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Post by kathleen34 on Mar 30, 2007 7:10:58 GMT -5
Major sappy and stupid. Such a letdown after Jini.
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Post by gpaul on Mar 30, 2007 7:31:19 GMT -5
I liked it Kathleen, sometimes I just want to be entertained and laugh out loud. No emotional roller coaster rides while I watch, no death or illness, just a cute and funny comedy/drama.
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Post by PippiBella on Mar 30, 2007 8:27:33 GMT -5
I Liked it! I thought it was CUTE!
Can anyone help me. I read on some site that their will be a new show called "as big as heaven and as wide as earth"( Or something like that) airing on mon and tues. Does anyone know when and what time this show will start or if it already has? Thanks
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Post by mikey on Mar 30, 2007 9:01:24 GMT -5
I’ve viewed "Dalja's Spring" up to episode 5, and while I like it as a kind of “change-of-pace” comedy-drama, I admit it’s not exactly high art. While I’m not totally thrilled with it, some of the folks on the California board are flat-out crazy about it, so I hope people will give it a fair chance to see if it's to their liking. Stylistically, “Dalja’s Spring” is a whole lot like the much loved MBC comedy-drama of a few years back, “My Name is Kim Sam-soon.” I honestly found the overweight, smart-mouthed-but-insecure Sam-soon to be a much more appealing and sympathetic character than Dalja (who’s brought most of her problems upon herself) but absolutely, if you find yourself liking “Dalja’s Spring,” you owe yourself a viewing of the similarly styled (but arguably superior) “My Name is Kim Sam-soon.” I read on some site that their will be a new show called "as big as heaven and as wide as earth"( Or something like that) airing on mon and tues. Actually, that one should be replacing "Pure in Heart" (soon) as Chicago's next KBS daily drama.
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Post by PippiBella on Mar 30, 2007 9:49:00 GMT -5
There is another one called" When spring comes"(Kkotpineum Bomi Omyeon). They say it is going to play on mon and tues. ( I made a mistake with the name on my previous post). Have you heard of it? Thanks
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Post by Lucy on Mar 30, 2007 10:47:10 GMT -5
I like the show, though I don't really like Chae Rim or her character very much, and I personally dislike seeing the age-ism inherent in the Korean dating scene. I like the curveballs the show is throwing--the naivete (which I shared) of thinking she had found love at a certain point when really she was in the hands of a player, for example. A lot happened in the first episode. But I'm afraid it will all be downhill from here. I think we have ALL seen ENOUGH of the tired plot, which would never happen in real life, where one person hires another to pose as a boyfriend/girlfriend and they really fall in love. It's just stupid. I predict that the pleasure from this show will come from its frothiness, plus the characters promise to be a little different than we've seen. Of course, we've got yet another traditional virgin heroine, but the winking at premarital sex is at least different.
I couldn't believe the way the people in the office were talking about and to her. What a bunch of creeps.
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Post by dreamie on Mar 30, 2007 11:21:30 GMT -5
I like it but I find a lot of the situations staged without care -- if you want to have a romantic comedy full of chance meetings, near misses, wacky happenings you kind of have to make them look real. I know kdrama writers are good enough to do this, but I did not get the feeling that I was on a fun ride last nite. More like the characters standing there (or sitting there) saying "LOOK! This is IMPORTANT! And WACKY!"
But I think this could be a very fun show. I saw the interview of Dalja and her paid beau on the entertainment show (with some major spoilers D=). The actor who plays the beau doesn't seem all that bright, but in an inadvertantly hilarious way.
And thanks for the tip, Mikey.
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Post by creidesca on Mar 30, 2007 11:55:51 GMT -5
My initial impression of the first episode was that it was 'Ally Mcbeal'-ish, but by the second episode I saw how it attacked the problems of a 33-yr old career woman in a realistic way, especially when Dalja is still an inexperienced girl, not worldly, like Seon Joo. There have been comments on the SoCal as well as soompi board that for some it was difficult to relate to Dalja because they are not from the same generation or didn't come from a similar background as Dalja. I believe a poster from the SoCal board wrote that her mom told her she'd understand and appreciate the drama more when she'd get older. Many have commented on Dalja's heavy make-up too. But what should be asked is what's the significance for the heavy make-up. An easy answer is to make Chae Rim look older for her 33-yr old role, however, looking beyond that, isn't the application of make-up to hide a flaw? For Dalja, it's not necessarily a physical one. It's imperative to understand, the below, as it is the official synopsis of the drama, translated by n5y17cgirl: Single woman in her 30's... happy for self-indulgence...In the 80's, girls spent their teen years believing that virginity and purity were a woman's virtue. In the 90's, they spent their 20's exclaiming that in order for women to become equal with men, they had to be independent. Then reached their 30's.. thinking that the "big party" (the prime of their lives) was over. Now they begin to realize- from where men sleep (or who they sleep with), from men's competitive nature- what successful liberation is. They learn that trifling matters can be cool. Sometimes it's ok to be mean without giving it a second thought. One can let go of all the money, power, success and still be strong... getting married isn't some homework one has to do. It's great if you marry, and if you don't... ultimately it's a choice... This is the pattern of life for the 30 year old spinster for the past 21 years. This is the happy, single, golden season of the life she chose. Single woman in her 30's... love is like a never ending spring day to them too.A little too old for living recklessly and adventurously, yet young enough not to simply settle down and lead a peaceful (boring) life. Having passion still left in them, yet knowing too much about the world to blindly follow their passions alone. Standing at a major crossroad in their lives... choosing to remain forever single, or to ride the last wedding train. These 30 year old single women, however, still dream about the love as they have always been. Beautiful as ever, this is their story... At thirty-three, even though the "prime of their lives" may now be over, just like in sketches or portraits, these women are as usual waiting for spring on a beautiful day like today. in this passage, the Korean word for 'spring' can be, for most parts, interchangeable with its alternate meaning 'prime of their lives.' Isn't the first part of the synopsis, what Dalja is? Recall her restroom conversation with her sunbae in the first episode, after the fish accident. Note how the sunbae's views differed later, as opposed to the one heard in this scene, too. Might I also add that the restroom conversations are very characteristic of females. ;D So I think that's why the first episode started out the way it did...showing viewers Dalja's ideals and impressions while in her 20's, then progressively to her ideals and growing impressions in her 30's. Also, I don't consider this as a spoiler, but if you guys consider it to be, feel free to edit this post: take into consideration that all her life Dalja has pretty much only been around females--she attended an all-girl high school and college and lived in a female-only dormitory; we don't see a father figure; look who she goes to for advice... I must stress the importance of examining the illustrations featured in each episode (the one that comes along with the episode's title, and the one at the end of the episode) and relate it to the episode's title and overall episode. And have fun interpreting the ending illustrations--see how close you are to the next episode's title and overall message. Even take note of the BGM and its significance to the scene its heard in. Episode 1: Things that Drive Her CrazyIn the above illustration, strands of DJ's hair is curled about a car [characterizing her no sense for directions], her family home [mom who has been harping at her forever to date/get a boyfriend], a tall building [her apt complex and its inhabitants], a wad of bills [her job as an MD of a home shopping network, and preoccupation with finances]...but just out of her grasp is...maybe all those things are tying her down, preventing her from being able to reach...
Now take a look at the ending illustration:
Dalja, as well as a majority of us, place a heavy emphasis on the outer-appearance--a theme that will pop up again in the ensuing episodes...
May I also suggest to take a look at the soompi thread for the drama? As a mod there, I've pretty much went through the entire 150+ pages [start from page 16+], removing such comments as 'I love [name of actor/actress]', requests for links, unnecessary chat, spam, so that as you flip through the pages, what you will see are the discussions related to the drama, arguments for this side or that, and so forth.
I like it but I find a lot of the situations staged without care -- if you want to have a romantic comedy full of chance meetings, near misses, wacky happenings you kind of have to make them look real. I know kdrama writers are good enough to do this, but I did not get the feeling that I was on a fun ride last nite. More like the characters standing there (or sitting there) saying "LOOK! This is IMPORTANT! And WACKY!"
can you tell me which scene(s) you are referring to?
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Post by HappyCamper on Mar 30, 2007 13:10:07 GMT -5
I thought it was cute but certainly not Hwang Jini. Still, I've learned the hard way to give these dramas a few weeks before I decide if I love or hate them. Several that I didn't like originally became my favorites once I really got into the story line. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows how many episodes there will be. Thanks.
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Post by dreamie on Mar 30, 2007 13:44:19 GMT -5
Creidesca, pretty much all/the whole approach. Most notably the last scene in the office where everyone who could possibly be important to the drama is gathered and all talking about Dalja.
I like the premise of the show and I like comedies, so I hope the first episode was just trying to give us a lot of information in a hurry, but I don't think the writing is all that strong. It's like they thought, wow we have a fluff drama, lets not write to craft.
There are a lot of really funny romantic comedies that start with the premise of revenge The timing of this one needs to be better and more plausable.
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Post by mikey on Mar 30, 2007 13:59:23 GMT -5
There is another one called" When spring comes"(Kkotpineum Bomi Omyeon). They say it is going to play on mon and tues. ( I made a mistake with the name on my previous post). Have you heard of it? Thanks "When Spring Comes" hasn't started on my satellite station yet, and I don't think it's started in Chicago, either. So, I can't offer any comments, but KoreanWiz does have a page ready about the show: www.koreanwiz.org/at/drama-whenspringcomes.htmland there's also the official KBS page (in Korean . . .) www.kbs.co.kr/drama/spring/index.htmlIt’s interesting that actor Kim Gap-soo, who's made something of a career playing evil, scary men (like dictator Choi Choong-hon in “Age of Warriors,” and pirate Master Yi in “Emperor of the Sea”) apparently has a comedic role in this drama. It could be worth checking out just for that.
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Post by BAE on Mar 30, 2007 14:23:03 GMT -5
I thought the show was light-hearted and fun to watch. That Taebong guy is a funny character. Chae Rim scares me. Her character's pretty funny, but she herself scares me a bit. I wish they would've cast someone else. The snooty model annoys me because she looks like her face would tear if she tried to smile. I think I'll have to wait for the next episode to see if I'll be writing this one off. I definitely miss HJI, but it's not fair to compare the two dramas because they're way too different from eachother. This drama, like lucy mentioned, is a bit predictable, but I'd like to see the process anyway. Hope they don't end up making it tackier than what I'm expecting.
A big thanks to Creidesca for the information provided. I thought the illustrations add a bit to understanding the storyline. They're rather symbolic, but since they only flash on the screen for like 2 seconds, one really couldn't see the detail. Thanks for that.
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Post by creidesca on Mar 30, 2007 15:24:43 GMT -5
One question I have to ask...I know KBS-LA here in SoCal is notorious for cutting scenes from episodes. My goodness for EP 5 of Dalja's Spring, they cut out an entire 26min section (it wasn't like 5min here, and then another 5min somewhere else, but a complete section)...you guys aren't experiencing such a problem there, right?
The official website for DJS has a complete section dedicated to these illustrations. So if you missed out on any one, you can go there to take a look (but they're not as large as the ones I posted here...the soompi ones provide sizes as large as the ones I posted here, with some even much larger, for easier examination/interpretation)
dramaok and cafeaulait, has this to say about the use of dialogue in Dal Ja's Spring:
from cafeaulait:
from dramaok, in response to cafeaulait:
KBS World's subs aren't at their best the past couple of years, so you're losing a lot in translation...best to check out the fansubs.
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Post by Soju on Mar 30, 2007 16:32:15 GMT -5
One question I have to ask...I know KBS-LA here in SoCal is notorious for cutting scenes from episodes. My goodness for EP 5 of Dalja's Spring, they cut out an entire 26min section (it wasn't like 5min here, and then another 5min somewhere else, but a complete section)...you guys aren't experiencing such a problem there, right? I always wonder, when I read the SoCal board, why KBS America's flagship station would cut so much stuff. Years ago, we had a problem where [then] ch28 would just leave the tape running on the drama when they cut to a commercial, thus losing the length of the commercial, but they have mended their ways in that regard (usually). I noticed that several dramas of the era of 'My Sweetheart', 'Bizarre Bunch', 'Rosy Life', etc., had many scenes cut out. I was sure that the edits were not being done by WOCH because, frankly, I didn't think they could do that professional of a job of editing. I e-mailed somone at KBS America, and he replied that they have strict limits on how much any local station can edit, and would I please send him a VHS tape of the offending shows so they could check if it was within their guidelines (yeah, right : . I noticed, though, that all susequent dramas had the same running time as they did in Korea, once you subtracted out WOCH's commercials. I guess this squeaky wheel got some grease. It really pains me when I read the SoCal board to find how much you guys are being cheated.
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Post by Lucy on Mar 30, 2007 17:36:58 GMT -5
Wow, Soju, thanks! I didn't know, or forgot, that you did that.
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