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Post by ShawScope on Oct 7, 2006 21:59:05 GMT -5
so, is there any new info about this show on WMBC in NY/NJ area ?
and btw, is this Jang Bogo of Emperor of the Sea as a main character in this one ?
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Post by DaeMakriji on Oct 11, 2006 20:22:33 GMT -5
Right. The main character is the guy Choi, Soo-Jong from Jang-Bo-Go.
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Post by cheonson on Oct 12, 2006 21:43:26 GMT -5
[/URL] part of gilt bronze crown with Three Legged Bird Samjogo, Three legged bird, Goguryeo tomb mural Goguryeo horse rider, Goguryeo tomb mural [img src="http://img208.imagesha img208.imageshack.us/img208/1534/warriorsuit1eu0.jpg"]ck.us/img208/2034/1gv7.jpg[/IMG] Goguryeo Calvalry Heavenly blue dragon, Goguryeo tomb mural Arrows of Goguryeo Heavenly white tiger, Goguryeo tomb mural Bongwhang, mythical bird from Heaven, Goguryeo tomb mural
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Post by TheBo on Oct 13, 2006 14:43:56 GMT -5
cheonson, whereever did you get those lovely images? Thank you very much for posting them.
Bo
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Post by florel on Oct 13, 2006 18:23:04 GMT -5
Aigu... I saw 8 episodes during two days ! It's getting interesting. I wish you'll get soon this drama. Oh, guys, these are my favorite characters. Guhl Sa Bi Woo (Malgal warrior) - I did'nt realized that he was such a handsome man when he played the annoying King Sunjo. I'm hooked on him and I already forget Oon-hyuk. ;D Seol In Gui (Sue Rengui, Tang general) - In the drama, Seol In Gui is depicted as a Khitan born warrior. But AFAIK he is Han chinese ethnic in real history. Despite of this slight fictionalization, his character is very interesting and Lee Duk Hwa's acting is impeccable. Yeon Gae So Mun (military dictator of Koguryo) - Golden speechs. Very plausible and convincing characterization of Yeon Gae So Mun.
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Post by BungalowDweller on Oct 13, 2006 21:11:38 GMT -5
THIS IS TOO MUCH!!!! ;D ;D ;D I'm SO excited to know that there will be historical drama returning. Like Skinz and some others, I sincerely tried watching some of the modern dramas and have enjoyed them in the past but there is Nothing like the historical programming. When is this coming to Chicago? Some earlier postings mentioned that it would air soon. Has it aired yet?
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Post by chocopie on Oct 13, 2006 23:18:01 GMT -5
Florel,
I too have watch all 8 episodes ... just not in 2 days!! It's really pretty good. Better than Yeongaesomun ( a lot.) I really like Dae Joong Sang (Dae Jo Young's father.) Unfortunately, we won't see him much for a while. Still it will be fun watching Gae Dong (name given to Dae Jo Young by Yeon Gaesomun) struggling and finding his destiny.
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Post by cheonson on Oct 14, 2006 9:40:50 GMT -5
[quote author=florel board=other thread=1156555425 Seol In Gui (Sue Rengui, Tang general) - In the drama, Seol In Gui is depicted as a Khitan born warrior. But AFAIK he is Han chinese ethnic in real history. Despite of this slight fictionalization, his character is very interesting and Lee Duk Hwa's acting is impeccable. [/quote] Seol In-Gui is not Han descendant. He is known as a Khitan descendant in history but some Koreans claim he is Korean blood : he was a Giguryeo warrior under Yeon Gge So Moon. In real history Tang was not built by pure Han or Sui descentant . Emperor Yi Se-min of Tang is Han blood (south west Asian origin) + other North east Asian blood.
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Post by Cheonson on Oct 14, 2006 9:46:47 GMT -5
cheonson, whereever did you get those lovely images? Thank you very much for posting them. Bo glad you liked them. i have more pictures of Goguryeo. I will post more if you guys like to see. These would help you understand Goguryeo dramas more : dress, characters on the military flags and coat of arms, etc.
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Post by florel on Oct 14, 2006 12:01:39 GMT -5
[quote author=florel board=other thread=1156555425 Seol In Gui (Sue Rengui, Tang general) - In the drama, Seol In Gui is depicted as a Khitan born warrior. But AFAIK he is Han chinese ethnic in real history. Despite of this slight fictionalization, his character is very interesting and Lee Duk Hwa's acting is impeccable. Seol In-Gui is not Han descendant. He is known as a Khitan descendant in history but some Koreans claim he is Korean blood : he was a Giguryeo warrior under Yeon Gge So Moon. In real history Tang was not built by pure Han or Sui descentant . Emperor Yi Se-min of Tang is Han blood (south west Asian origin) + other North east Asian blood. [/quote] I agree on the point that the "China" is not an ethnic entity, but a cultural entity. I searched more about Seol In Gui (Xue Ren Gui). I don't know why I was thinking he would be a Han Chinese. Up to now, I didn't find any certain info about his ethnic origin except the fact that he was originated from Shanxi. So it's also possible that he was a Rouran, Tujue, Uyghurs or any heck of other nomade tribe's descendant. But, at the same time, it doesn't exclude a possibility that he would be a Han Chinese or a mixed blood. Anyway, it's undeniable fact that he was a commander of Tang Empire regardless of his origin. It's as like that the famous French royal compositor Jean-Baptiste Lully was an Italian originated naturalized French. Zinedine Zidane is also a French hero. etc. etc. My questions : 1. Is there any historical official source which says that Xue Ren Gui was a Khitan originated ? (Please don't present to me a Ya Sa - unofficial legend - source.) - Koreans' legendary version is fascinating, but it let me laugh as much as the Chinese's absurd claim on Koguryo kingdom. 2. Was Shanxi province populated by Khitan tribes during Tang period ? According to Wikipedia, Khitans lived in "today Mongolia, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, Liaoning, northern border of Shanxi and Hebei and later in Xinjiang and eastern border of Kazakhstan". 3. Is there any available English, French or German translation of Jiu Tang Shu or Xin Tang Shu ?
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Post by florel on Oct 14, 2006 12:20:47 GMT -5
BD, Glad to see you again in the forum. My greetings to your lovely daughter. Hi, Chocopie, I never saw an episode of "Yeongaesomun" (SBS). But from what I read from newspapers and on web pages, its story telling seems to be ridiculous.
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Post by sd on Oct 14, 2006 23:13:54 GMT -5
I agree on the point that the "China" is not an ethnic entity, but a cultural entity. I would have to disagree and say China is not an ethnic entity, not a cultural entity, but only a political entity.
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Post by florel on Oct 15, 2006 8:30:28 GMT -5
I agree on the point that the "China" is not an ethnic entity, but a cultural entity. I would have to disagree and say China is not an ethnic entity, not a cultural entity, but only a political entity. Dear SD, let me do precision of what I said. Not A..., BUT ... B : in this sentence formulation, B after BUT designates something positive. So I intended to say that China is a cultural entity (composed by multi ethnicities - between parentheses). I never said "China is only a political entity." Pleased read attentively the real meaning of what others said.
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Post by cheonson on Oct 15, 2006 19:35:14 GMT -5
I would have to disagree and say China is not an ethnic entity, not a cultural entity, but only a political entity. Dear SD, let me do precision of what I said. Not A..., BUT ... B : in this sentence formulation, B after BUT d esignates something positive. So I intended to say that China is a cultural entity (composed by multi ethnicities - between parentheses). I never said "China is only a political entity." Pleased read attentively the real meaning of what others said. i agree with you. As far as I know none of Chinese dynasties which are claimed to be pre-Han dynasty or post-Han have been dynasties by one pure ethnicity. Especially as for the most prominent period, Tang in Chinese history, as far as I know, the primary ruling part and citizen were Sunbi(Xianbei) tribe and various cultures from the North East tribes flourished in Tang.
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Post by sd on Oct 15, 2006 22:09:38 GMT -5
I would have to disagree and say China is not an ethnic entity, not a cultural entity, but only a political entity. Dear SD, let me do precision of what I said. Not A..., BUT ... B : in this sentence formulation, B after BUT designates something positive. So I intended to say that China is a cultural entity (composed by multi ethnicities - between parentheses). I never said "China is only a political entity." Pleased read attentively the real meaning of what others said. Hm, I think you didn't get what I mean. In any case, no need to be so prickly about it. Yes, I recognize that you said China IS a cultural entity. And that's what I disagree about. China is NOT a cultural entity. It is only a political entity. Let's put it another way. You think that China is a: ethnic entity (X) cultural entity (O) political entity (O) I think that China is a ethnic entity (X) cultural entity (X) political entity (O) Clear now? I think you're the one who should read closer.
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