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Post by Maalii on Oct 15, 2004 20:07:50 GMT -5
"OMG U DER CH4LNJE MAI OTHORITEE!!1!?". OH MY FREAKING GOD! I SITLL CAN"T GET OVER THAT. WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS SENTENCE MEAN? The best I can figure out, I think he meant "OMG you dare challenge my authority?"
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Post by ID on Oct 15, 2004 20:35:16 GMT -5
The best I can figure out, I think he meant "OMG you dare challenge my authority?" AHAHAHA. whats with the "4" in his version of: "challenge" deos this mean this "129832" can be translated to english? sorry, i needed a laugh, i just made a strong post general board. it's called: "THAT's IT"
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Post by seven stars on Oct 16, 2004 19:17:43 GMT -5
One other thing to consider is that history is written by the victor. With regard to the different emphases of SGZ and SGYY...
During and just after the "Three Kingdoms" period, history would obviously have been told with a glorious bias toward the victorious kingdom Jin (Wei).
Whether it was political or dramatic effect that motivated the differences in the SGYY, the truth may well lie somewhere in between.
On top of that, we may know the least about the exploits of those Wu kings and generals.
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Post by ID on Oct 16, 2004 19:23:19 GMT -5
During and just after the "Three Kingdoms" period, history would obviously have been told with a glorious bias toward the victorious kingdom Jin (Wei). . If it was the Jin emperors who wrote it, there wouldb't be any bias against the other kingdoms. Don't forget, it was the Sima clan who brought down Wei, and created Jin. So if anything, the bias would be against Wei. Also, if it was the Jin that wrote the history, why would they glorify Zhuge Liang {Kongming} so much, when he was the arch-rival of Sima Yi?
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Post by seven stars on Oct 25, 2004 16:12:48 GMT -5
Actually the SGYY was the one that emphasized Liu Bei and Shu, and this is the one that was written retrospectively. So if Jin were to be anti-Wei, it would have been manifested in the SGZ account. SGZ was pro Wei, as Maalii has pointed out.
At any rate, Wu obviously loses out here as we probably know the least about this kingdom.
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Post by Maalii on Oct 25, 2004 18:15:13 GMT -5
Actually the SGYY was the one that emphasized Liu Bei and Shu, and this is the one that was written retrospectively. So if Jin were to be anti-Wei, it would have been manifested in the SGZ account. SGZ was pro Wei, as Maalii has pointed out. At any rate, Wu obviously loses out here as we probably know the least about this kingdom. Yeah, Wu does lose out in this, which is a shame. There are some other interesting details regarding the SGZ author, Chen Shou. Chen Shou was actually the son of a Shu officer who accompanied Kongming on some of the northern campaigns. I don't know if this is historical or not, but in the novel Chen Shou's father is executed by Kongming for disobeying orders (along with Wei Yan, who is spared) and leading his troops into an ambush.
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