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Post by Truth on Feb 24, 2007 13:02:16 GMT -5
I believe "Jumong" is being shown in HK/ Southern China. Still trying to figure out how it got passed the sensors there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Korean historical dramas have upset Chinese authorities and Internet users alike. Chinese authorities have imposed a press embargo on "Taewangsashingi," about the Koguryo Kingdom (37BC-668AD) from the early days until King Kwanggaeto the Great, and Chinese Internet users are calling "Chumong," about the early kingdom’s founding, chauvinistic and anti-Chinese. Tianya Club, one of the most popular Internet forums in China, and Chinese search engine Baidu are inundated with messages attacking "Chumong." Users complain Korean drama is following in the footsteps of Japanese attempts to rewrite history, depicting Koreans as innocent and the Han-dynasty Chinese as cruel. "The drama portrays Han China as even nastier than Japan,?one message says. "What are the Chinese authorities doing? Korea is airing this kind of vicious TV drama all around the world." (IMG:http://english.chosun.com/media/photo/news/200702/200702050013_01.jpg) Hong Kong’s ATV, which started airing "Chumong" once a week last month, has changed “Han Dynasty" into "Tian Zhao" (meaning “a country ruled by the son of Heaven,?its name among vassal states) and "countries" into "tribes" in the subtitles. ATV says it “revised?some sensitive lines. “’Chumong' is an interesting and well-produced drama. But its theme is simply a myth or legend,?it said. The Chinese Communist Party’s information department has imposed a press embargo on "Taewangsashingi," which starts airing in September, because it tackles the hairy historical questions of Koguryo, a kingdom China has for some time attempted to co-opt as part of Chinese history. Starring Korean Wave star Bae Yong-joon in his first TV drama in five years, "Taewangsashingi?is the most expensive Korean TV drama ever made with W45 billion (US$1=W937) in production cost. Hong Kong weekly Yazhou Zhoukan said China feels uneasy about a succession of Korean TV dramas about the early Koguryo and Barhae kingdoms. They also include "Yongaesomun," which portrays a general in the later Koguryo period who repelled four invasion attempts by the Tang Dynasty, and "Taejoyong" about the Barhae founder uniting refugees after the fall of Koguryo. In its Feb. 4 edition, the magazine quotes Korea experts as saying such shows do not amount to a cultural invasion but rather provide opportunity for "cultural fusion" between the two countries. The weekly points out that many Korean pop stars are appearing in Chinese TV dramas and the two countries continue to co-produce films and TV dramas. the only reason Jumong is shown is because Jumong is a fantasy drama, not historical. Plus, Chinese are wearing European knight armors in there so it makes them look cool.
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Post by cheonson on Feb 25, 2007 10:55:54 GMT -5
I don't know why chinese governemnt is so serious about Korean historical dramas. Didn't they even uncomfortable when DaeJangGum were attracting Chinese people?
What is the matter with Jumong while many chinese are into Jumong now?
The worst things for me in Jumong is the relationship between Han dynasty and Buyeo ; Buyeo (the ancestoral dynasty of Old JoSun) has never been under the influence of Han chinese, and the funny Han armies' armor and mask : in that time, they even didn't have metal armor. It is Old Josun who produced metal armor first during that time. The playwriter of the Jumong drama seems to intentionally distort part of history to make jumong and Goguryeo more mythical and to attract audience.
Now Jumong drama is running last parts of the series and it is showing real powerful Goguryeo but the writer would hardly stop audience's complaints about the distortion of Korean history. They have 2 episodes left to show and I wonder if they show the enthronement of Yuri, the second Taewang of Goguryeo and the foundation of Baekje by OnJo and Shilla by Biryu.
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Post by Truth on Feb 25, 2007 11:03:55 GMT -5
I don't know why chinese governemnt is so serious about Korean historical dramas. Didn't they even uncomfortable when DaeJangGum were attracting Chinese people? What is the matter with Jumong while many chinese are into Jumong now? The worst things for me in Jumong is the relationship between Han dynasty and Buyeo ; Buyeo (the ancestoral dynasty of Old JoSun) has never been under the influence of Han chinese, and the funny Han armies' armor and mask : in that time, they even didn't have metal armor. It is Old Josun who produced metal armor first during that time. The playwriter of the Jumong drama seems to intentionally distort part of history to make jumong and Goguryeo more mythical and to attract audience. Now Jumong drama is running last parts of the series and it is showing real powerful Goguryeo but the writer would hardly stop audience's complaints about the distortion of Korean history. They have 2 episodes left to show and I wonder if they show the enthronement of Yuri, the second Taewang of Goguryeo and the foundation of Baekje by OnJo and Shilla by Biryu. They're showing powerful Koguryo armies in Jumong now but they're wearing Roman armors. Also, Shilla is not founded by Biryu. Shilla was founded by my ancestor, Park Heokguhsae. Biryu built a small kingdom in current day Inchon and died of disease.
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Post by NotAHistoryBuff on Mar 5, 2007 1:51:02 GMT -5
At least its peaceful in here. I just checked another forum and man, were they fighting in there. The show is set in the b.c. ... dats way way ago. Why still fighting over whether this area was Korean land, or was taken over by the Chinese, or never taken over.. whether DJY was really of Korean heritage.... sigh!
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Post by bowflex on Mar 6, 2007 23:51:07 GMT -5
My mom read in a korean newspaper that people are going crazy in china right now over these dramas. But they are mostly mad about is the show Jumong and yeon gaesomon. They are saying that the dramas are not true at all. I think there mad that 10,000 goguryeo soldiers killing 300,000 sui soldiers are not true.
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Post by Lucy on Mar 7, 2007 15:50:48 GMT -5
I deleted recent comments of a racist nature, and the comment responding to them. No offense to "Guest," who was only responding, but it's best not to leave this ugliness up.
Lucy Freewheeling moderator (Sorry for stepping on the toes of this forum's moderator)
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Post by korean power on Mar 7, 2007 19:54:26 GMT -5
in boards of korea, sysop of boards dont delete commets well.it's because if delete it, then that proves there re no rational retortion.
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Post by korean power on Mar 7, 2007 20:08:32 GMT -5
the official history of china(âËßö) said that the returnees of the 305000 Sui army was only 2700. and 20 years after, goguryo returned 10000 chinese war prisoners to china(the official history of china ÓÐßö)
gogruryo army used guerilla tactics.i think that gogruryo army wasnt big number.main cause of chinese defeat was lack of foods. they intruded too long way to heart of gogyryo. foods was so haevy weight chinese soldiers threw away it. when chinese army was hungry,gogruryo army attack it.it was massacre.
western scholars also said that this war is the another Stalingrad .
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Post by korean power on Mar 7, 2007 23:31:46 GMT -5
i am korean.that's why i am not good at for english. you cholla slave in america.
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Post by korean power on Mar 7, 2007 23:33:54 GMT -5
geumriver wrote "idiot/bigot" this horrible words.this prove wang-gun's hatred of cholla people's mean nature.
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Post by korean power on Mar 7, 2007 23:50:44 GMT -5
" geumriver wrote the words ""idiot/bigot,human vermin"" . as you see in korea cholla people committed many outrages so they re discriminated.most americans dont know this fact but in korea cholla people re rejected in marriage also.before cholla kim,no's regime, they were rejected in company.this is absolutely not racial discrimination, even if most cholla people looks like vietnamese.as what wang-gun's say, this is hatred against cholla people's mean nature." personally i dont have racial prejudice. In my 2 years service in US army in korea as korean soldier, black people were kind.what i hate is unjustice and lie.
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Post by Ducky on Mar 8, 2007 0:07:13 GMT -5
I think you look vietnamese, you undercover "cholla slave".... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Why didn't you want to make this board "Members Only" (Other than the copywrite issues w/ the jacket people? ?) From "For Shame" thread...... Sigh. Okay, okay, I won't try to make you guys make sense any more. Just beat each other up. Try not to get too ugly, or I'll have to close the thread. And keep it localized; don't spill over onto the rest of the board. Bo Since you kicked out the nut-jobs in that thread, this board has been pretty boring.... I'm up for a totally unnecessary argument about nothing..... Ducky...
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Post by bowflex on Mar 8, 2007 0:09:38 GMT -5
There's no need to hate people for being american or korean. I'm half polish and half korean. I love America and I love Korea. There are a lot of drama shows that are not perfect because they try to make it more exciting plus even history books are not 100 percent correct on alot of events that happened. Let people talk about how the feel.....no need to discriminate and who cares what color you are......thats the problem we have today with racism
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Post by Ducky on Mar 8, 2007 0:21:07 GMT -5
There's no need to hate people for being american or korean. ........... I don't hate people who are American or Korean, my hatred is universal..... who cares what color you are........ I didn't know "cholla slaves" were a different color... What are they like green or something?
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Post by korean power on Mar 8, 2007 0:37:51 GMT -5
i dont have racial prejudice. In my 2 years service in US army in korea as korean soldier, black people were kind.what i hate is unjustice and lie. i knew many good black men in my US army service.and personally i respected their gentle and kind style.
in korea there re no racism against cholla province.even though cholla people is somwhat darker but they re mixed blood in thousand years they re much alike usual korean. the discrimination is only against the nature mind of cholla people.
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