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Post by Truth on Mar 14, 2007 2:28:43 GMT -5
I meant Jumong is the one who established goguryeo not yi soon shin True, Jumong established Goguryeo but the country doesn't just become 'strong' on the day it is built. Does it?
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Post by bowflex on Mar 14, 2007 11:19:42 GMT -5
No, your 100% right. But jumong did conquer a lot within a 10 year period to establish goguryeo. What i'm basically just saying is that jumong did a lot to establish goguryeo and its good to have someone like you with a lot of knowledge. How do you know so much?
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Post by Truth on Mar 14, 2007 17:13:36 GMT -5
No, your 100% right. But jumong did conquer a lot within a 10 year period to establish goguryeo. What i'm basically just saying is that jumong did a lot to establish goguryeo and its good to have someone like you with a lot of knowledge. How do you know so much? I'm a fob, that's why. If you don't know what it means, ask a Korean person in your school.
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Post by Truth on Mar 14, 2007 17:18:10 GMT -5
No, your 100% right. But jumong did conquer a lot within a 10 year period to establish goguryeo. What i'm basically just saying is that jumong did a lot to establish goguryeo and its good to have someone like you with a lot of knowledge. How do you know so much? I'm a fob, that's why. If you don't know what it means, ask a Korean person in your school. school, job, community or whatever. only koreans know what 'fob' means
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Post by BungalowDweller on Mar 14, 2007 17:44:07 GMT -5
Alot of us have been out of school for a looooong time, Truth! And we're a board with many ethnicities. Therefore, please enlighten us. What, exactly is a fob? To many Americans,those initials call to mind "Friend of Bill" (Clinton) when he was running for prez! ;D
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Post by Truth on Mar 14, 2007 18:01:54 GMT -5
Alot of us have been out of school for a looooong time, Truth! And we're a board with many ethnicities. Therefore, please enlighten us. What, exactly is a fob? To many Americans,those initials call to mind "Friend of Bill" (Clinton) when he was running for prez! ;D Fob is a what the Korean Americans(Koreans who were born in the U.S) call the Koreans who were born in Korea. Fob stands for 'Fresh off the boat.'
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Post by bowflex on Mar 15, 2007 13:24:05 GMT -5
Ya i definately didn't know that plus i don't know to many korean people. The only korean person i know is my mom. the other asian people i know are not korean so ya thanks for letting us know on why your so smart
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Post by Truth on Mar 15, 2007 19:08:21 GMT -5
Ya i definately didn't know that plus i don't know to many korean people. The only korean person i know is my mom. the other asian people i know are not korean so ya thanks for letting us know on why your so smart i'm not smart. i just know a lot about korean history
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Post by BungalowDweller on Mar 15, 2007 21:20:07 GMT -5
Fob is a what the Korean Americans(Koreans who were born in the U.S) call the Koreans who were born in Korea. Fob stands for 'Fresh off the boat.' Interesting. When I was a kid, immigrants were referred to (sometimes in a derogatory manner, sometimes not) as d.p.s. (Displaced persons) referring to a certain refugee status. My husband and his friends referred to themselves as exiles.
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Post by moreshige2 on Mar 16, 2007 3:36:27 GMT -5
But its okay. Some Fobs who know better have their own name for certain Korean Americans: twinkies (yellow exterior, white interior). Not too flattering, though because for 2nd or subsequent generation Asians it's harder for us to throw off that immigrant perception among our own community as well as outside of it. If we don't speak the language of our parents or forefathers then we become "white". And so sometimes we are forced to choose between one culture over the other. That's one difference I would say we have with non-Asian immigrants whose children can assimilate without the foreigner label tacked onto them while growing up here in the US. I always tell people that my parents were the immigrants and not me.....just because I'm Asian doesn't mean that my hometown is Seoul, Beijing or Tokyo.
Well back to discussion. I came to know of King Kwangaetto from reading about a stele discovered way beyond the borders of North Korea. Apparently, the stele listed all his achievements of conquest. It was said that during the Japanese occupation (1910 - 1945) some Japanese officer had found the stele and destroyed or altered several of the Chinese characters. Some scholars speculate that the destroyed words had some significant bearing on Japan and that officer wanted to hide its meaning to the rest of the world.
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Post by moreshige2 on Mar 16, 2007 3:46:31 GMT -5
Yi Soon Shin lived during the time of Chosun dynasty which is like 1000 years after Goguryeo's downfall. Even in Chosun period, Yi Soon Shin did not establish Chosun. Chosun was established by Lee Sung Gye. yes. it was 924 years to be exact from the downfall of Goguryeo in 668 AD to the start of the Imjin Waeran in 1592.
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Post by bowflex on Mar 16, 2007 11:25:02 GMT -5
I'm shocked that know one voted for Ulji Mun-Dok. Some sites have his name spelled Eulji Mundeok. I think that he was in the Yeon Gaesumon show, i'm not positive but that was the era that he was in. He was in the goguryeo and sui wars. I was really well known for the battle of salsu river
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Post by Ben on Apr 22, 2007 20:41:41 GMT -5
Here is more info on K'Getto en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwanggaeto_the_Great_of_GoguryeoDid ya guys know; Sth Korean's greatest military medals 1st grade - YSS (Yi Sunshin) 2nd grade - Uljimundok 3rd grade - KYS (Kim YuShin) Others, Kwangetto, Kang Kam-chan, DaeJoyoung, Sejong (even he was not general, his name is used in Military medal), Jangsu, Jangbogo, Gaebaek etc..
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Post by SIU on Apr 24, 2007 7:09:04 GMT -5
only koreans know what 'fob' means It's worth noting that the term 'Fob' is used by a lot of Asians not only Koreans.
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Post by mikey on May 1, 2007 15:52:57 GMT -5
I'm shocked that know one voted for Ulji Mun-Dok. Some sites have his name spelled Eulji Mundeok. I think that he was in the Yeon Gaesumon show, i'm not positive but that was the era that he was in. He was in the goguryeo and sui wars. I was really well known for the battle of salsu river Found this portrait of Ulji Mundeok (or however you Romanize it - don’t ask me! ;D) on the web yesterday: Yes, I remember his character on the SBS drama “Yeon Gae-So-Mun” where he was presented as a brilliantly innovative strategist. It’s possible that time has exaggerated the stories of his military genius (I recall one scene in the SBS drama where he builds a giant dam - perhaps this is the event at the Salsu river you mention - and breaks it apart as the fleeing Su Chinese are trying to cross) but there’s no doubt that he ranks among Korea’s greatest generals.
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