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Post by Ask on Feb 12, 2008 4:03:28 GMT -5
I think same as you Kambis. Western media too much rely on sex. Even music videos I horror to see. Some singers are very young and yet dress too sexy and move like a pro. It is like child porno. And some in their good old days like Madonna, Britney Spears, Spice Girls etc. are awful terrible singers! Their sound and William Hung in same standard. But they are millionaries and succesful because they sell sexy image. Not selling singing talent.
I thought to myself that to improve English, I read romance novels. So I buy a few but description is too porno like. Even high writers like Nora Roberts, Brenda Joyce, Stella Cameron. If couple do not have sex they say they are not sure of the other and always wondering if they can be good match. Only after have sex and if good then they say yes they suited. Is this forever love or forever lust?!
And today I find that cosmetics company Blue Q use Jesus to brand their products. It is not right! Even I not Christian feel disgust at cheap marketing ploy. I will never buy any more products from them unless they recall and apologise. Otherwise if I buy is like I support this kind of disrespect.
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Post by seven stars on Feb 12, 2008 8:44:53 GMT -5
You're making some good points Ask.
It's clear to many of us that America is very much a sexually overheated society. Everywhere you turn the idea(s) of sex are being used to sell something, gain exposure or build popularity.
Here in the U.S. we use an expression that refers to money as "the bottom line". This means that the only thing that matters to some people is making money. What I'm describing may truly be one of the dark sides of capitalism. Morality doesn't matter to many people who can make a dollar doing something objectionable.
However, I would like to point out that not all Americans are morally loose, fast talkers and deal makers. A large number of us are simple people, trying to provide for our families and to live full lives with the people that we love. In that respect there are many Americans who may be very similar to the kind of people that you have grown up with.
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Post by diurf on Feb 12, 2008 20:03:33 GMT -5
Wether you like kambis or not. It is still illegal to use. The federal gov. can still institute laws to prevent its use and distribution.
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Post by tinkerbell on Feb 12, 2008 20:15:37 GMT -5
I agree with all of you and just because big business tries to force this on us doesn't mean all of us like it or agree with it.
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Post by Ask on Feb 13, 2008 3:10:09 GMT -5
Wether you like kambis or not. It is still illegal to use. The federal gov. can still institute laws to prevent its use and distribution. I not understanding this. I though Kambis is a person who wrote message. My message is that I agree with her post. I do not know about kambis object. |
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Post by Ask on Feb 13, 2008 3:15:30 GMT -5
You're making some good points Ask. It's clear to many of us that America is very much a sexually overheated society. Everywhere you turn the idea(s) of sex are being used to sell something, gain exposure or build popularity. Here in the U.S. we use an expression that refers to money as "the bottom line". This means that the only thing that matters to some people is making money. What I'm describing may truly be one of the dark sides of capitalism. Morality doesn't matter to many people who can make a dollar doing something objectionable. However, I would like to point out that not all Americans are morally loose, fast talkers and deal makers. A large number of us are simple people, trying to provide for our families and to live full lives with the people that we love. In that respect there are many Americans who may be very similar to the kind of people that you have grown up with. Dear SevenStars I always like to read your message in all threads. Very often messgae is very good points. Now I know that not all Americans are bad. But it took me many years to know. Based on tv and how Americans behave when not in own country I thought all Americans are loud mouth, friviolous, immoral ... Then I have next door American neigbhour. For many time I run for life when see neigbhours as I thought they bad people. Slowly we become friends and I surprised they are good people. When I visited America and walking down road, a car with 5 young teens stopped in front of me. The boys throw water ballon at me and shout that I smelly Asian should go home and not pollute white America. Immediately a group of passersby scolded the boys. One took picture of car and boys and said will send to police. Lady at shop nearby give me free clothes and many apologies. I have many other stories. But each time one bad American, many good American I meet. So I know that how to say, not all apples are bad? It is not this meaning to say when I sent yesterday message. |
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Post by tinkerbell on Feb 13, 2008 12:35:26 GMT -5
Dear Ask, Not all Americans are loud mouthed, frivolous, or immoral. They just seem to be the ones that catch your attention because of their bad behavior. I'm sorry you had to encounter the rotten apples, but there are a lot of good apples too like us.  Join us anytime!!! |
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Post by ginnycat5 on Feb 13, 2008 16:07:18 GMT -5
I thought to myself that to improve English, I read romance novels. So I buy a few but description is too porno like. Even high writers like Nora Roberts, Brenda Joyce, Stella Cameron. If couple do not have sex they say they are not sure of the other and always wondering if they can be good match. Only after have sex and if good then they say yes they suited. Is this forever love or forever lust?! You might like reading some mysteries, like the ones by Rita Mae Brown and SneakyPie Brown (her cat  ). They take place in a small town in Virginia, in the mountains. There are murders, but most of the people in the town are good company. Also Ellis Peters' Brother Cadfael mysteries are fun; they take place in 12th century England and Wales. I've heard that Jan Karon writes interesting and uplifting books. Here's a site in England: www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/jan-karon/at-home-in-mitford.htmThere's also Jane Austen. Or Louisa May Alcott's Little Women, if you haven't read it. I like reading children's or young adult books too. A Single Shard by Linda Sue Park takes place in Korea. This drama board has lots of readers, so I'm sure you'll get more suggestions if you want them.  |
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Post by seven stars on Feb 14, 2008 10:54:09 GMT -5
Dear SevenStars I always like to read your message in all threads. Very often messgae is very good points. Now I know that not all Americans are bad. But it took me many years to know. Based on tv and how Americans behave when not in own country I thought all Americans are loud mouth, friviolous, immoral ... Then I have next door American neigbhour. For many time I run for life when see neigbhours as I thought they bad people. Slowly we become friends and I surprised they are good people. When I visited America and walking down road, a car with 5 young teens stopped in front of me. The boys throw water ballon at me and shout that I smelly Asian should go home and not pollute white America. Immediately a group of passersby scolded the boys. One took picture of car and boys and said will send to police. Lady at shop nearby give me free clothes and many apologies. I have many other stories. But each time one bad American, many good American I meet. So I know that how to say, not all apples are bad? It is not this meaning to say when I sent yesterday message. Ask, I am glad to have made your acquaintance. Hopefully we can continue to dialogue on this webpage. Let me say that I also apologize for the behavior of those boys in the car, and other Americans who have offended you over the years! Your friendship is appreciated. -7S |
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Post by seven stars on Feb 14, 2008 10:54:41 GMT -5
Wether you like kambis or not. It is still illegal to use. The federal gov. can still institute laws to prevent its use and distribution. Diurf, are you referring to Cannibis (as in Marijuana)? |
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Post by TheBo on Feb 14, 2008 11:17:51 GMT -5
Wether you like kambis or not. It is still illegal to use. The federal gov. can still institute laws to prevent its use and distribution. I not understanding this. I though Kambis is a person who wrote message. My message is that I agree with her post. I do not know about kambis object. I believe that diurf thinks we are talking about cannibis, which is marijuana. Kambis (actually, I think she (he?) calls herself Kumbis16, which may be a play on her actual name) is a member of this board who said something that Ask wanted to respond to. I thank you, Ask, for doing it in the way I requested. I meant to tell you that. So, diurf, don't worry, no one is asking us to smoke marijuana. Bo PS= LOL. It took so long for me to finish my post, and there is 7S, just writing a simple question. I always knew I talked toooooooo much. |
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Post by seven stars on Feb 14, 2008 11:46:41 GMT -5
For the record, I don't mind listening (or actually reading I guess) to you talk Bo.
BTW, I spelled cannibis wrong but fixed it. Thanks pal!
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Post by Ask on Feb 15, 2008 3:48:01 GMT -5
Hello Ginny Cat
I thank you for list of books. I have read Little Women and like very much Jane Austen. I will print list and borrow other books. Thanks very much for making list for me.
Dear 7Stars
Please no need to say sorry. One bad american meet many more good americans. It is good thing that bad boys throw water balon at me. Lady at shop nearby gave me free clothing to change as my dress all wet. When I go home to country and tell family they prepare thank you basket for lady. My friend from hometown she bring basket when she went to USA to study. After that friend go often to shop just to talk to shop lady as she very nice woman. Shop lady is quite old and no family and happy to see my friend and other young people. When my friend have no place to stay after landlord want back room, shop lady say my friend can stay with her. Shop lady wanting to rent room but scared to take bad tenant as she old and alone. So now both happy. Shop lady got good tenant and freind got good landlord. They every Sunday go out together and friend treat shop lady like Mama, with respect. In hometown, we very happy that our friend is safe with good person to live with. So bad boys do bad thing but Merciful God turn it to something good.
Dear Bo
I sorry for mistake in Kumbis16 name and give you more work to do. You are nice lady.
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Post by seven stars on Feb 15, 2008 8:31:58 GMT -5
Hello Ginny Cat I thank you for list of books. I have read Little Women and like very much Jane Austen. I will print list and borrow other books. Thanks very much for making list for me. Dear 7Stars Please no need to say sorry. One bad american meet many more good americans. It is good thing that bad boys throw water balon at me. Lady at shop nearby gave me free clothing to change as my dress all wet. When I go home to country and tell family they prepare thank you basket for lady. My friend from hometown she bring basket when she went to USA to study. After that friend go often to shop just to talk to shop lady as she very nice woman. Shop lady is quite old and no family and happy to see my friend and other young people. When my friend have no place to stay after landlord want back room, shop lady say my friend can stay with her. Shop lady wanting to rent room but scared to take bad tenant as she old and alone. So now both happy. Shop lady got good tenant and freind got good landlord. They every Sunday go out together and friend treat shop lady like Mama, with respect. In hometown, we very happy that our friend is safe with good person to live with. So bad boys do bad thing but Merciful God turn it to something good. Dear Bo I sorry for mistake in Kumbis16 name and give you more work to do. You are nice lady. Ask, I must say that I appreciate your grace. Further, you have given us all a very clear example of a bad event being turned into a blessing. Thanks for sharing that story with us! |
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Post by teacher on Feb 15, 2008 14:18:03 GMT -5
Dear Ask,
Thank you for sharing that heart-warming story with all of us. It is important to share stories of kindness, especially when we are all saddened by yet another senseless loss of young people in the massacre at NIU.
Kam sahamida.
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). They take place in a small town in Virginia, in the mountains. There are murders, but most of the people in the town are good company. Also Ellis Peters' Brother Cadfael mysteries are fun; they take place in 12th century England and Wales. 
