Jami Goes To Koryo "and wanted to be a more heroic type that her kiddies could look up to and being a big TV star she had no trouble getting her way ,though due to bum ratings i dont think KBS will be in a rush to give her another crack in a Historical Drama anytime soon .

next Gam Gamchan
He is a major figure in Korean History and i think it would have been much better if he had been the subject of this drama rather than Hunae .
As it is poor Lee Deokhwa such a great character but his role is not given much to do sadly as the real Gam was a major player in Koryo History .
The preview show had poor Lee counting his packs of smokes and hoping he had enough to get through the episode shoot ,that was a warning sign right there ,such a great character actor wasted in this drama .

[soapygrams]

;D "Def Jam " I nominate that as one of the best title parodies ever . . thanks for the laughs . . . ;D

Guess we should view this K-drama historically just like that film with Errol Flynn playing Gen George Custer: "They Died with Their Boots On" . . . what a crock . .
They only had a few true facts: the Date; the place and the fact that the 7th Cavalry got beaten . . but Gen Custer was a far cry from a heroic figure . . so Hunae can join those ranks . .

Maybe these types of fictionalized historicals should be viewed as comedies . . . less stress on our nerves that way . .

[ajk]

dyc, that stuff about Chae Shira dictating what kind of character she was going to play--is that just rumor or is it known to be true? I know that those kinds of stories can start flying around and later it turns out the story had gotten distorted somehow. I'm not doubting you; I'd just like to know if that's been 100% confirmed. Because if it's true it's a major, major story. And not just about IE; it's going to reflect on future historical series too.

[MTR]

Here say for sure it was in the on -line tabloids like Han Cinema a long time back ,
But the story and this is legend of course is that Chae really did not want the role as she had just given birth to her second daughter
and had to be cajoled into doing the role (this is factual up to this point )because she wanted to spend time with her family .
Another condition was she just did not want to play Jami pt 2 and wanted a more role model heroic type role so KBS agreed to meet her needs .
That said out of sheer frustration on my part i scanned a few mins of Ep #51 and from an unsubbed glance it looks like us History Buffs may get our wish ,which would refute Chae's demands if true ,Or KBS could have just said "sorry Chae!! Seon Duk (now extended to 80 plus episodes )is kicking our buts we have to get real ".
Anyway in Japan and HK its totally a case where actors can if big enough stars call the shots even replace Directors and Producers so i would imagine Korea is the same .
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[zorro]

Hmmm, that's interesting about her reluctance to play Jami II, but in that role she kept her icy coolness the whole series which made her so memorable.

Here in IE, these last few episodes with her "softer side" just make her look weak and not that credible especially when we see her next to ED Xiao who, along with her crew, completely outshines Hunae.

I hope you're right, DYC and they get real as soon as possible. I still like the show, but I prefer her lean and mean like she used to be. Maybe telling Kimmy Sue she wants to "be just friends" is a good start.