Yes my dad says that expressions do indeed differ from region to region, puppy.
That whole getting sick thing on Hyeonsu's part wasn't just because of the food, it was the missing part of our k-drama formula. One of the pining lovers has to get sick. I remember Jisu from High as the Sky getting a fever. Also Taeyeong from YAMD; didn't Danpung get sick too from LoN? And also Hanam from Chil Sisters. It was cute when he said he woke up and the next thing he knew, he was at Suin's house. Love led him there, cheesy but awesome lol.
Post by soapygrams on Jul 23, 2009 22:48:09 GMT -5
;D Hi All - I was so intrigued about the reference to the cotton tree that I had to try to find out whatever I could - so I googled it and this is what I found, I only checked out this link and I'm sure there are others . . but for our information - here's what I found:
T. Jamaica Superstitions; or the Obeah Book. Kingston: Mortimer C. DeSouza, 1894.
Spirituality and the cotton tree are not only connected in Jamaica but in Africa and other Caribbean territories. In Jamaica this huge, enormously buttressed tree is believed to be the dwelling place of spirits of the dead, particularly, its roots and branches. Simply put, the cotton tree is the home of duppies. The cotton tree is also associated with particular spirits such as, “Ol' Higue”, where it is said that she hangs her skin and the Rollin Calf is said to inhabit its roots during the days when it is not roaming.
For those of you who know about Jamaican folklore and history, I'm sure you'll know about Ol Higue and Rollin Calf - I didn't go any further with my research, so perhaps you can give us all a fuller explanation /? Anyway, I LOVE our board - we have such interesting tangents . . We are just so --- OFF TOPIC - but very interesting at least ;D
Soapy, your post made me shudder lol. Growing up, I've always heard stories about rolling calves and it's believed that if you see one, either you're gonna die or someone you know well/who lives in your neighbourhood is going to. If I remember, it's really like a ball of fire rolling and you hear chains or something like that going with it. Rather than Ol Higue, I know of Kine Higue (and I probably spelt it wrong) but usually my mom would say that a person sounds like a Kine Higue; maybe it's the same as a banshee, which would mean that it has the same effect as the rolling calf. Pretty scary stuff.
Tonight again I heard Dr mom say that she raised Jisu for Wimpy... how else could Wimpy have raised Jisu? Have they already forgotten that Wimpy didn't know that Jisu was alive? I really hate how Dr mom is behaving and in the previews, Hyeonsu gets punched again and just takes it. I'd say he took it like a girl but I'm one to fight back. Jisu needs to get over what Wimpy did already, and I can't for the life of me understand how this all turned out to make Wimpy look like the bad guy. Where's the anger towards Dr mom and pops? Oh that's right, they somehow managed to pull themselves out of any wrongdoing and lay it solely on Wimpy, cause she's a sponge. I'm not really angry, if I come off like it lol, just really frustrated and annoyed. I think because their children don't really act out in their teens, those parents don't know real drama. It's always the adult kids that have to beg and rebel and that's why it's so weird to understand.
I know all about duppies. My husband used to tell our sons when they were small and misbehaved, "Yuh cyan't do dat thing, bwai. Me call de duppies down on yuh!"
I know about Kine, too, as a witch but not the rollin calf unless it's the "chain dog" who howls in the night when somebody is going to die.
Now, back to TRH. Last night was such a hoot. Lady Doc and Wimpy asking their star-crossed GROWN children, "How could you do this TO ME!" It's as if Hyeonsu and Suin fell in love just to spite them.
And why all of a sudden are Lady Doc's objections to Suin centered around Jisu? How will Hyeonsu's marriage to Suin destroy her life?? I think it's all a writer's ploy leading to Jisu's approval of the marriage now that she's admitted her love for Hiro.
LOL puppy, my grandma used to do that to my mother and her siblings. I forgot what she said the duppy was called but she said after being threatened by it for so long, one night something did rattle the door. o.o I've never heard about the chain dog before but there's another one called Abna/Abner. With that one it's a cat meowing, which then turns into a baby crying, and you hear a lady hushing the baby. That also means that someone's going to die. I've only heard that one once in my life when I was around 14 and still in Jamaica, and I didn't think anything of it till I heard that one of our neighbours was gruesomely killed in a car accident. It completely freaked me out for days to know that it really existed cause you only hear of that happening in the 'old' days.
Well I hope Jisu quickyly approves of it and starts calling Wimpy, mom; that'd be a verbal slap in the face to Dr Mom, who is starting to look like the Grinch, lol. Minsu needs therapy, how can he not expect Miryeong to be deeply hurt by what he said? And her mom, who doesn't know the half of it, was even saying that Miryeong holds on to things too long. I wish she'd stay out of it this time. Miryeong should've had somewhere to go for a while with the kids.
Last Edit: Jul 25, 2009 12:41:59 GMT -5 by brooklyn
Last Friday, Jisu hugged Hiro. I'm hoping she finally admits she loves him and we don't see her back away in horror tonight, shocked at her breach of "professional" etiquette.
Now, as far as we know, she and Hiro are not related (unless Mrs. Guk is his aunt, no, not even then) so there can be no objections to their relationship. Of course, he is Japanese and from what I've seen (the girl from Kazakstan (sp?) in the drama with Baekho - name escapes me) cross-cultural romances are frowned upon.
Are we in for more parental fainting and weeping??
Post by soapygrams on Jul 27, 2009 22:14:16 GMT -5
Thanks brooklyn and Puppy, I just love learning about other cultures and their folklore. In my family, it's always been said that a howling dog foretells of an imminent death . . when I was a kid and lived in the Western states with my Dad's family for the summer, there were wolves roaming the hills nearby - but their howling is completely different sounding than a dog - maybe the Germ Shep and some of Huskies sound most like wolves.
I don't know what episode number we're on here in Chicago - I keep missing the start of the show and they only very briefly flash the number LOL - guess I'm just slow - well - heck - I'm old - so what LOL --
I watched up to episode 80 on mysoju - are you guys past that now? I'm going back to mysoju to see if any newer eps have been added.
Glad you're all part of our board . . it's great having so many different cultures to exchange information . . love you all . . ;D
Now, as to last nite's episode. Is anyone as irritated with the moms (Lady Doc and Wimpy) as I am? THEY are acting like the kids here, leaving the table in a huff, refusing to talk to Suin or Hyeonsu, taking to their beds oh so sick and suffering!
What's the problem? Suin's predicament wasn't her fault. When she came back home after the divorce, Wimpy APOLOGIZED for FORCING her to marry the scum. Suin reminded her of that and got slapped for it. She's not preggers any more and in no way related to Hyeonsu or Jisu. And as for Lady Doc, she said in an earlier episode that Suin was a serious, thoughtful girl.
It seems to me that the moms don't want the marriage for their own selfish reasons. They tell Suin and Hyeonsu that they'll never be happy then do everything they can to make them miserable.
Aww, Soapy, you're welcome anytime; this board's just an awesome place to be. We're at ep 95, I think.
I'm fed up with all the so-called grownups in this drama. They just have no respect for their children. I love a close knit family, but the parents in the dramas come off as obsessive instead of caring; especially mother-son relationships.
I read some spoilers the other night, don't remember where I found them now, but GA gets worst. I now feel the need to give up on watching the rest of this drama cause you know I'm waiting for GA to get a beatdown but from the looks of it, she won't.
Last nite was just too much with the slapping and hair pulling. Why don't these people trust their kids?? (In fact, they're not kids at all but 27 and 30 or something.)
Being a parent myself, I'm trying to give the elders the benefit of the doubt but it doesn't add up. Lady Doc doesn't want the relationship not because Suin is a divorced hussy but because she hates Wimpy who's the widow of her brother-in-law. Wimpy doesn't want it not because she hates Lady Doc (she actually went over to the office after she slapped Suin and apologized to her!) but because Hyeonsu and Jisu (not Hyeonsu and Suin) are cousins. The dads just go along with their wives and MUST BE OBEYED. Jisu wants it all to go away as she claims to have enough stress in her life right now (wait until she tells tem about Hiro,) Minsu objects because he's an ass, GA to justify her rash actions, and Sumi because she's jealous.
Those are really shallow reasons to keep a good son and daughter who truly love each other apart. I hope Suin accepts the ring and takes Hyeonsu to New Zealand with her.
Right, puppy! Last nite was quite an episode. It's hard to understand how Gangster Aunt can act like that and think she is an adult - pulling both Suin and Wimpy Mom's hair.....and Lady Doc slapping Suin? How can GA blame everything on everyone else but herself - is she in denial or what? Grandpa is the only one who seems to have any sense although he is still against the marriage.
When Hyeonsu said "Let's give up" I gasped out loud until I heard the rest of the sentence...they do seem like a strong couple. In other dramas family opposition made the couples break up a lot easier....
Last Edit: Jul 31, 2009 14:59:57 GMT -5 by maranyc
Last nite reminded me of the Romance novels I used to read as a youngster - Hyeonsu riding in on his white horse and sweeping Suin away from her evil tormenters. If the scene was shown in a movie theater, the audience would have stood up and cheered.
We need Taeyeong's mom from YAMD to ask what makes Dr. mom so well off. lol Come to think of it, that situation is kind of similiar except Suin lost her baby and Taeyeong's wife had a grown kid.
Sumi still needs a smack. Who invited her into the conversation with Jisu, Wimpy, and handsome dad? Augh. And I forgot to ask, why did she let GA in? I'm seriously beginning to think she wanted GA to smack Wimpy around. I change the channel whenever GA has a scene these days, I'm afraid a blood vessel might pop if I watch her get away with her rubbish time after time. Only 20+ eps to go, woo.